FOnline: Reloaded

General => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Kilgore on November 23, 2013, 10:17:10 pm

Title: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 23, 2013, 10:17:10 pm
Server will be shut down for maintenance. It might take several hours.

Game server is currently launched on another machine.
To connect, you have to change IP in FOConfig.exe:

31.11.189.128

(http://i.imgur.com/IoDli5Z.png)

Your progress will be saved.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Shamessa on November 23, 2013, 10:21:11 pm
such maintanance on saturday night? And what for I bought 10 beers!

Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on November 23, 2013, 10:22:24 pm
aawwww fuck

I was in encounter fighting NCR army and server disconnects :P
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: laaki on November 23, 2013, 10:33:17 pm
who is responsible for that server after resuming done a decent event that everyone has had a chance? : D paw on top! : D
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: caper on November 23, 2013, 10:43:55 pm
all respect for maint need but dam worst timing ever sat night when cleared schedule for finally doin some gaming :/
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 23, 2013, 10:47:21 pm
New IP posted. Stop crying, jesus.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: caper on November 23, 2013, 10:52:40 pm
fair enough *dries tears*  u were fast xD

best regards, jesus
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: ElSlayer on November 23, 2013, 10:55:14 pm
It works! Thanks, Kilgore!  ;D
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Shamessa on November 23, 2013, 10:59:39 pm
it works, thanks!

Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Furior on November 24, 2013, 02:15:00 am
Can u post previous IP please? Cant find it...
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 02:17:53 am
I'm moving back the data now.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 02:31:58 am
Ok you can play again using the old address:

play.fonline-reloaded.net
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Strike on November 24, 2013, 06:31:13 am
Few days ago started to wonder why you wasn't online so much and few other things.. got feeling that something going change.

But what was actually changed?
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Rubber Bob on November 24, 2013, 10:33:52 am
after going back to the original IP it keeps the 8080 http port why is that and what was the old one again? thanks
wasn't it 4040?
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Strike on November 24, 2013, 10:46:58 am
after going back to the original IP it keeps the 8080 http port why is that and what was the old one again? thanks
wasn't it 4040?

Port for game server -> 2238
Port for updater -> 4040
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Rubber Bob on November 24, 2013, 10:52:44 am
after going back to the original IP it keeps the 8080 http port why is that and what was the old one again? thanks
wasn't it 4040?

Ok the data/cache needs to be cleared from the 31.11.189.128 folder and cache (keep the folder and cache just in case)
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Vini on November 24, 2013, 11:09:47 am
I'm still getting issues when trying to connect. Here (http://puu.sh/5rKlV.jpg (http://puu.sh/5rKlV.jpg)) you have the proof and what time is it atm.

I put the play.fonline-reloaded.net in the FOConfig.exe, and the port is also correct (2238), so I don't know if there's a problem with me or the server.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: This is my FOConfig.exe if there's any doubt: http://puu.sh/5rKy7.png (http://puu.sh/5rKy7.png)
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Strike on November 24, 2013, 11:12:37 am
@Vini

Next time check this server status.

(http://riget.info/check/reloaded/)

Edit: Status image is on the bottom of forum
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Vini on November 24, 2013, 11:18:29 am
Aw, I'm so sorry! Is there any link to it? I can't seem to find it.

Thanks for your help!
Check bottom of forum ;)

Thanks a lot  :D I'll be sure of checking it, see you in the Wastes :P
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Belrask on November 24, 2013, 11:31:08 am
This thread confused the shit out of me too...
Just spent 30minutes trying to connect to either address, clearing cache, rebooting machine to kill unclosed connections..
Stupid timezones.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: juniorkm7 on November 24, 2013, 11:33:14 am
How long the server is going to be down?
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 12:11:37 pm
Maintenance is done.

What was done was complete reinstallation of OS on the server machine in order to decrease server costs.

However, I've run into some problems with recovering some chars with russian nicknames and I'm currently unable to fix it.

People who have such characters and have problem with login should write me PM, including names of these characters.

All other characters should work fine.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 02:16:16 pm
Looks like there are some surprises left in the engine so we have some problems with the server crashes.

I'm working on it, but I have no idea if there will be no more crashes. Server was changed to save progress every 10 minutes.

If nothing will work then I'll switch back to my alternate server.

