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Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« on: March 31, 2016, 08:21:23 am »
Hi there! I'm currently working on an lsw crit build and I wanted a little advice. This may be quite the failure, but I've done my research and here's what I have so far...

5 ST (Adrenaline rush)
8 PE (Beer, psycho, cigs = 5 PE. Max range w/ LSW)
10 EN (Duh)
1 CH (^)
2 IN (Just so I can get all the perks I need.)
9 AG (Nuka, baby.)
6 LK (This is a burster, not a sniper. No need for 10 luck, right?)

Traits: Small frame, fast shot (May go bonehead and lower luck to 5...)

Perks:

3 - Adrenaline rush
6 - More crits
9 - Even more crits
12 - Even tougher
15 - Hit the gaps
18 - Lifegiver
21 - Lifegiver+
26 - BRoF

One question I had was: Is better crits good for a burster? I figured it could help, but I think the cons outweigh the pros for that one.

So uhm... yeah! That's the build I have so far. I'd love some feedback and suggestions so that I don't derp up my build once I reroll.

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Re: Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2016, 08:51:25 am »
If you want to be a CRIT burster ofcourse you need 10 luck

squshy crit burster :
S 1
P 7
E 10
C 1
I 2
A 10
L 10

traits small frame and fast shot
perks : more critical,even more critical,better criticals,lifegiver,lifegiver + , bonus rate of fire , bonus ranged damage ,more ranged damage (not necessarily in that order )
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Re: Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2016, 08:52:25 am »
Good build. One question though, what the hell is the purpose of hit the gaps in a big guns build? kek

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Re: Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 09:35:50 am »
http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/wiki/index.php?title=Hit_the_Gaps

Works with all kind of attacks (melee, throwing, guns - both single shot and bursts)

deducts 50% from critical modifiers its used by crit bursters that often use an Avenger
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Re: Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2016, 10:06:47 am »
http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/wiki/index.php?title=Hit_the_Gaps

Works with all kind of attacks (melee, throwing, guns - both single shot and bursts)

deducts 50% from critical modifiers its used by crit bursters that often use an Avenger

I know this, but don't you need 150% close combat skill for this perk?

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Re: Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 05:45:02 pm »
If you want to be a CRIT burster ofcourse you need 10 luck

squshy crit burster :
S 1
P 7
E 10
C 1
I 2
A 10
L 10


traits small frame and fast shot
perks : more critical,even more critical,better criticals,lifegiver,lifegiver + , bonus rate of fire , bonus ranged damage ,more ranged damage (not necessarily in that order )

Why is 10 luck required? From my understanding 10 luck only truly benefits w/ aimed shots, and I don't see too bad much of a difference between 21% crit chance and 25%. I know w/ aimed it's much more but torso... not so much? Also, is better criticals really needed for this? I'm not meaning to spurn your suggestions, I'm just curious about how this all works y'know?



http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/wiki/index.php?title=Hit_the_Gaps

Works with all kind of attacks (melee, throwing, guns - both single shot and bursts)

deducts 50% from critical modifiers its used by crit bursters that often use an Avenger

I know this, but don't you need 150% close combat skill for this perk?
You do. I managed to get that by level 15 w/ the 2 intelligence, so that worked out.

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Re: Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2016, 05:52:30 pm »
My alt, I don't like takin' drugs but you can lower AG by one and then add up for PE.

Imo 5 ST is simply a waste of 4 specials just if you want to take adrenaline rush, but that's of course your choice.
2 INT needed cause otherwise you won't have enough SP to get 150% unarmed before level 30, so perk will be lost.

As I said that's the build I use, if you want it to be a bit different - modify it.
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Re: Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2016, 01:43:57 am »
If you're going to be critting all the time, why wouldn't you want Better Criticals?

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Re: Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2016, 02:25:02 pm »
If you're going to be critting all the time, why wouldn't you want Better Criticals?

Cause if you check crit table, you may see that theres only 1 crit possibility for unaimed attack : dmg x 1.5.
So better crit is totaly useless in that case

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Re: Suggestions for LSW Crit Build
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2016, 02:31:08 pm »
Cause if you check crit table, you may see that theres only 1 crit possibility for unaimed attack : dmg x 1.5.
So better crit is totaly useless in that case
wrong,
1-70 roll is 1,5x dmg
71+ roll is 2x dmg

without better crit your crits deal 1,6x dmg in average (20% for 2x dmg, 80% for 1,5x dmg)
with better crit your crits deal 1,7x dmg in average (40% for 2x dmg, 60% for 1,5x dmg)

in other words..
it will sometimes help you to pass roll over 70 for x2 crit dmg.. so will increase damage a bit of every like 5th burst, result will be too random :/
its better to take Hit The Gaps for +5% crit chance (CA crit mod is 10 / 2 = 5) for more reliable crit damage
and if you take both HtG and BC then you spend too much perks resulting in being too paper, thats why most of people decide between better crit and htg
Grizzan's build is good just take Bonehead instead of Bloody Mess
« Last Edit: July 30, 2016, 02:33:37 pm by Seki »