Finesse

[Kaaon]

I'm talking about finesse here.. If you take -1str, there is a weapon penalty, so -20% chance to hit. It DOES have something to do with cripplers, and any build for that matter. -1 stat point can be a huge loss for certain characters.

you can take 1 point from LK and put it to ST = same just with more crit chance.. done .. bad idea
then it would be trait for bursters not for cripplers

[Gimper]

So? Let bursters take it. Even more of a variety then.

[Kaaon]

So? Let bursters take it. Even more of a variety then.

lets give them +10 to crit chance to be OP ? 

[Sperber]

You could make it similar to Fast Shot:

- +10% crit chance
- can't attack unaimed

So bursters and TB spammers don't work with Finesse.
You still have the problem with eye-shooters then,
but maybe aiming for the eyes is too easy?

[Kaaon]

- can't attack unaimed

it was probably my last suggestion posted here..
three good ideas in this topic :
- add +5 to crit roll
- increase crit chance to +15
- decrease +DR from 30 to 20

[Gimper]

lets give them +10 to crit chance to be OP ? 

OK so make not work with bursts...

it was probably my last suggestion posted here..
three good ideas in this topic :
- add +5 to crit roll
- increase crit chance to +15
- decrease +DR from 30 to 20

I'm not saying this is a bad idea, but it will still be nearly useless against tanks, and tanks are THE most common PvP builds.

[triqua]

i tried many times killing tanks with ew/sg weapons. you need to get many knockdowns to have a chance. you cant start a fight with good chances in 1v1 vs a tank.

it is more a support build for team actions for seeing enemies and try to disarm//ko them ( typical crowd control).

-str wont help as you are already on 1 str? am i thinking wrong?

+1 to sekis suggestions but need some testing. i think finesse could become to strong with lowering dr to 20.

question:  those additional dr for the target does not count upon bypass right?

[Strike]

- can't attack unaimed

+1 for this, very good one suggestion. Opposite effect from Fast Shot trait, this trait is must have for snipers then. And bursters can't use this

There is also some problems. This is harder for new characters to start, and what would happen if character choose both Fast Shot+Finesse traits?

- decrease +DR from 30 to 20

+20-25 DR should be fine.

[Gimper]

what would happen if character choose both Fast Shot+Finesse traits?

This...