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Factions => The Thunderdome => Topic started by: caper on April 18, 2014, 08:39:38 pm

Title: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: caper on April 18, 2014, 08:39:38 pm
Seriously

Bombers dont even get thief tag in Hub for blowing people up? And if they do they can still loot their victims? Either remove the Hub protection - that ONLY protects thieves and bombers from players revenge - or make it REAL safe

All this does is make sure noone can be in Hub if a thief has bombs

Thanks MisiaPysia and Saddam u bleeding cunts. Exploiting a safe zone.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Beta HQ on April 18, 2014, 08:42:14 pm
Add Bolek to that list as well.

How about disabling steal like the BG did at the HUB.

HUB has NO PVP so it should have NO STEAL as well.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: caper on April 18, 2014, 08:52:50 pm
either

or

would be nice to have a place where players can socialize - without overgeared cunts bored spend their time rippin em a new one with c4

either

fkin

or





the way it is now it only protects the cunts from the bullets we have for em on sight


....its not a secret we need more players. Is allowing exploits like this the way?
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Mona on April 18, 2014, 10:11:26 pm
I don't like it either, but towns can't be totally safe like barter ground.

You are right, we need some place to socialize. That's why resource gathering will be removed from bases, to make us go out and meet people somewhere. That's the thought behind it. But even in the safest town there will always be some troll who will blow up just anyone, that's inevitable.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Beta HQ on April 18, 2014, 10:13:02 pm
I don't like it either, but towns can't be totally safe like barter ground.

You are right, we need some place to socialize. That's why resource gathering will be removed from bases, to make us go out and meet people somewhere. That's the thought behind it. But even in the safest town there will always be some troll who will blow up just anyone, that's inevitable.

The HUB ain't just any town its NEWBIE town. Why protect the vets more than the newbies that we need so badly?
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Chosen One on April 19, 2014, 03:13:28 am
Kilgore, I love what you've done here, but they're making a fool of you.
OK in hub=automatic -999,999 karma to character. That should fix it. Until they figure out the NEXT cheat.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: BurstDeath on April 19, 2014, 03:16:59 am
Add Bolek to that list as well.

How about disabling steal like the BG did at the HUB.

HUB has NO PVP so it should have NO STEAL as well.
soon Hub will be empty town.....shitty rules....
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Macaroth on April 19, 2014, 05:01:50 am
Wth why remove resources from bases, that is NOT a problem, there isnt a single base that offers much resources..if you take that away then the bases will loose their flavor and character and then just fuck everything!!!
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Beta HQ on April 19, 2014, 05:34:45 am
Actually if you have 4 bases you can get 160 fibre faster than if you went to the HUB for the same thing. With competition though Public resources either need to respawn faster or We should keep more private resources.

Base resources are not insignificant.

Fibre, Private mines, Meat. These are significant amounts especially for one person.

Now as for flavor, keep the images remove the resources. But IMO EVERYTHING should be moveable as per the base maker's specifications I.E. Sciencing to move things within walls. Including trees.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Kaaon on April 19, 2014, 05:39:59 am
hub is fine, whats the point of steal when it would be disabled ?
if you want to socialize go to IRC or facebook, thieves cant even steal you if you pay attention and they removed pvp from hub, isnt it enough ? 4 years was enabled stealing, bombing and pvp in all towns and now they disabled pvp and you want more and more wtf ?
btw this bombing fun will end with wipe, its just because players have now alot of caps and resources so bombs are too cheap for them, it will be ok after wipe
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Beta HQ on April 19, 2014, 05:56:43 am
Stealing from Newbies when they have nothing is what is wrong. NCR steal is fine HUB is special.

But I agree keeping it the way it is until wipe is OK it pushes newbies away but is fun. so its not really that ok.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: BurstDeath on April 19, 2014, 06:10:13 am
ehh... This is Fonline not my little pony if you dont want to meet thiefs then go to Fo2 ;p
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: caper on April 19, 2014, 06:50:34 am
Try and read the first post.

My issue is not with thieves in Hub. I think it would be nice with no stealing/no bombing there, but that is for a different thread.

My issue is with the fact that the way Hub is protected atm means thieves and bombers can do as they please and we can't eradicate them on sight. This is not what I imagine the idea was, thus I call it an exploit. I saw Misia bomb 3 people in a row there and guards did nothing. Could I shoot her? Nop, guards hadn't seen her stealing, so 1) she wont die from my bullets, and 2) ill be shot and lose karma for no reason. I got bombed by Saddam the other day who got caught stealing but still wasn't guard killed - he took the stuff off the toon and left by grid. I find that retarded.

My 2nd point was that having bombers go wild in Hub is not a good idea since it's the nub town - and that was, I believe, the reason it was protected in the first place? We need more players. We don't need more entertainment venues for bored oldtimers to ruin the game of new players. That is about as smart as eating your arm coz you're hungry. If the issue is lack of entertainment for oldtimers, that is a different issue entirely.

If you want thieving and bombing in Hub, so be it, but don't protect the offenders from the victims...

So what i say is - again - either or. Has nothing to do with my little pony, it's all about exploits and revenge.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Kaaon on April 19, 2014, 06:54:14 am
ehm only way to kill someone with bomb in hub is by stealing because it doesnt do damage in hub (only IK if you have it in inventory) so your problem is with steal
and as i already said, it will be fine after wipe, its because there was alot of exploits, bad game mechanic, too long season => too many resources and caps => alot of bombs
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Macaroth on April 19, 2014, 11:56:51 am
its not just about the bombs for fucks sake, its the principals itself, if youre bored then download some other of the thousands of games out there and entertain yourself or go jerk off in a corner. NO fucking reason and NO excuse for that sort of behavior
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Sperber on April 19, 2014, 12:35:38 pm
It's a roleplaying game and thieves are just another role.
Pay attention and you don't have to fear them.

As for bombers in the Hub ...
I suggested they should have additional checks to be detected by guards
when they activate bombs, put them in people's inventories and use detonators.

We also need the Crazy Bomber karma status back.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Chosen One on April 19, 2014, 01:34:48 pm
its not just about the bombs for fucks sake, its the principals itself, if youre bored then download some other of the thousands of games out there and entertain yourself or go jerk off in a corner. NO fucking reason and NO excuse for that sort of behavior
True, but it's still part of the game. Unfortunately there is no requirement to be a decent person in life. *shrug*
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: gnjisa on April 23, 2014, 07:31:23 am
Quote
if you want to socialize go to IRC or facebook,

strongly agree.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Gorishimo on April 23, 2014, 09:19:43 am
I love it when retards try and dictate how someone should play a game, let alone a online game.
Title: Re: Hub is RETARDED
Post by: Nameless on April 23, 2014, 04:12:56 pm
xD :P :) :>