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General => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: definitely not a Stribe on September 19, 2013, 09:40:11 pm

Title: FML GM raped my base
Post by: definitely not a Stribe on September 19, 2013, 09:40:11 pm
never play this shit.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Kilgore on September 19, 2013, 09:46:33 pm
This is so funny that I'll leave it here for some time, just to show all of you an example of idiocy I have to deal with every day.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Knife_cz on September 19, 2013, 09:51:54 pm
Saw his picture of him with Vertibird - which is now appareantly gone
But you're a coolguy Kilgore, so I strongly doubt you would do such thing (You'd leave a cookie atleast :-) )

So. What is the story?
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Kilgore on September 19, 2013, 09:56:35 pm
The story is that he got his base raped and came to the conclusion that me or cubik2k raped it. First I couldn't believe that someone could come up with such ridiculous stuff, but it looks like human stupidity is infinite.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Headhunter on September 19, 2013, 09:58:20 pm
We left something in front of entrance. Don't be mad bro...
Next time buy some mercenaries  :-* :-*
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Nice_Boat on September 19, 2013, 10:04:25 pm
We left something in front of entrance. Don't be mad bro...
Next time buy some mercenaries  :-* :-*

B-b-but he s-s-said it was Kilgore. I'm s-s-sure he wouldn't jump to c-c-conclusions j-j-just like that.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: SporePlants on September 19, 2013, 10:06:46 pm
We left something in front of entrance. Don't be mad bro...
Next time buy some mercenaries  :-* :-*
What all did you guys get?
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Headhunter on September 19, 2013, 10:08:51 pm
A lot of cool shit dude...  ;)
And Stribe, make something more for us!
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Grizzan on September 19, 2013, 10:13:03 pm
A lot of cool shit dude...  ;)
And Stribe, make something more for us!
prove that you raped fettel, or gtfo you pathetic noob

also, ive been told that kilgore abused his powers on irc to kick mysterious gavor, but gavor reported kilgore to observator and everything is okay now :)
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Hippie on September 19, 2013, 10:16:42 pm
Wait... How did you guys get in his base in the first place?
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Kilgore on September 19, 2013, 10:21:24 pm
They must have been invited, followed him there or tagged when buying base.

Not surprising when you take into account the fact that they have parked vertibird in the desert next to NCR :)
http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=740.0
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Headhunter on September 19, 2013, 10:24:45 pm
 This is fuckin MAGIC! Bunkers are not safe by now!!! And quite lot of stuff already is out there on the wasteland. All your base are belong to us! (http://i41.tinypic.com/hrahwl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/J2NVOXA.jpg)
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Nark on September 19, 2013, 10:28:34 pm
Yo Stribe, ever considered that the same guy who had access to where your Vertibird is (what I assume to be the same base that got raped) and "lost" it (HEH) might have fucked you over by bringing people to said base?
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Headhunter on September 19, 2013, 10:38:34 pm
 Almost 2h were spent during piliging... Don't be a nagger. Oh and Stribe would recognize that we do that, just by the post about "gift"
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: baskila on September 19, 2013, 10:59:25 pm
Stribe sorry man but loosing vertibird and getting your base raped doesn't sound like coincidence.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: T-888 on September 19, 2013, 11:11:22 pm
Nessy got raped, her ass was literally plugged... the most horrid fact is that after the incident she blacked it out, hardly comprehending the situation.

Poor thing, I pity you.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on September 19, 2013, 11:30:25 pm
No stribe noooo

that's why solo is the way to go :P

cause I don't have to worry about getting raped or something.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: paco on September 19, 2013, 11:39:26 pm
toasting in epic bread
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Hodor on September 20, 2013, 02:50:25 am
I know Stribe didn't react very well and raged with critical logic fail, BUT...

In terms of game design for tagging and baseraping....
Is all the drama/entertainment worth the lost players?

I don't think he is coming back, especially with all the gloating and snarky comments pouring gasoline onto the fire.

