FOnline: Reloaded

General => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: KoneserWydalin on November 22, 2013, 02:19:34 am

Title: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: KoneserWydalin on November 22, 2013, 02:19:34 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-RhTzOnJ0w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-RhTzOnJ0w)

Tazar told me that in the Klamath mine for 3 days he is seeing the same 'player' - motoko (or motako, i dont remember) doing all time the same things, not responding, not reacting when stealing stuff from it, pushing it, when being killed 10 time by the same player. We tried some tricks to follow her, check that it is really doing the same loop. It is not usual autoclicker. It responds to changing environment (dissapearing iron vanes, checking how much it is carrying, getting back stuff when it was killed), it detects on what map currently it is.  Comments in the vid will tell you everything. I'v done the same things like in the video few times to be sure it is a bot.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Kaaon on November 22, 2013, 02:28:29 am
wow, why did you created topic about it ? boting is nothing new in mmorpg games, you look so impressed  ::)

its nothing special its just simple bot or script. Its not against rules because they can be easily killed/stealed anyway..

i was doing something smiliar, ~2000 iron ore + ~2000 minerals per hour using 2 scripted "bots" at once in klamath mine while sleeping
so something like 12k+ ore 12k+ minerals every day, i was killed only once in 2 weeks

script / bot like that can be made in few minutes..

9 hours -> (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8117/vfla.png)
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: KoneserWydalin on November 22, 2013, 02:31:40 am
I never saw as much advanced bot in Reloaded.

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they can be easily killed/stealed

Not such much easly when author of this bot will improve kicking party when getting back from the respawn.
But yea, I took all of  it's 10k ore/minerals, and some other stuff.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on November 22, 2013, 02:32:33 am
I thought this was rule breaking

unless in 2238 it was
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Kaaon on November 22, 2013, 02:39:18 am
I never saw as much advanced bot in Reloaded.

i agree its nice to see that peoples can use also other advenced programs than just primitive autoclicker  ;D ;D

I thought this was rule breaking

unless in 2238 it was

http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=4.0 (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=4.0)

there is no way to completely prevent from boting, every mmorpg is fighting with bots and there is also no reason to punish them i think because they can be easily killed for ore and get nothing

edit : Motoko was there for week or two and i also seen Hammy 1 month ago doing same thing except kicking players on wm from party so i followed him into his tent and there was around 40k 10mm ammo and few thousands ore/minerals  :D
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: KestreL on November 22, 2013, 05:05:00 am
This girl you are talking about. Motoko ive seen her before in the mine.

I tagged her when she left to wm and she always kicked me so i waited untle she hit the wm and waited exacly 2.3 seconds then clicked fallow and she went to tent and i stole 10000 iron 10000 metal. She will probably ragequit becuase of this but its only fair.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Strike on November 22, 2013, 06:19:14 am
I heard about bots and autoclickers when 2238 was online :D
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: kill n die on November 22, 2013, 08:00:11 am
It isn't "ilegal" at all,but it kinda makes private mines useless (except the meaning of word "private").
If slaves will have limited carryweight,it would be interesting how it would looks like...
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Letoo on November 22, 2013, 09:52:42 am
Botting should be against the rules if you ask me.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Adams on November 22, 2013, 11:13:06 am
Shes just doin her thang!
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Kirkor on November 22, 2013, 12:24:31 pm

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there is no way to completely prevent from boting, every mmorpg is fighting with bots and there is also no reason to punish them i think because they can be easily killed for ore and get nothing
WTF logic is that?
You defend them, because you are using illegal programs same way they do. Congrats in highest level. Or should I congratulate your bot?
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Kaaon on November 22, 2013, 01:13:03 pm

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there is no way to completely prevent from boting, every mmorpg is fighting with bots and there is also no reason to punish them i think because they can be easily killed for ore and get nothing
WTF logic is that?
You defend them, because you are using illegal programs same way they do. Congrats in highest level. Or should I congratulate your bot?

Seriously ?
Most of my experience is from really very hard grinding and not from crafting. How do you think i got most creatures killed and best doctor ? Im grinding ~15 hour a day. Atm i got 12449 ghouls, 5716 rats, 4681 gecko killed and most of my exp is from caravan cuz im getting like 100k exp per caravan SF <-> new addytum / boneyard cuz that bonus based on lvl is so OP. Im not even boting anymore so stop with that rage plz. Im not defending anyone, why do you think i wanted to nerf private mines when im using them ? Why do you think i dont want any grindfest in this game like hp gain after level 24 when im highest level and why i think crafting bonuses sucks when i farm 15 hours a day ? Its all because i want to keep this server, not to be best in this game.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Strike on November 22, 2013, 01:14:38 pm
BTW be careful now, bots and autoclickers maybe collect some broc flowers :D

Edit: There is anyway better way to get Broc Flowers than with an autoclicker or bot. Steal, but what? ;)
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: caper on November 22, 2013, 07:52:01 pm
not banning botters is a fucking insult to all players that play it straight and work hard to farm their shit themselves. Allowing botters basically tells the rest of us that our efforts are shit. IP Ban and account delete botters whenever seen! Either that or put a bot program on site to download (NOT NOT NOT).

