FOnline: Reloaded
Factions => The Thunderdome => River of Tears => Topic started by: carnack on March 07, 2014, 09:32:36 am
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tb traps are fucking lame, you suck and cannot play so you do tb traps it was always like this and no i didnt die in your tb trap and i could kill you all in realtime alone
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You cry always, - "TB TRAP! TB TRAP! TB TRAP". Fallout is turn based game. Not like this go play TETRIS!
Its was event, vi used flare! All dudes droped self in encounter. Nothing trap. Come today to event and take a PA and kill us all! LOL! ;D ;D
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tb traps are fucking lame, you suck and cannot play so you do tb traps it was always like this and no i didnt die in your tb trap and i could kill you all in realtime alone
You are little girl ? I dont understand why you always cry and cry :P
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Fallout is turn based game. ...
Its was event, vi used flare! ...
You're right, in Fallout, the combat is in turn-based.
But this is FOnline: Reloaded
There are people with characters built for real-time combat.
And "TB trap" is called "trap" for a reason.
An event is usually announced before it begins. It was a trap. Noobs don't know about flares, so they drop in mostly by misfortune and by curiosity.
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A couple of times, guys came and carried us! And we are killing these. What are the problems? Do not know how to play tb, do not cry. :)
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sure come to any city i kick your ass in leather armor
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I come often with dudes in town. And if I die I will not cry. ;)
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yes you will cry
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You cry always, - "TB TRAP! TB TRAP! TB TRAP". Fallout is turn based game. Not like this go play TETRIS!
Its was event, vi used flare! All dudes droped self in encounter. Nothing trap. Come today to event and take a PA and kill us all! LOL! ;D ;D
It was originally created as TB without thinking PVP condition. Here are experiments that can result in something decent or not. That it seems to me like garbage. Nothing clever and interesting, just it. Anyway, real time rules!
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You play Fallout and killing NPCs in TB, you're having fun. Killing players even more fun. I can understand if you dislike the original Fallout. But then go play in Сounter strike. Fallout is RPG not action game!
Another thing is the balance between RT and TB. We got to think of how to fix it. And yet one should Fix up. :)
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Napalm this guy Selmarion is so stupid it has no sense to argue with him :). Its like arguing with pidgeon that shits all over everything.
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I think soon you yourself will play on this server with the admin. 20 people online. Because you're stupid schoolboy. And admin listens to you and your stupid friends.
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Well, I don't think it was a trap. Because people (like the one who lost PA,lol), kept coming back. I am sure most had a good time and great fun. If anyone wants to bring some action (well, even if it is TB action) to the game, why not?
First stage of the event attended by over 50 players (like I said, some of them came back several times). Was it that bad for our favorite server? No. So please, cornack, don't be annoying.
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Hey, shut your mouth child! I do not deny the original fallout, who is smart understood what I said. This here is smelling child created from milk and pear. I'm leaving.
Once again we are giving work to Kilgore. I would post in pvp ... but do not know what to do.
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Ok I agree that sometimes turnbased is fun. But here are some things that I don't like with that flare.
1. When u set flare of with your team ans set the timer who ever is inside has advantage.
2. People who are already in the trap have advantage, as soon as someone spawns from outside the group into this trap misses 2 turns, in other words the guys inside the encounter get two turns before the guy who just spawn.
3. Even if u spawn with five guys u still gotta wait two turns before u can even attack back by then u are already dead or u have to use superstims but pointless because they will focus fire on u.
4. In the past I have entered with my team and actually won because we basically swarmed the guys inside because we knew they would have advantage over us, but when u kill the enemy the guys who lost will just keep spawning in bluesuite all the time because the flare won't disappear and u can never leave the encounter and loot because these guys will keep spawning.
5. Basically who ever sets the flare and timer off will always win because the got a huge advantage over u by the reasons above so I suggest this if you guys think u are so amazing at tunbbased why don't u meet us in a encounter we wait untill both teams are ready inside and then fight?
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Looool epic trap??? You have kill 100% of noobs lol! One guy is coming with PA, its soldier , a noob too. Do a trap and kill 15 bluesuits, i call that a waste of time. between, TB SUUUUUCKS , tb is for fags ,really... Thats not pvp.
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You play Fallout and killing NPCs in TB, you're having fun. Killing players even more fun. I can understand if you dislike the original Fallout. But then go play in Сounter strike. Fallout is RPG not action game!
Another thing is the balance between RT and TB. We got to think of how to fix it. And yet one should Fix up. :)
This guy must be one of hetzer team !! ;D
Killing bluesuits in a tb trap with turbo plasma!
COBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
;D
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Well, I don't think it was a trap. Because people (like the one who lost PA,lol), kept coming back.
Maybe... he wanted to get his goddamn PA back?