This kind of thing will happen again and again.
The community is already small and fragile, every lost player is significant.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: SporePlants on September 20, 2013, 02:57:07 am
Is all the drama and entertainment worth the lost players from baserape? I don't think stribe is coming back after the gloating and snarky comments.
If someone quits after a baserape, then this game was likely never for them. I've been baseraped and I came back from it.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Kilgore on September 20, 2013, 06:51:36 am
I know Stribe didn't react very well and raged with critical logic fail, BUT...

In terms of game design for tagging and baseraping....
Is all the drama/entertainment worth the lost players?

I don't think he is coming back, especially with all the gloating and snarky comments pouring gasoline onto the fire.

This kind of thing will happen again and again.
The community is already small and fragile, every lost player is significant.
You should ask yourself whether you want me to work on the game and help players facing problems/bugs in game, or waste all that time on morons like the guy accusing me of base rape and starting the ridiculous shitstorm.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: jacky on September 20, 2013, 07:31:59 am
kilgore, dont go this way. Lexx did and you seen what happen. dont insult stupid players. leave it to players ;D
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Perteks on September 20, 2013, 08:06:24 am
(http://www.plognark.com/Art/Sketches/Blogsketches/2008/thestupiditburns.jpg)
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Kaskader on September 20, 2013, 08:50:27 am
I like topics like this. Please post more raped bases!
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Hodor on September 20, 2013, 09:09:59 am
I know Stribe didn't react very well and raged with critical logic fail, BUT...

In terms of game design for tagging and baseraping....
Is all the drama/entertainment worth the lost players?

I don't think he is coming back, especially with all the gloating and snarky comments pouring gasoline onto the fire.

This kind of thing will happen again and again.
The community is already small and fragile, every lost player is significant.
You should ask yourself whether you want me to work on the game and help players facing problems/bugs in game, or waste all that time on morons like the guy accusing me of base rape and starting the ridiculous shitstorm.

Stribe was completely wrong to accuse a dev of such ridiculous things without solid evidence. I do not support his irresponsible and damaging behavior in any way, and that's that.

According to him the circumstances were very unusual, unlike previous baserapes he had suffered. He suspects a bug/glitch/exploit or even abuse of power because he was very careful.

If anyone has a list of legitimate and plausible explanations of what happened to his base, the rest of the community can feel safer about their bases. We can avoid this kind of counterproductive drama in the future.

Edit: other than the possible explanation already listed: The same careless friend who lost the vertibird got base tagged.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Kaskader on September 20, 2013, 09:24:14 am
1 cap for Stribe.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: baskila on September 20, 2013, 09:27:23 am
Quote
Edit: other than the possible explanation already listed: The same careless friend who lost the vertibird got base tagged.
I'd say this is exactly what happened. Friends are very rarely real friends. Most of the time they are 'paper friends' that when you put them up for a test they fail. Sad but true.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: b__B on September 20, 2013, 11:06:35 am
In terms of game design for tagging and baseraping....
Is all the drama/entertainment worth the lost players?

Removing "tagging" would only somewhat mitigate the problem of base raping, I think most base rapes in 2238 (at least the ones I heard about) were done by someone who gained access to base by using social engineering or by legitimate gang member(s) who decided to quit the gang and rape the base at some point for whatever reason.

Nevertheless, I agree with you that it should not be possible to grid-follow without explicit agreement from leader. This agreement wouldn't have to be given every single time of course, there could be a list of players you agree to follow you and for example gang members and players on friend list (green) could be placed there automatically.

If someone would like tracking in the game, then I think it should be a feature on it's own, not abuse of teaming up, which is mostly harmful to newbies who don't know how it works. And I think tracking to private locations should never be possible, only tracking to encounters and public towns or other public locations. Hoarding large quantities of items in base/tent is necessary part of the game (for most players anyway) and I think it would be wrong if there was constant uncertainty if the items stored in private locations are safe or not.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Raspoutine on September 20, 2013, 11:40:54 am
Danger, treason, murder... make the game hard for some players maybe but fun nonetheless - and it's worth mentioning that Fonline-Reloaded really is noob friendly. It is a post-apocalyptic role playing game after all, the wastelands are harsh aren't they? It is great to see players role playing enough to integrate a faction to serve their own purposes.  How boring would it be if everyone could be safe in their base or in every town? I've been pked, robbed and everything I don't know how many times and never complain, I don't want FOR to be the Sims with guns and mutants. In the meantime I received help by experienced players - thanks Grizzan for instance.

