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General => Events & Competitions => Topic started by: Kilgore on September 08, 2013, 12:09:41 pm

Title: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 08, 2013, 12:09:41 pm
Today another competition.

We have tested Barter Ground before the launch and all exploits involving killing other players there were fixed. As we all know, players are much better when it comes to find such exploits and here's a job for you:

- Find an effective way to kill OTHER player in Barter Ground so you can show me how you are doing it.

The prize for the first discovered exploit is 150.000 bottle caps.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: baskila on September 08, 2013, 03:24:42 pm
Where is the barter ground?
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Strike on September 08, 2013, 03:25:26 pm
Where is the barter ground?
Near Redding, just search for it.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Desert Mutt on September 08, 2013, 05:18:14 pm
30K is too little for such info, why would some1 share it with you if he can earn 30K+ caps just by killing other players.  ::)
I suggest you give implants or something for such kind of things to have higher chance of successfully finding the exploit.
Knowing that people will try exploit everything that can be exploited (and good exploits worth more than any item) even implant suggestion can be questionable.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 08, 2013, 05:20:18 pm
The prize will get higher with time.

Also, to Kelin and the other guy:
Trying to find an exploit there, killing guards and making a mess WHILE I'm completing auction deal with some players carrying few hundreds bottle caps is very stupid.
My response was maybe too harsh but as I told you, I will refund your items lost on that attempt, so don't get too angry.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kelin on September 08, 2013, 05:47:06 pm
We apologize for interfering, didn’t know about the auction  :P
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: jacky on September 09, 2013, 08:06:18 am
Hmmm...activate dynamite for 1s next to trader?;)
Can i get my implant?;)
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Perteks on September 09, 2013, 08:07:55 am
Hmmm...activate dynamite for 1s next to trader?;)
Can i get my implant?;)
- Find an effective way to kill OTHER player in Barter Ground so you can show me how you are doing it.

The prize for the first discovered exploit is 30.000 bottle caps.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: 3.14 on September 09, 2013, 09:01:53 am
Step 1. Find a victim.
Use social techniques to make him/her falow you to the Barter Ground and do what you do.

Step 2. Find a GM/Admin doing Important Thing at the Barter Ground.
You will need a bit of luck for this step, but it can happen.

Step 3. Troll !
If you do it right you and your victim will get exploaded. But do it wrong and get a ban.


Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: jacky on September 09, 2013, 09:30:00 am
i will use ur 3rd step to avoid usind explosive in barter ground.
you you detonate c4/dynamite in barter ground you will be jailed/banned for 1week.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: 3.14 on September 09, 2013, 10:03:23 am
i will use ur 3rd step to avoid usind explosive in barter ground.
you you detonate c4/dynamite in barter ground you will be jailed/banned for 1week.
No, you don't use any c4/dynamite, you piss of the GM/Admin until He  (the GM/Admin that is) uses his GM_POWERS to kill both you and the victim that is trolling next to you.
If I read this topic right it happened at least once (to Kelin and 'the other guy').

It is a 0-Day Exploit, but it could have worked.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: jacky on September 09, 2013, 11:17:30 am
or he will just jail you. they have laser spammer dick dildo zip guns, who can kill you for 9999 damage with out any splash damage.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: MickM on September 09, 2013, 11:33:17 am
Lots of Super Stimpaks? Like in F2.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: 3.14 on September 09, 2013, 11:36:23 am
Not my point. Your victim will get gm-killed as well, for trolling (that's what happend to Kilan and 'the other guy'-btw I keep caling him 'the other guy' and now I think it was Hulk), it's not about splash dmg!

I'm not saying it will work every time, but it WOULD work if the 'Kilan and the other guy incedent' was a devious plan and not a random event.

In short:
A way to kill there is to trick a gamemaster to do the killing for you.   
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Crazy on September 09, 2013, 11:44:26 am
Too lazy to try IG, but someone should check: give a follower to someone inside when it is set to "attack everyone on sight". Might be tricky to give it before he goes crazy though.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Perteks on September 09, 2013, 12:50:39 pm
Lots of Super Stimpaks? Like in F2.
I don't think SS have drawback now
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 09, 2013, 02:05:22 pm
None of these methods should work. Still if you manage to do it, let me know.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Gooseberry on September 09, 2013, 02:33:59 pm
An effective way to kill people trading? Tried the old steal planting dynamite yet?
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kelin on September 09, 2013, 04:32:15 pm
Gooseberry try to steal plant any item in the location, you will see it’s impossible.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 09, 2013, 05:56:11 pm
Steal has guaranteed fail in Barter Ground.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: MickM on September 09, 2013, 06:12:19 pm
Maybe this will work:
First - stuff the target with chems lowering Action Points to make it stand still :)
Second - stuff with chems decreasing one of SPECIAL stat to 0. should kill him ?
or stuff with tons of fruits - radiation will make the rest.

Can't afford right now enough chems for testing and I doubt find the "target", so try your own tests:)
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Perteks on September 09, 2013, 06:22:24 pm
Maybe this will work:
First - stuff the target with chems lowering Action Points to make it stand still :)
Second - stuff with chems decreasing one of SPECIAL stat to 0. should kill him ?
or stuff with tons of fruits - radiation will make the rest.