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Well, I don't think it was a trap. Because people (like the one who lost PA,lol), kept coming back.
Maybe... he wanted to get his goddamn PA back?
Maybe.. maybe soldier will not come back in bluesuit to get his PA back.
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He just loves to wait for his turn for ~10 minutes.
I see.
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He just loves to wait for his turn for ~10 minutes.
I see.
Lol no, but how will the guy get his armor back without fight?
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I'll leave that to your imagination...
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This is pvp movies and screens !!! so stop writing bullshit stories here and go to forum pvp or else where
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TB-trap TB-trap TB-trap
***crying***
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You cry always, - "TB TRAP! TB TRAP! TB TRAP". Fallout is turn based game. Not like this go play TETRIS!
Its was event, vi used flare! All dudes droped self in encounter. Nothing trap. Come today to event and take a PA and kill us all! LOL! ;D ;D
It was originally created as TB without thinking PVP condition. Here are experiments that can result in something decent or not. That it seems to me like garbage. Nothing clever and interesting, just it. Anyway, real time rules!
Many times we enter into such traps and won the battle.
Stop crying, girls.
Recognize that the turn-based tactical battles where you have to think not for you.
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I love tb, I have TB char also, but its broken here. Thats not pvp screens what are you posting here, its just screens of you being jerks. But yea, youre proud of it. (Havent died in the trap, even survived a few in past with sneaker).
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Turn Based - is a soul and spirit of Falluot and that is what all real Fallout fans LOVE!
Real Time is fun, but it was made to attract the modern compost of gamers and speed up their fights.
Fallout is like chess, fights are based on strategy. The only bad thing with online FO in turn based, is that a lot of scums are draging time in fights just to mess with players. You are already planning to cut TB balls off. How smart is it, the time will show.
Eliminating TB fights is not an option. Better think how to optimise TB fights time, and minimize waiting factor. After you do that right, the question will be if Real Time fights are needed in FOnline at all!
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It should be tb only.
It's fallout.
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ITs not fallout its fonline, there is big difference
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^ THIS
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PHAH, FONLINE would not exist without Fallout and Fallout 2. So, respect Grandma and Grandpa and dont mess around with the basics - fix TB and eliminate RT.
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PHAH, FONLINE would not exist without Fallout and Fallout 2. So, respect Grandma and Grandpa and dont mess around with the basics - fix TB and eliminate RT.
I thought like that too at first, but after getting used to RT I don't want to go back to TB.
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PHAH, FONLINE would not exist without Fallout and Fallout 2. So, respect Grandma and Grandpa and dont mess around with the basics - fix TB and eliminate RT.
Still, FOnline isn't Fallout.
If you want to respect the ancestors, visit them!
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Fallout is turn based game. ...
Its was event, vi used flare! ...
You're right, in Fallout, the combat is in turn-based.
But this is FOnline: Reloaded
There are people with characters built for real-time combat.
And "TB trap" is called "trap" for a reason.
An event is usually announced before it begins. It was a trap. Noobs don't know about flares, so they drop in mostly by misfortune and by curiosity.
Fallout, FOnline: Reloaded, fuck it's a fallout game, and since there is turnbased (much like classic fallout) and realtime (like tactics) if you can't handle one you prolly shouldn't even fucking play the game. I have never really gotten a chance to see anyone bitch realtime (which let's be honest is the more unbalanced of the two systems primarily due to the fact that you can move indefinately and only fire your weapon when action points recharge. Whereas turnbased you can only do as many actions as your ACTION POINTS define you to be able to do). That's just my two cents. anyways here is a meme I made for this occasion
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I didn't said that "I can't handle TB combat", nobody said that.
FOnline: Reloaded is a game based on the Fallout games.
The setting is still nearly the same as in the world of Fallout.
Although I really love the first two Fallout games and their TB system, (Shit! Fallout 2 is still my favorite game! I've completed it minimum 250+ times. I just can't stop loving the heck out of it!) the game what we are arguing about is still called "FOnline: Reloaded".
It has 2 (two) combat modes.
And people make use of those combat modes.
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Builds.
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You know what builds are?
They are specific character builds for weapons/combat modes, etc..
RT specialist characters mostly suck ass in TB. Especially in a TB trap.
Just try to drop into some TB trap with your most powerful TB build.
Your opinion on TB traps will change real quickly.
The reason why you haven't seen anybody "bitching" about RT is because FNGs won't register on the forum to cry about one of the game's main feature and because RT is pretty fucking balanced. It's a good, working system. The same as TB.
Fallout ≠ FOnline
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Why is there such an outrage over tb traps? Traps that you don't have to enter.. Honestly thought you would be the last one to complain about shit carnack. All hope is lost now.
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I love how people only read the name of the topic and/or 1-2 posts.