Instead minimize the clicking need, us older gamers get mouse damage over time



That's my 10 cents.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Kaaon on November 22, 2013, 08:02:53 pm
Then kill them and get thier ore, there arent almost any other ways to use bots (i know few other but not much effective) then mining in public mines, but yes, it should be against rules but..
even best companies cant prevent players from boting, almost everyone who know how to use bots is using them.. they are in every single mmorpg, its nothing special anymore in year 2013
every time you are going to play some mmorpg (or multiplayer arpg) be sure there will be bots

and all they can do in fonline is mining in public mines which results in killing them because everyone already know they are boting in klamath mine.. i dont care about them..
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Crak on November 23, 2013, 12:26:45 pm
Then kill them and get thier ore, there arent almost any other ways to use bots (i know few other but not much effective) then mining in public mines, but yes, it should be against rules but..
even best companies cant prevent players from boting, almost everyone who know how to use bots is using them.. they are in every single mmorpg, its nothing special anymore in year 2013
every time you are going to play some mmorpg (or multiplayer arpg) be sure there will be bots

and all they can do in fonline is mining in public mines which results in killing them because everyone already know they are boting in klamath mine.. i dont care about them..

Yeah, but no other game ALLOWS them to be used. Not even EVE Online, which is similar in how much freedom players have to kill and cheat each other. Well maybe not totally similar, safe zones in EVE Online are actually safe!  :P
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: sogabe on November 24, 2013, 09:02:12 am
Bot is lame, period.. is my personal opinion.

To a degree I guess it's understandable, but to become overly rich with it seems pretty unfair considering it's a lot of work to become rich manually in this game.

I'd like the see the GM's opinion on this matter..depending on what's said I might as well start learning how to use bots.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Kilgore on November 24, 2013, 10:12:06 am
Yeah, but no other game ALLOWS them to be used.
Whether I allow it or not makes no difference, botters gonna bot on their 1 lvl chars. As said above the only efficient thing they can do is gathering in private mines, so just kill them and enjoy free loot.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Kaaon on December 20, 2013, 01:15:16 pm
Whether I allow it or not makes no difference, botters gonna bot on their 1 lvl chars. As said above the only efficient thing they can do is gathering in private mines, so just kill them and enjoy free loot.
u probably mean public mines, not private..

there are few other efficent things which can be easily botted, for ex. special encounters in city-urban terrain to find Vertibird, there are no encounters on island but you can still find special encounter (there is only coast and city-urban terrain on islands so only valuable SE which u can get there is old warehouse with vertibird) so all u have to do i primitive clicking bot on left and right side of the zone, your bot will be moving in zone till he will find SE because there arent any normal encounters.. i already found 8 vertibirds (5 of them botted and sold)
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Strike on December 20, 2013, 03:09:39 pm
i already found 8 vertibirds (5 of them botted and sold)
That is quite bad thing, if you can bot special encounters too :/
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Kilgore on December 20, 2013, 07:18:18 pm
I'm aware of it and the fix will come in the next update.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Mighty on December 21, 2013, 01:42:46 pm
i already found 8 vertibirds (5 of them botted and sold)
(http://cs6274.vk.me/u165263132/docs/2a10f6da8c2c/tumblr_m8fklxyIZa1qdmllr_large.gif)
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: amnesia haze on December 21, 2013, 07:27:00 pm
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it is a bot.
oh my... this game is full of bots and exploits, but you dont know this, so you must steal own bases and blame normal people, little piece of sh*t. i see many bad practics in this game, so i know now where we go - what is the direction of this server and reminds me final state of 2238 with unfair game masters, bots, abusers and many stupid things or bad new ideas. ye this is wrong unnormal situation when i cant play normally like i want because some people try to make only DM's named "bbs vs rest". fonline is game for suckers or what. if yes, and you have problem with an understanding of what you're doing wrong, just go play battlefield.
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: NoDriLL on August 01, 2018, 06:26:46 pm


script / bot like that can be made in few minutes..

9 hours -> (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8117/vfla.png)

How can it be done? I wanna know what program do we need to use it! :)
Title: Re: Proof that there are Bots or advanced autoclickers
Post by: Wichura on August 01, 2018, 10:56:10 pm
You are replying to a five years old post from an account that doesn't even exist anymore, you sick necrophile.

Back on 2238 for botting purposes I've been using VMWare Player + Windows XP running on it, with some random autoclicker software (can't remember its name now). Then 2238 died and on FO2 or Reloaded I haven't found a need to use bots (no features for them really), so I didn't bother anymore.