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Topic: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore  (Read 4418 times)

Imrin

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Problem: Private mines provide far more HQ ore than anything else. Although not necessarily a balance issue initially, this means that HQ ore is commonplace and, therefore, so are items derivative of HQ ore. This is the chief contributor to the use of Good Metal Parts, Extended Cap. Batteries, and whatever else is being used to make absurd amounts of caps. This also means that regular ore and minerals are rarer than HQ ore and minerals while the reverse should be true.

Steps to recreate:
1. Obtain a private mine.
2. Either mine resources manually or use slaves to do it.
3. Observe as gathered resources are mostly HQ ore. The very low amount of regular ore and minerals reduces the ability to craft PvP gear, which implicitly discourages it while the focus of this server is on PvP.

Solution: Increase the frequency of normal ore and mineral nodes in private mines, reduce the frequency of HQ ore and slightly reduce the frequency of HQ minerals.

raizhi

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2013, 05:53:12 am »
or you could reduce the rates altogether, and then go to a guarded mine for unlimited normal ore?

OdijSuppi

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2013, 10:13:42 am »
I can't confirm this. For me the ressource gain is quite balanced. If anything then I would say I got to much HQ Minerals. But in the end it's really balanced for me. Maybe it depends on how frequently you mine ressources, I don't know.
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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2013, 10:23:41 am »
I agree that private mines could use some changes.

Neuromancer

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 07:40:52 am »
I agree that private mines could use some changes.
Yea, slaves on jet should be running!


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mrx

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2013, 09:00:53 pm »
79% HQ iron ore
17% HQ minerals
4% iron ore
0% minerals


OdijSuppi

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2013, 09:53:19 pm »
Let me guess, slave mining?
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mrx

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 09:28:25 am »
79% HQ iron ore
17% HQ minerals
4% iron ore
0% minerals

It's random and not even close to what you wrote.
One of "spawns" I collected from my mines:

And it's never the same, I even had more normal minerals then iron once.
:facepalm

mrx

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2013, 04:03:40 pm »
So mby it is encoded in specific mine when it is randomly generated. Because every day they gather the same percentage of those resources.

It would mean that you can get better or worse mine, and it is random.

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2013, 04:08:52 pm »
Show me 2 mines in real world which gives same ammount of resources

krausser666

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2013, 06:46:32 pm »
Well, sometimes my slaves give over 1000 of casual ores, and like 300-500 HQ ores, sometimes they give a 1000 of HQ Ores, and only 300-500 of normal ones. It's balanced for me, so I dunno what's the problem.

mrx

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2013, 09:15:49 pm »
Just bought new mine and resources seems to be pretty balanced now.

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Re: [Balance] Private mine resources strongly slated in favor of HQ ore
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2013, 09:47:44 am »

I don't think that need more to say