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tb traps are fucking lame, you suck and cannot play so you do tb traps it was always like this and no i didnt die in your tb trap and i could kill you all in realtime alone
Well how about your UV traps in new reno and WH? Is that lame? Lol stop crying and play the game ^^
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it's not a trap. TB as option for trap but not RT.
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Well how about your UV traps in new reno and WH? Is that lame? Lol stop crying and play the game ^^
There is a big difference between TB trap and RT ambush.
When you spawn in a TB trap (sometimes by forced encounter), you have 100% chance to die before have the chance to move, even with a tank build. Because a TB build with good gear, will always deal 300 + damage.
In a RT ambush in Reno or WH, you can scout with sneaker, use map preview, choose your spawn point... Its much more realistic and balanced.
Reno and WH are pvp zones, it is known. When you go there, be prepared, especially when you go alone. You won't have any more "revenge", the only time you killed me was because of the old name colorizing, won't happend again, be sure. When I kill you in Reno or WH, it's not lame or shit, I have better build and much more skill. Get used to it.
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Interesting thing is that i didnt start this topic but my post is first and it says its my topic, what is this shit ? Fuck this server i am out.
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Fuck this server i am out.
This is second time you wrote this today. How long we have to wait for you to do it already and stop writing?
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he willl be back... im quite sure 8)
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he willl be back... im quite sure 8)
Yeah and Kilgore told on IRC that there is new update in this week. That won't solve PvP problems, but maybe some other things.
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Fuck this server i am out.
This is second time you wrote this today. How long we have to wait for you to do it already and stop writing?
oh kirkor you will not get rid of me on forums i am sorry
the wipe eta collides with dark souls 2 so i am quite sure i will rather play a hard. ballanced and rewarding game when it comes out
i am sure nobody will want to play against cheating bbs so i find it rather entertaining to watch the future of this server
i didnt start this topic so i am pissed my nickname is written there in the started by column which can only mean some forum moderator manipulated this topic by replacing the first post with my post
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Interesting thing is that i didnt start this topic but my post is first and it says its my topic, what is this shit ?
99% "crying" topics come from you, so I wouldn't be suprised ;D
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shut up jesse jane, enjoy fighting nuka rangers
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i didnt start this topic so i am pissed my nickname is written there in the started by column which can only mean some forum moderator manipulated this topic by replacing the first post with my post
No, he probably separated offtop flaming about TB from another topic and put it in here. It was done few times already on these forums and no one raged about this... until now, lol.
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Just i want to tell:
With 2brd+1mrd (7) with fast shot (5) // With Advanced LSW (better dmg) // With 223 DR modifier -30
Against full resist 330 character, i do 15 dmg per shot
No need to answer
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I too believe that the RT, doesn't realy fit in the fallout 1 & 2 environment. I don't mind it in fallout tactics.
I'm a game developer myself, and from a gameplay perspective you either go RT or TB but not both at the same time, It's confusing. And due to the fact that it's a tribute to the original developers interplay & black isle I would keep it TB.
Also because it's actualy based on a lot of gameplay ellements from D&D, and you don't have RT in D&D for a reason.
If I had the time I would try to remake it more like the original one. I do love all the new places and cities they've created it's pritty insain.
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when you get used to RT, you don't wanna go back to TB anymore. Ever. TB is an incredible time waste, which you don't realize unless you try out RT properly.
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I too believe that the RT, doesn't realy fit in the fallout 1 & 2 environment. I don't mind it in fallout tactics.
I'm a game developer myself, and from a gameplay perspective you either go RT or TB but not both at the same time, It's confusing. And due to the fact that it's a tribute to the original developers interplay & black isle I would keep it TB.
Also because it's actualy based on a lot of gameplay ellements from D&D, and you don't have RT in D&D for a reason.
If I had the time I would try to remake it more like the original one. I do love all the new places and cities they've created it's pritty insain.
I'm a game developer myself and from game design perspective both should be an option. If one of the modes is too exploitable that should be disabled for those locations, for example no TB in Town Control, or simply if there are more than 10 players on a flare trap, otherwise it's just wasting players time.
D&D is not a PC game as far as I know, but pen&paper/tabletop, where TB is a must due to technicality. Other D&D based games for PC are RT and worked well, for example BG1/2 where BG3 is TB and the TB part it sucks big time. Pillars of Eternity keeps the RT design of original BG's and it's a very enjoyable CRPG game.
As for what TB and RT goes, I am working on a mix of them to make TB with lots of AI tolerable, where all AI in the same stack make their turn simultaneously, followed by player than either a stack of AI or player depending on sequence. Hopefully I get it done before my time on this project runs out because I like TB more as well. Then it's just a question if it's compatible with Reloaded and when/if they adapt it... so gl :)