Sorry for inconvenience.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Gimper on November 24, 2013, 02:29:14 pm
See what happens when you get greedy? Should have just kept the other server. Didn't you say that you had enough funds to run the previous server until January of 2014? I mean, who's idea was it to switch anyways?
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: caper on November 24, 2013, 02:40:35 pm
I appreciate the frequent status updates and the hard work to keep this free server running.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 03:31:58 pm
Also, important thing:

IF YOU CANNOT LOGIN, DO NOT CREATE CHARACTER WITH THE SAME NAME (in cyryllics)!

If the server is stable, I'll try one more attempt to recover lost characters, probably on server clone.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Vini on November 24, 2013, 03:57:28 pm
Thank you for the updates! I hope it is solved soon
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Furior on November 24, 2013, 04:15:39 pm
Please mercy... stops these damn rollbacks
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Gimper on November 24, 2013, 04:25:46 pm
Just switch back to the other server... sheesh..
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Daryl on November 24, 2013, 05:57:16 pm
4 times in the last hour i got to level 19 - 20 lol then had to restart it again
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 06:02:33 pm
I've still have problems with the server crashing, so saving your progress is not guaranteed, as it might crash any time.

If there is no other option I will switch to my backup server. If it still doesn't work, I will have to rollback to the last working state which was 16 hours ago.

Server is up so you can proceed but at your own risk.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: shemsu on November 24, 2013, 06:09:01 pm
(http://i.imgflip.com/501ok.jpg)
 ;D
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Gimper on November 24, 2013, 06:35:43 pm
There is zero offence intended in this post, but this is the exact same stupidity that was happening on Fo2238. The devs messes things up and didn't know how to fix it. Why would you switch servers in the first place? It was going good and smooth until somebody said "Hey! Lets save money and switch to a garbage server!" I mean, honestly, what were you guys thinking? Did you think the donations wouldn't keep up? What was the reason for the switch? And I was about to donate 50 bucks yesterday. I'm seriously thinking about going back to fonline 2. Like I said, this isn't meant to offend anyone, but stupid preventable mistakes like this is what causes the player-base to plummet.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Perteks on November 24, 2013, 06:48:11 pm
There is zero offence intended in this post, but this is the exact same stupidity that was happening on Fo2238. The devs messes things up and didn't know how to fix it. Why would you switch servers in the first place? It was going good and smooth until somebody said "Hey! Lets save money and switch to a garbage server!" I meblah blah blah.... Wow amount of butthurt and bullshit is amazing in this post how you did this?..... blah blah blah preventable mistakes like this is what causes the player-base to plummet.

But you know what maintenance means and for what it is ? Only good will of Kilgore is that he set it temporary for different server
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Rubber Bob on November 24, 2013, 06:54:15 pm
Gimper, Bro calm your tits! HE will figure it out. If he decides to switch the server, than that's up to him. It is non of your buisness. And if you lose your shit after one maybe negative decision he makes and call that stupid, than I'm going to say that's offensive. All will be good...just don't forget the tits!
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 06:59:48 pm
1. Stop whining. If you are worried by possible rollbacks, just take a break and you will be fine.

2. If you haven't noticed it yet, I'm the only person who maintains the server and makes any updates.

3. Server machine is exactly the same one, but with different OS.

4. Trying a different OS which would significantly cut server cost is always worth a shot. This means that the server will be online for longer time and less dependant on donations. Otherwise it's just shut down some day as 2238 was. Also, remember that I'm using massive amounts of my free time to get this running and updated once in a while. DocAn is spending a lot of his free time to make rerolls to those who donated. We are not rewarded with money in any way as all donations are used to pay for the server.

5. As it was said, if the thing keeps crashing, I will use the other solution to get rid of this problem. All you need is to have some patience.

Thanks to those who understand.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Gimper on November 24, 2013, 06:59:59 pm
But you know why I take it up the butt all the time? I'm gay good will towards men.... maintenance.

Yeah I do. It means maintaining it. But it wont be very maintained if everyone leaves...

Gimper, Bro please suck my man-tits! HE wont do it for me. If he decides to than I'll be happy. It is non of your buisness. And if I get my shit packed after one go, maybe negative decision he makes and call that stupid, than I'm going to say that's offensive. My anus will ache!...just don't forget the tits!
But it is our buisiness! It's all the players buisiness, I'm sure everyone wants to play without constant roll backs and stuff.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Gimper on November 24, 2013, 07:02:34 pm
1. Stop whining. If you are worried by possible rollbacks, just take a break and you will be fine.

