November 18, 2017, 03:41:06 pm
Username:

Password:

Topic: Season 3 Thoughts  (Read 3151 times)

Daivana

  • Supporter
  • Posts: 5
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2017, 10:12:31 pm »
My thoughts.
Came back to play this game after two or more years pause.
Noticed that I'm not able to steal from players (no bomb drops in inventory)
No loot drop.

I just played few days now and the longer I play the less I want to play it, the only thing that keeps me is the new stuff that I have to experience.
Mostly I'm disappointed about the no loot drop.
There was something magical in the loot drop. with that the game was different, more challenging.

I understand that not many people play this game and the donations are not much so I think now this game is more friendly to new players and this easy mode will keep them playing.

I don't want to sound rude, I really love this game and have big respect to the developers and admins.


Rinzler

  • Posts: 107
  • Power-saver mode
    • View Profile
    • UFAV Forum
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #91 on: November 06, 2017, 10:14:59 am »
I completely disagree that this session is friendlier to new players, I realise that this was probably the intention but I don't think the current set up keeps people interested whether they are a new player or time-served PvP ape. I no longer play but when I started out I found the fact that I could lose everything so easily a motivator rather than a deterrent (after the initial rages and adjustment of expectations, of course). Last session I was farming and crafting every spare moment I had, this session I felt comfortable with 3 sets of gear for fights that rarely happened.

And in the long void between fights, what can you do?

*Quests - Sure, if you want.
*Dungeons - Just need a small team who don't mind burning 1000s of ammo for a unique M60
*Farm Locations - Same again, gear is slightly better but you can still get better stuff on caravan.
*Crafting - You could invest your time gathering materials for the chance of crafting some statted gear, or you could just do caravan.

When I started out this was a very different game to what it has become - there were fights large and small everywhere  and that, in my opinion was what kept the game alive. Taking your crafted gear to an unguarded town to barter and running into another player - fighting on a level playing field. But then for some reason we needed militia to guard the unguarded towns and that was the end of that, unless you call one autist from the controlling faction camping the town in bluesuit PvP.

And then the removal of hexing, I don't understand it unless the intention was to make the game harder and less accessible to a solo player. I know, naming no names - they all know who they are, that it was abused with hexbots etc but hexing was one thing could even the odds in any fight whether PvP or PvE and now you absolutely must have a team behind you in order to do anything that isn't caravan and given that a majority of players in the server were not part of the larger PvP factions I think it's pretty obvious what killed the server.

« Last Edit: November 06, 2017, 10:20:21 am by Rinzler »

2238mudcrab

  • Posts: 31
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #92 on: November 14, 2017, 03:21:28 am »
The only thing that always differentiated FOnline from other MMOs was the no-bullshit-permadeath-full-loot-wasteland-is-harsh kind of deal. The game was always shitter than other MMOs on the market but now it's shitter and it lost its best feature. Why would I want to play subar FOnline PvE if I can play any other MMO and get 10 times better experience? The argument that it helps new players is flawed because the game doesn't offer anything that could compete with other MMOs. Earlier, the noobs would play, die a few times, get frustrated and leave or realise that they enjoy the thrill of open PvP and stay. Now, they play for a while, realise the game offers nothing and leave quietly.

Let's face it, people play FOnline because they were dropped right after birth and they enjoy ruining someone else's day. Killing a player and ruining his progress, blowing yourself up in NCR or stealing from the noobs were the best parts of the game. Griefing was always the bread and butter of FOnline. It's kinda ironic that this change comes from the person that ran the most ruthless gang during the times of 2238 server. I'm not even gonna comment on the fact of forum censorhip, in the last days of 2238, Kilgore was the most vocal about the moderators that deleted posts criticizing the game. I guess the power corrupts.  :facepalm

Mad Matt

  • Posts: 1751
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #93 on: November 14, 2017, 06:41:54 pm »
Or with time you learn few things.
GUN FOR HIRE


Wichura

  • Posts: 200
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #94 on: November 14, 2017, 07:00:11 pm »
> making a free to play game for 150 players worldwide in peak hours
> being corrupted by "power"


Urukhai

  • Posts: 251
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #95 on: November 15, 2017, 03:06:57 pm »
Wichura's posts are just epic.  ;D
You make my day bro !

If you don't like the server and you want to do something else, maybe you are up for something better ? Any ideas ? Does someone want to start learning C++ at least ? Create his own FOnline with Blackjack and Hookers ?

No one would do it. So why would the DEVs do it for you?

In my humble opinion, those who grew up on 2238 and it's "harshness", learned how to survive, bypassed the rules and abused the game in order to get an advantage (Hinkley looting/tobacco farm/ SE farm etc.). Little did they knew, that they were actually destroying the game since the beginning. If a DEV spends more time fixing abuses and banhammerstriking for duallog/festrelog rather than implementing more ideas, no wonder that we end up here.

Anyway, opinions are devided and I wish to all those who liked the changes to enjoy the game and keep the community up and for those who disliked them either to adapt or to do something else.

« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 04:33:16 pm by Urukhai »

Henry

  • Wiki Administrator
  • Global Moderator
  • Posts: 772
  • Gravity is just a theory. Try Density.
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #96 on: November 15, 2017, 03:11:34 pm »
Thank you, Urukhai! Well said. A bunch of us are enjoying the game for years and years, and even more now since the changes. Want something else? Go build it yourself.

c_hieter

  • Supporter
  • Posts: 227
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2017, 03:08:40 am »
the one good thing that a wipe does, is make people change the way they play the game.
new rules/strategies/tactics and bitches.
is the cup half full or half empty.
figure out a way to fill it up.
change up your game play.
find a way to find others stashes, if stealing is your thing.
kill everything that moves, or follow them.
and then kill them.
whatever floats your boat and fills your glass.
but have fun doing it.

POWERPUFF

  • Supporter
  • Posts: 97
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2017, 10:48:20 am »
Uruk, you serious?

So if I decide to run a game by myself and people who join it and play should not report bugs if they find any but rather keep playing so I can add more and more stuff unaware of current broken shit?

Great thinking there bud!

And why would dev do anything for us? This is not one-sided favor. Devs are running this for us, improving and we are playing it, donating, suggesting, reporting bugs.

One side cannot live without the other one, there goes single players mate.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 11:03:40 am by POWERPUFF »
Armageddon Army going for ya

Programmer

  • Posts: 105
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2017, 12:10:30 pm »
They don't do anything because there aren't news, updates and forum activity. People have already said some things are broken and should be fixed but nothing happen. The game still is broken and players counter is low because FOnline Reloaded exhausted all possibilities. Players are sad, bored, angry and wait for what? For wipe with reverted changes in next 3 years.

BTW, maybe merge these topics into current.
https://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=13020.msg106894#new
https://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=13022.0

Pieskov

  • Posts: 70
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #100 on: Yesterday at 12:19:23 am »
> making a free to play game for 150 players worldwide in peak hours

50 after S3 :)

Wichura's posts are just epic.  ;D

Nah, its just random offtop and thrashtalk from person, that have literally nothing to say, but NEED the attention like oxygen

They don't do anything because there aren't news, updates and forum activity. People have already said some things are broken and should be fixed but nothing happen. The game still is broken and players counter is low because FOnline Reloaded exhausted all possibilities. Players are sad, bored, angry and wait for what? For wipe with reverted changes in next 3 years.

+1
Fixing bugs, broken mechanics, listening to community, trying to improve the game, that was broken by devs ignorance and unpreparedness to incoming changes? Naaaaaaaaah.
Ignoring, delete and move any negative response to troll subforums, taunt and laugh at community members that not agree with shitty, and stupid decision making that ruined the game? Hell fucking yeah baby!

xD
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 12:26:30 am by Pieskov »

Urukhai

  • Posts: 251
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #101 on: Yesterday at 09:49:57 am »
@POWERPUFF

Yes bud I am serious. I helped before this game. Did some maps back in 2016 and 2014. Example: https://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=5341.0. It was asked by the players. I did it, posted screens, people loved it and it was promised to be added after wipe, but I still haven't seen it during this season nor in the season 2. The map was done 3 years ago! Haha. And this only one example amongst many others.

What I meant buddy is that the game might be broken, but people are broken in the first place. If you know that there is an exploit, why would you abuse it?
Every time a read a suggestion "add this, add  that", 95% of answers are like "can be abused".
This is why I said that if you want to see changes, do it yourself.

@Programmer

People are disappointed for 3 main reasons: No hexing, No Looting, No old school TC. This is enough to ruin the PvP experience. And those who were mainly doing pvp are lost now. They can blame DEVs, they can blame the community, they can blame the game, in the end it won't change anything. (as my example of mapping for the community)
If the DEVs are not fixing bugs, maybe they have no time, maybe they don't know how to fix them.   

@Pieskov

I know that Wichura's second nickname is "Wichuja" (given by the community :D)
But this guys is just hilarious. I never enjoyed reading one's posts as I do enjoy reading his.

If any of you are skilled in programming or have some ideas, regroup, PM me. Let's talk about this.

Wichura

  • Posts: 200
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #102 on: Yesterday at 09:55:05 am »
> 50 players, ded gaem, players are leaving, devs are gay, AIDS is being spread
> seeking for attention among such crowd


Programmer

  • Posts: 105
    • View Profile
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #103 on: Yesterday at 10:55:07 am »
@Programmer

People are disappointed for 3 main reasons: No hexing, No Looting, No old school TC. This is enough to ruin the PvP experience. And those who were mainly doing pvp are lost now. They can blame DEVs, they can blame the community, they can blame the game, in the end it won't change anything. (as my example of mapping for the community)
If the DEVs are not fixing bugs, maybe they have no time, maybe they don't know how to fix them.   

There is one more reason why players are disappointed: nerfed quests/PvE activities and no news/updates. All these issues make Reloaded burnt out. I don't want to blame players or developers but trolls, lazy and blind people enjoy current situation.

Rinzler

  • Posts: 107
  • Power-saver mode
    • View Profile
    • UFAV Forum
Re: Season 3 Thoughts
« Reply #104 on: Yesterday at 11:45:05 am »
Maybe the eventual blessing in disguise to come out of this will be that people might actually give Aftertimes a chance when it eventually returns instead of not playing reloaded and hanging around the forum crying about wipe.

Well, now we've had the legendary wipe and it should be out of everybody's system now, I know some people have problem-solved by playing FOnline2 so maybe we can all make the leap to giving new servers a chance too.