PvE .223 Pistol sneaky spammer to roam across Wasteland?

[Wichura]

I've never done a sneaker before, but this is what I've calculated:


Not sure if Ghost perk combined with 300% of Sneak will raise it above 300% and if it's worth taking at all. Also I'm not sure about SPECIAL, 2 ST and 8 PE? I have now 1 LK lazor rifle spammer and sometimes it happens weapon explodes, critical misses tend to happen as well. Nothing really annoying though. All for 2 AP shots without not-that-easy-to-get -AP weapon. I missed that on FOnline2.
I forgot the Educated support perk in the beginning, if I can afford books then I'll get that one as soon as possible.
Fast Shot + One Hander + Living Anatomy = 15 flat damage, woohoo!
Swap Action Boys to Lifegivers? I play mostly TB, chasing some bandits and raping moo-mooz in a violent manner. Also I don't have much time to level a character up to insane three-digit levels, therefore 8 IN. PvP doesn't bother me much, I'd try to not being spotted and just pass through.

Thoughts?

[Rinzler]

Drop the Ghost perk and take something useful, like MRD. Drop str to 1 and take small frame instead of one hander, drop ag to 9 and put 2 points into luck. This will stop your gun exploding on you and the left over point put PE to 9. SG up to 241, use jet, cigs, nuka and use 14mm pistol instead of 223.

[Mad Matt]

Drop the Ghost perk and take something useful, like MRD. Drop str to 1 and take small frame instead of one hander, drop ag to 9 and put 2 points into luck. This will stop your gun exploding on you and the left over point put PE to 9. SG up to 241, use jet, cigs, nuka and use 14mm pistol instead of 223.

Living Anatomy wouldn't be better choice than MRD? It adds 5 more dmg.

[Rinzler]

He already has that but if he didn't then it would be for spammer.

[Mad Matt]

Damn sorry, I missed it 

Btw. wouldn't be better make it critical sniper/crippler?

[Rinzler]

Well he doesn't want to do too much levelling and is only playing PVE. To be honest a sneaker is a bad idea entirely for TB PVE, a better idea wouid be to make a high sequence tank build.

[Wichura]

I'm not asking about effective teh best TB build, but thanks anyway.
Ghost perk isn't worth taking then? How's the sneak working here? Is it possible to raise it above 300%? I've had a sneaker on 2238 for the purpose of lockers hunting (300% Sneak and some decent lockpick), quite often creatures encountered were just ignoring this char as they couldn't spot him. What about weight penalties?
MRD gives +2 per bullet, One Hander gives +5 per attack. Since 14mm/.223 Pistols are not burst weapons, I find it more useful to have One Hander in this case. Plus it gives +20% chance to hit, so it balances low ST somehow.
I will end up with 1 ST, 9 AG and 3 LK then, is that OK to avoid critical misses and shit?

And personally I hate to play snipers. They are so unpredictable.

[Koniko]

Just my personal version of build I find the most reliable.. :

[Wichura]

How about this?


I'm still not sure about that 3 LK, looks funny. It used to be either 1, 6 or 10, once and for all, amen.

[Koniko]

How about this?


I'm still not sure about that 3 LK, looks funny. It used to be either 1, 6 or 10, once and for all, amen.

Decent build. Should handle some NPCs if using neat .223 or P90.

[Mad Matt]

One Hander doesn't give any dmg bonus, Seki told me about it. Only Fast Shot gives flat 5 dmg bonus.

[Wichura]

I'm confused now, however I can't really test it yet.

[Mad Matt]

I was confused too, I think Seki wrote me answer about it somewhere in question and answers thread.


It's not what I meant earlier, but still:

http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=3481.msg24133#msg24133

[Wichura]

Yeah, I've found that, but then I looked into dates when it's all been posted.

I will need to make two chars, one with and another without One Hander trait, find some testing field and perform couple of tests.

[Koniko]

I've made a little test and recorded video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1O8ShbHO-c&feature=youtu.be

Edit wait for YT to render 1080p

No changes in damage.