2. If you haven't noticed it yet, I'm the only person who maintains the server and makes any updates.

3. Server machine is exactly the same one, but with different OS.

4. Trying a different OS which would significantly cut server cost is always worth a shot. This means that the server will be online for longer time and less dependant on donations. Otherwise it's just shut down some day as 2238 was. Also, remember that I'm using massive amounts of my free time to get this running and updated once in a while. DocAn is spending a lot of his free time to make rerolls to those who donated. We are not rewarded with money in any way as all donations are used to pay for the server.

5. As it was said, if the thing keeps crashing, I will use the other solution to get rid of this problem. All you need is to have some patience.

Thanks to those who understand.

Yes yes all that's good and dandy, and I appreciate all your "free time" you use for the server. But the thing is "worth a shot" means that you had no idea what could happen. It was preventable, and that's all I'm saying. Caution can solve a LOT of problems.

PS - sorry for the double post.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Rubber Bob on November 24, 2013, 07:06:14 pm
@Gimper I see how it is, you didn't calm them... What is constant in your opinion? I can understand your madness, but constant isn't the right word. We're in homemade town here, so if you can't play for a day than you should concider having a hobby or something.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Strike on November 24, 2013, 07:09:25 pm
2. If you haven't noticed it yet, I'm the only person who maintains the server and makes any updates.
Maybe hire some more free devs to help you then?
And yeah I'm not interested in such job, I has Wiki and other things to help ;)
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Gimper on November 24, 2013, 07:10:14 pm
@Gimper I see how it is, you didn't calm them... What is constant in your opinion? I can understand your madness, but constant isn't the right word. We're in homemade town here, so if you can't play for a day than you should concider having a hobby or something.
If your only interested in trying to anger me, (In which you are failing to do so) then you should go to the thunderdome section. I'm merely trying to prove a point.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 07:18:41 pm
Maybe hire some more free devs to help you then?
Like who? Forget about such thing like fonline devs, they are extinct.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Strike on November 24, 2013, 07:22:37 pm
Like who? Forget about such thing like fonline devs, they are extinct.
Sorry, I correct myself.. I think what you need is those computer children who like to play with servers and such things, these kind of server problems could be resolved much faster and you have more time for updates and you could forgot about server problems.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 07:33:39 pm
I think what you need is those computer children who like to play with servers and such things
Now you offend me!! :P
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Sperber on November 24, 2013, 07:44:36 pm
Holy shit, you addicts. Get a grip!

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130118185949/fallout/images/e/e9/ChemReliant.png)
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 09:58:18 pm
Game server will be migrated to our backup machine back again. I'll post more info when it's ready.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: jacky on November 24, 2013, 10:05:13 pm
so we have new-old-new-old? when it will be more stable?
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: amnesia haze on November 24, 2013, 10:09:16 pm
i think this server is working very well. i have no idea what wrong now, so i just wait for new ip adress. maybe we need just a bigger community, maybe more maps of encounters only or something like this. thank you.



Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 10:11:41 pm
Game server is currently launched on another machine.
To connect, you have to change IP in FOConfig.exe:

31.11.189.128

(http://i.imgur.com/IoDli5Z.png)

Also, lost characters (with nicknames in cyryllics) should work now - I need you to check it.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: sogabe on November 24, 2013, 11:33:17 pm
Thank you devs for all your works.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Strike on November 25, 2013, 06:24:29 am
It just worked perfect with old OS whatever there was :(
You went and reinstall OS, damn really.

I know that it would reduce some euros from the server bill, but is server worth of anything if it can't work?

Edit: And now that backup server crashed too :(
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 25, 2013, 07:00:07 am
Nah, it was shut down by me, it's now available at it's old address:

play.fonline-reloaded.net
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Strike on November 25, 2013, 11:31:39 am
Hmm, good server is stable now. Did you do something special? ;)
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 25, 2013, 11:38:17 am
Yep.