I don't see the point in trying to mitigate this kind of drama, faction leaders' should be more careful rather than complain about their bases' being raped. Congrats to the players who managed to get in and loot whatever they could. Hopefully this will still happen in the future.

Maybe some of you recall the glorious (irony inside) first days of 2238 and maybe participated in the base rape organised by an admin (don't remember the name nor the faction): we were literally teleported in the base, how lame was that really? Then the admin expressed pathetic arguments to justify the cheat. In that case I would understand that players get mad. But here, it's just about poor faction management probably.

FOnline-reloaded is so far well managed. Just like for any game, some players will (rage)quit, some players will join. As long as the game continues to provide great entertainment I don't see any threat for FOR's future.

And if you're afraid that this will happen to you, go solo and paranoid, you'll most probably be safe.

Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: kill n die on September 20, 2013, 01:39:01 pm
Sometimes there is only a hard ways that can learn you how to be more carefuly nextime,it is called experience i think and you can be thankful that you can learn from it,if you don't then it is your  problem,cause if such shit happend to you,then for sure you were needed it...It is only your own choise if you will stand up when you fall and learn from your fails,or you will just lie down...
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Grizzan on September 20, 2013, 02:22:33 pm
This is fuckin MAGIC! Bunkers are not safe by now!!! And quite lot of stuff already is out there on the wasteland. All your base are belong to us! (http://i41.tinypic.com/hrahwl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/J2NVOXA.jpg)

is this a proof? i can even buy crafted by somebody item in a fucking merchant and show it.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: ENDURANCE on September 20, 2013, 02:53:32 pm
OMG, are you retard? We just explain that Stribe will know that we did this, and if he want he will confirm or not. We don't have to and we don't want to put on forum screenshot of every item stolen from base.  So please don't waste our time for stupid posts. nap
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Headhunter on September 20, 2013, 03:31:39 pm
(http://imageshack.us/a/img823/3707/jj2w.png)
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: paco on September 20, 2013, 04:32:58 pm
I'm kinda happy I had a DIY base. Because I actually choose where it is and I decide who follows me.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Sir Craftkid on September 20, 2013, 09:45:13 pm
I know Stribe didn't react very well and raged with critical logic fail, BUT...
What logic fail? I honestly see a good point of view in what he said. I support neither side, but since no one here is accepting Stribe's words, I guess I must speak them. The only person who had access to the base was his irl friend, and whether he did it or not was settled irl before he talked about it in game. The only way this could be false is if the friend gave it to someone else, without keeping anything. But since he would have nothing to gain from this, a fonline player would never do it.
As to the quit thing, yes indeed he has quit, be he was also banned on forums for speaking out...so no confirmation will be given.
As for tagging, sure, it would work. But Stribe was a mass farmer/crafter, one person(or even group) would not be able to take thousands of kilograms of stuff in one go without the means to come back.
And for grizzan, he died(as we all did), and he sold/gave away a lot of stuff. Lots of my stuff, too, is in circulation....no hope of getting my unique bb gun back, whoever took it? :,(
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Hodor on September 20, 2013, 11:11:17 pm
cows
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Sir Craftkid on September 21, 2013, 01:03:16 pm
cows
I honestly find it hard to believe that they managed to have a cow in that one baserape opportunity. One person may be easy to tag along, but if a cow comes in, he will definitely notice, especially at the exit gate.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Hodor on September 21, 2013, 04:34:35 pm
cows
I honestly find it hard to believe that they managed to have a cow in that one baserape opportunity. One person may be easy to tag along, but if a cow comes in, he will definitely notice, especially at the exit gate.

Scroll up.
Title: Re: FML GM raped my base
Post by: Sir Craftkid on September 21, 2013, 05:41:54 pm
Oh I see...