Give grenades damage modifiers.

[blasma]

While all ammo types from guns have damage modifiers, grenades do not. That's one of the causes for the uselessness of grenades. Not something like 2/1 but instead 5/7. Otherwise, giving a penetrate perk is flat out useless because that will only give it a +5-10 damage at maximum.

[BB.]

+1

Grenades are useless now because of too low damage. They could enrich PvP if were stronger (but not too strong).

[Strike]

Damage modifier or increased damage for grenades, something need to be done.

[Sperber]

The Heave Ho! perks will be merged into one after the wipe so grenadier builds will have 1 more perk to choose.
With Fast Shot, 2x BRD, MRD and Living Anatomy you get a decent damage output against groups.

I'd suggest to make the Demolition Expert perk work with grenades though.

[Strike]

I'd suggest to make the Demolition Expert perk work with grenades though.

+1

Like Pyromaniac perk effect fire based weapons, Demolition Expert would effect explosives (Grenades, Dynamite and Plastic Explosives)

[Wind_Drift]

Again, throwing knives get no love.

Doesn't detract from the good suggestion, though.

[BB.]

Demolition Expert would effect explosives (Grenades, Dynamite and Plastic Explosives)

It's a support perk. As for dymanite and c4 then - no.

Again, throwing knives get no love.

Little offtopic. I like them, but you need a special build to use them properly which is weaker than a typical sneaker/sniper build anyway. So it's pretty pointless. If you want it for some fun it's better to invest some skill points into your sniper.

[Sperber]

It's a support perk.

And grenadiers are a support role.
They'd still be weaker than other pvp builds and only worth playing in a team.
Also throwing weapons don't have crafting bonuses, so it's perfectly fair, in my opinion.

[BB.]

By saying it's a support perk I mean that you don't need a specialized build to take it. I'm cool with buffed grenadies for everyone, but c4 is already strong enough. Including bonus to it in the perk would just buff c4. That's why I said no for that part.

[Strike]

I'm cool with buffed grenadies for everyone, but c4 is already strong enough. Including bonus to it in the perk would just buff c4. That's why I said no for that part.

Demolition Expert already increase damage for C4 and Dynamite, what I did mean was that it should also effect grenades. No need buff C4 or Dynamite.

[c_hieter]

sorry for being a retard on these types of builds, but i will flap my jaws anyway.
c4 and dynamite usage are suicide tactics. (i think)
grenadiers try to not die. (i know)
i could see a -ap or extended range, critical chance or accuracy modifier on a crafted grenade.
being a crafter myself, i would have to build a shit load of grenades to get a pile with the special modifiers that folks would want to buy.
just my 2 cents of jaw flapping.   

[BB.]

Demolition Expert already increase damage for C4 and Dynamite, what I did mean was that it should also effect grenades. No need buff C4 or Dynamite.

Ah, right.

c4 and dynamite usage are suicide tactics. (i think)
grenadiers try to not die. (i know)

Nope. C4 has a great meaning in bigger PvP fights (it can prevent your 5-player group from being just rushed and smashed by 8-player group).
Nope. Sneak grenadiers are (well, were) a cool support for grouped enemies.

[jacky]

C4 is bullshit. I would like to remove it from the game or add possiblity to shoot it from range. It is just IED in fo

[triqua]

if you cant rush enemies position due to some c4 that may lay on the ground.. just throw some c4 by yourself in that direction at deactivate the enemies' c4.. Oo where is the problem?

[Gimper]

C4 is bullshit. I would like to remove it from the game or add possiblity to shoot it from range. It is just IED in fo

+1 for remove. I have some ideas for a suggestion...