What I still have to do is dealing with those "missing" characters with Russian nicknames so they can be used again, I'll do it later today.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Jake on November 25, 2013, 01:00:59 pm
Kilgore, why the option to register chars with cyrylic in the first place ?
Why you cant force of using normal A-Z letters only. People dont whine abot not including german, french, polish specific letters so the russian for the sake of stability should also use normal letters, not "hieroglyphs" (since Cleopatra died long ago).
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: ElSlayer on November 25, 2013, 01:25:09 pm
Kilgore, why the option to register chars with cyrylic in the first place ?
Why you cant force of using normal A-Z letters only. People dont whine abot not including german, french, polish specific letters so the russian for the sake of stability should also use normal letters, not "hieroglyphs" (since Cleopatra died long ago).
How should I recognize russians to shoot them on sight then?  ;D
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kelin on November 25, 2013, 02:05:18 pm
Kilgore, why the option to register chars with cyrylic in the first place ?
Why you cant force of using normal A-Z letters only. People dont whine abot not including german, french, polish specific letters so the russian for the sake of stability should also use normal letters, not "hieroglyphs" (since Cleopatra died long ago).
I don’t see any reason why registering cyrillic chars shouldn’t be allowed. This game was developed mainly by Russians and has been played by Russians, without them you wouldn’t be playing this game at all. I also have the feeling that over 50% of community are in fact Russians or people who speak Russian fluently. Show some respect and let them have their own alphabet here (btw A-Z letters are enough to chat ingame for German, French or Polish).
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 25, 2013, 02:11:08 pm
Yeah, there is no reason to change it.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Jake on November 25, 2013, 02:47:08 pm
Kilgore, why the option to register chars with cyrylic in the first place ?
Why you cant force of using normal A-Z letters only. People dont whine abot not including german, french, polish specific letters so the russian for the sake of stability should also use normal letters, not "hieroglyphs" (since Cleopatra died long ago).
I don’t see any reason why registering cyrillic chars shouldn’t be allowed. This game was developed mainly by Russians and has been played by Russians, without them you wouldn’t be playing this game at all. I also have the feeling that over 50% of community are in fact Russians or people who speak Russian fluently. Show some respect and let them have their own alphabet here (btw A-Z letters are enough to chat ingame for German, French or Polish).

If you want to build an altair for the russians, then go ahead. I think they socialistic symbols in San Francisco in game are enough for that.
Also, i dont see on the forum the 50% of russian community or in game and therefore, I dont understand why french, germanz, polish and other people CAN communicate ingame with only AZ letters (like you said) and russian can not ? What lol is that ?
I asked about server stability, if the cyrylic is not good for managing the server functions then it shouldnt be keep. Russians have the TLA MK2 so I dont understand your reply Kelin. Im not talking about about changing tla mk2, let it be russian in 100%. Im talking about possible crashes in the other Fonline instance, made by Polish people.

If Kilgore wants to add a chinese letters, then he will do that but right now, there was a reason of managing the cyrylic characters in game so it concerns me.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 25, 2013, 07:34:25 pm
Crashes have nothing to do with such characters.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 25, 2013, 09:23:22 pm
Now I need someone with mentioned chars that he can't log into, so we can do some tests on server clone before I make changes to the actual game server.

If there is someone willing to help me, contact me via PM here or best via IRC channel.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 26, 2013, 02:19:25 am
Tripleposting but whatever.

Characters with names written in cyryllics should work okay now (if they were made before Sunday). Report problems if there are still any.

Big thanks to Kelin for his help in solving this problem.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: jacky on November 26, 2013, 08:33:31 am
what is the reason of crashing server? why we had to switch when it was perfect?
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Strike on November 26, 2013, 09:13:02 am
what is the reason of crashing server? why we had to switch when it was perfect?
Quote
What was done was complete reinstallation of OS on the server machine in order to decrease server costs.
I never going understand this change..
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Kilgore on November 26, 2013, 11:36:26 pm
Different OS - lower price for OS licensing etc.

Prices of dedicated servers are going down, so I think we'll be changing provider in few months. Last configuration change surely wasn't as smooth as I wanted it to be, but it wasn't the worst one either. Several crashes with <10min rollback aren't a catastrophe, the real problem would be if they would continue for days, or if the server was down for longer time, but that's really not an option as I always have a backup server ready to go.

Anyway, for now there are more important things to be done (updates).
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: serath on November 28, 2013, 09:54:24 am
Well, I remember how it looked alike on 2238, Kilgore made it well, belive me people it could be much, much worst.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Crak on December 01, 2013, 12:32:41 am
Well, I remember how it looked alike on 2238, Kilgore made it well, belive me people it could be much, much worst.

Oh God, those constant wipes. It made you wonder why you even bothered to play when you know all your progress would be gone at the end of the year or less...
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Gimper on December 01, 2013, 03:12:09 am
Well, I remember how it looked alike on 2238, Kilgore made it well, belive me people it could be much, much worst.

Oh God, those constant wipes. It made you wonder why you even bothered to play when you know all your progress would be gone at the end of the year or less...

Yeah... *shutters*...  hopefully those suicide mongering things don't exist in this realm......

I don't see any real need for a wipe yet.
Title: Re: Server maintenance.
Post by: Strike on December 04, 2013, 08:57:06 pm
There was earlier today crash on the server (As you see from the server status)
What was reason for this?