Can't afford right now enough chems for testing and I doubt find the "target", so try your own tests:)
You can't chem somebody. And it don't work like in Baldur's Gate 0 stat kill character. You can't get even 0 special (or higher than 10)
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: plenty on September 09, 2013, 10:42:06 pm
In fallout (original) you could get 0 stats. Sort of.
Try to get a lot of radiation in Glow, than wash it away, and you still die on the way back - your stats keep dropping due to radiation delayed effect, and when one reaches 0, you die. I had to drug my char in most games just to keep SPECIAL above 0, to make it to the nearest town.

As for the way to kill in Barter Grounds - has anyone tried to enter with ticking explosives already on him? I can't find any, but it may be worth a try.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 10, 2013, 05:53:46 am
Explosives kill only the bomber as far as I checked.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kombajn on September 12, 2013, 04:35:00 am
Order slave or mercenary to kill a person?
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 12, 2013, 12:02:46 pm
Have you tried it or are you asking me? I tried when I was doing some tests and it didn't work either.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: jacky on September 13, 2013, 10:41:12 am
~ from plasma grenade next to victim?
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: baskila on September 13, 2013, 12:11:17 pm
~ from plasma grenade next to victim?
Try it
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: mojuk on September 13, 2013, 12:15:35 pm
- Find an effective way to kill OTHER player in Barter Ground so you can show me how you are doing it.
Seriously people, stop guessing, test your idea and if it works post it here.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 14, 2013, 07:14:03 am
Yeah. The prize is now 100.000 bottle caps.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 20, 2013, 09:01:12 pm
Time to increase prize - it is now 150.000 bottle caps.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Sir Craftkid on September 20, 2013, 09:22:18 pm
Set plastic explosives, steal them onto a companion, and manually explode them. I have killed 7 people like this so far with no consequences whatsoever...not even a reputation drop when I did it in NCR.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 20, 2013, 09:23:40 pm
Who cares about NCR, we're talking about Barter Ground here.

Btw since some of you still don't understand - theories mean nothing, I want to see how you're doing it there.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Sir Craftkid on September 20, 2013, 09:58:52 pm
Who cares about NCR, we're talking about Barter Ground here.

Btw since some of you still don't understand - theories mean nothing, I want to see how you're doing it there.
I did it in barter ground, I just said that I did it in NCR too and did not even lose reputation for it
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: baskila on September 20, 2013, 10:00:24 pm
pic/vid or it didn't happen

and no NCR bullcrap ok? this is about Barter Ground
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: kill n die on September 20, 2013, 10:00:59 pm
Who cares about NCR, we're talking about Barter Ground here.

Btw since some of you still don't understand - theories mean nothing, I want to see how you're doing it there.
I did it in barter ground, I just said that I did it in NCR too and did not even lose reputation for it
How about you just post some proof or something instead of smartass?
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Sir Craftkid on September 20, 2013, 10:08:35 pm
pic/vid or it didn't happen

and no NCR bullcrap ok? this is about Barter Ground
I think I stated clearly that I had done it in barter ground too. You can remove the ncr part completely if you wish, but the fact remains it worked.
And as for pic/video, didn't take any screens yet(didn't know about the competition here, was just having fun), I have no tools for recording gameplay, and idk how to post a screen even if I get one later - it hasn't worked for me uploading them before.
Either way, I spent my last explosive device ridding some idler of his enclave armor. Need some donations and the above information if you want pics
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 20, 2013, 10:15:54 pm
Best if you just show me that, no need to make screenshots or videos.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Sir Craftkid on September 20, 2013, 10:46:03 pm
Tried it again and it said "No PvP"
Also frag mines did not work
Damn whoever patched it, I was so close to 150k :/
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 20, 2013, 10:50:15 pm
Patched what? Last server update was almost 3 days ago.
 
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[00:46:55] <%Misiolap> Server status: Online | Players: 206 | Uptime: 2d 14h 41m 8s | Machine uptime: 8d 16h [play.fonline-reloaded.net:2238]

Using explosives (dynamite, C4, land mine) in barter ground was well tested by me and DocAn during closed beta and possible exploits fixed. It kills only the bomber.
Nothing has changed here since like month.

Btw I dont have a problem with giving 150.000 caps to anyone that finds a way to PK there, it's the goal of this competition. So far, no one has found anything.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Sir Craftkid on September 20, 2013, 10:54:44 pm
Patched what? Last server update was almost 3 days ago.
 
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[00:46:55] <%Misiolap> Server status: Online | Players: 206 | Uptime: 2d 14h 41m 8s | Machine uptime: 8d 16h [play.fonline-reloaded.net:2238]

Using explosives (dynamite, C4, land mine) in barter ground was well tested by me and DocAn during closed beta and possible exploits fixed. It kills only the bomber.
Nothing has changed here since like month.
wow wtf. Then I should have really taken a screenshot. I just heard about barter ground, went there with some boom booms and it worked for me. Could it possibly be something with the fact that it was my first time entering? Like with pve areas (ares, caves, glow, etc) when you first enter, there is a huge delay in creatures attacking you, but when you enter later they attack almost immediately.
Since I cant prove it anymore, I guess no caps for me. But I suggest that you guys look a bit into it to see if there's a loophole or error in the scripts, either there is one or I glitched something up pretty bad
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Kilgore on September 20, 2013, 10:56:06 pm
There is no glitch, you can be killed by explosives only if you was the one that armed them.
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Sir Craftkid on September 20, 2013, 10:58:54 pm
Then I don't really know what happened....
Title: Re: Killing in Barter Ground
Post by: Hodor on September 21, 2013, 05:58:44 am
Most people I asked seemed perfectly aware of this competition, but are completely uninterested due to what they consider an insufficient reward.