In your face

[Jugulator]

I've got another suggestion. Please give some feedback.

• On 2 hexes :
  50% chance to miss per each bullet when bursting
  25% chance to miss for aimed shots
  No penalty for unaimed shots
  
  
• 1 hex :
  80% chance to miss/bullet when bursting
  55% chance to miss fo aimed shots
  30% chance to miss for unaimed shots
  
  (I just increased everything by 30%)

[Sperber]

I don''t like this chance to miss for each bullet idea.

As I see it you block weapons or knock guns aside because they are in your melee reach.
So I think 50% chance to miss for everything 1 (and maybe 2) hexes away is fine.
Bursts should either miss completely or hit, but not partly hit.

[jacky]

fix 50% and it is fine. melee was, are and will be trolls

[Jugulator]

fix 50% and it is fine. melee was, are and will be trolls

Come on ! Even with 100% chance to miss on 1 hex, melee is still  "troll" because you can just flee like Ed Wood said (if you don't have heavy handed). I think we all have understood your opinion, let's hear what other people and Kilgore think.

[Strike]

I like your suggestion Jugulator, but I also like to have old 50% IYF back.

[Ed Wood]

just ignor Jacky he high on avanger but to be honest its realy would be OP but i dont mined melee needs to be op in close combat

[jacky]

yes op.

i posted you troll builds. it wsa a time on 2238 when troll were able to kill fully tank with fuckign hh spam.
same 10% protection will allow bluesuit with fast shoot to punch to death solo enclave soldier. i dont think so it will work.
50% is fine and if you want to make ur melee to be stronger than bg burster than you are funny.

I posted you build which can be fucking op, please correct me if i am wrong

300% sneak, silent running, silent death, ac bonus perks, better critiac, in your face, heavy handed, jinxed.

sneaker will let you to run close to bg and when he will spot you you will use you jinxed+ac troll bonus to run 1hex to him to punch him to death while IYF will protect you ass from 1hex burst

[drot]

i posted you troll builds.

Post all the builds you want, your opinion is irrelevant here since you don't play with CC builds.

[Uftak]

yes op.

i posted you troll builds. it wsa a time on 2238 when troll were able to kill fully tank with fuckign hh spam.
same 10% protection will allow bluesuit with fast shoot to punch to death solo enclave soldier. i dont think so it will work.
50% is fine and if you want to make ur melee to be stronger than bg burster than you are funny.

I posted you build which can be fucking op, please correct me if i am wrong

300% sneak, silent running, silent death, ac bonus perks, better critiac, in your face, heavy handed, jinxed.

sneaker will let you to run close to bg and when he will spot you you will use you jinxed+ac troll bonus to run 1hex to him to punch him to death while IYF will protect you ass from 1hex burst

In your face would not change a shit in this build tbh.

[ElSlayer]

50% is fine and if you want to make ur melee to be stronger than bg burster than you are funny.

Any arguments on why should bg burster be stronger than melee?

[Ed Wood]

i would like to hear more creative ideas!

[Jugulator]

i would like to hear more creative ideas!

Yeah, don't be shy. We need more suggestions an opinions.

[sogabe]

As a silent death melee PKer, I hate someone with IYF more than bursters.

[Strike]

As a silent death melee PKer, I hate someone with IYF more than bursters.

Yeah? and I like to beat up some sneak
This is just suggestion.

I like both Jinxed and IYF.

[sogabe]

As a silent death melee PKer, I hate someone with IYF more than bursters.

Yeah? and I like to beat up some sneak
This is just suggestion.

I like both Jinxed and IYF.

Yep. I look at it as more of a anti-close combat defensive perk..also very effective in close combat pve against aliens, deathclaws etc. You can beat deathclaws naked very easily. I think the perk is fine as is.