Why this is not in toxic caves yet?
Why this is not in toxic caves yet?
Why would it be? Can't criticize and expect a healthy discussion?
Why this is not in toxic caves yet?
Why this is not in toxic caves yet?
This way this game is headin too, many guys will leave definitly..Some others will come to see what's the crack. The initial hype of "Fallout online zomfg!!111" is already gone with 2009 and the early days of FOnline as such.
This way this game is headin too, many guys will leave definitly..Some others will come to see what's the crack. The initial hype of "Fallout online zomfg!!111" is already gone with 2009 and the early days of FOnline as such.
You are wasting your time. Just adapt or find a game that suits your needs.
You are wasting your time. Just adapt or find a game that suits your needs.Your wasting your time playing this game
I've put in money and effort to support the project and community which we've grown to care about. If the devs don't appreciate feedback then there's nothing any of us here can do about it anyways but Kilgore has stated openly this is a test session so with all due respect man I think it's strange and worrying comments from some of you guys feedback should be in the toxic caves or is a waste of time. It's also been stated if donations run out the server will get taken down.
Thanks for your care.You are wasting your time. Just adapt or find a game that suits your needs.Your wasting your time playing this game
"The thing most of you people fail to realise is that Kilgore stated many times that he doesnt care about pvp people feedback"Has it ever occured to you that they may not be so passionate about you pewpewing or maybe even about the server being the most popular thing in the world? If changes were made to get rid of you,why trying to force your way in? Think about that.
well he should have, because it's mainly PvP players keeping this server alive, making videos, posting on youtube, advertise.
How many PvE videos have you seen lately?
And choose words wisely, because without PvP players you end up with 20 (+30 dual logs) online and then RIP Reloaded like other servers.
I commented Mengs video on yt, I completely agree with everything he mentioned. Not only me, almost all AAs rather play diff games.
"The thing most of you people fail to realise is that Kilgore stated many times that he doesnt care about pvp people feedback"Has it ever occured to you that they may not be so passionate about you pewpewing or maybe even about the server being the most popular thing in the world? If changes were made to get rid of you,why trying to force your way in? Think about that.
well he should have, because it's mainly PvP players keeping this server alive, making videos, posting on youtube, advertise.
How many PvE videos have you seen lately?
And choose words wisely, because without PvP players you end up with 20 (+30 dual logs) online and then RIP Reloaded like other servers.
I commented Mengs video on yt, I completely agree with everything he mentioned. Not only me, almost all AAs rather play diff games.
Those shitty pvp videos from YT are bad advertisement I would say.Yeah, I've read some comments about those. Surprisingly many were like "what the fuck man, this isn't even close to Fallout, some crazy pew-pew-pew shit with no lore or background story whatsoever".
when most of pvp guys and factions leaveSome others will come to fulfill the emptiness, worry not. This might be interesting social experiment actually, to completely revert the playerbase from spoiled brats and crying oldfags to some real fresh uncontaminated blood.
I can't watch video yet coz I am at work. But maybe just give TC back their timers, and enable looting while timer is on. This would show if looting is an issue, with no harm for newbies.Fuck yes, please doo eet! This should finally mute all those cries about pixels and shit. After all the clear mark "do not enter n00b" is already implemented, cities change color during TC. Perfect win-win situation, no more tears. You want to involve yourself into fight and risk gear - you're welcome. Don't - stay in your tent or something.
On the side of nerfing farms just because most of you already fed up with goodies they give i would say fuck you and if get nerf it should get it after server wipe, equal opportunity it is called.A perfect example of being a pure dickhead, must I say: "now since I've sucked bazillions out of it you can nerf it, I don't care".
And at the end, the most clever one Wichura who crawled out of the cave and is now the biggest smartass in the wasteland. With 8 Str 3 luck sniper build who enjoy pve content only (don't have to ask why)And you are ... ?
Is the youtube efforts appreciated or considered to drive people away?Looking at pvp big fights without any editing its freaking boring, fonline is not soo good loking for 2nd party
Is the donations unnecessary since it doesn't impact the development of the game or will the server go black when it runs out of donations?
Is the youtube efforts appreciated or considered to drive people away?Looking at pvp big fights without any editing its freaking boring, fonline is not soo good loking for 2nd party
Is the donations unnecessary since it doesn't impact the development of the game or will the server go black when it runs out of donations?
You have donation info topic
Is the youtube efforts appreciated or considered to drive people away?Looking at pvp big fights without any editing its freaking boring, fonline is not soo good loking for 2nd party
Is the donations unnecessary since it doesn't impact the development of the game or will the server go black when it runs out of donations?
You have donation info topic
I watch other teams videos and put alot of effort into editing pvp videos myself, last video Reloaded S3 PVP Vol. 4 covered 10 fights in 5 minutes. Mantis tutorial videos has thousands of views and you dare attack the reloaded youtubers?
Please go on and answer my questions about donations and gamedesign with your own words this is no hostile wordfencing we are many who are invested in the community and genuinely worried, be professional.
TO ALL OTHER FACTIONS
how about a week of truce/no tc, we just put the full brunt of our power into attacking the pve players and bombing the hub?
I'm getting mixed signals here...Keep in mind im not speaking for kilgore or anybody from the dev team.Just stating my observations.
Is this a testsession where feedback is appreciated or is the game now purposely designed to rid the server of the pvpapes?
Here really depends what is considered as a feedback. Things like "Them and them stopped playing because no loot or no hex" most likely arent. About the pvp playerbase,everyone knew that hardcore pvp grinders wouldnt like it and that they might quit.Yet its got implemented.Which means they arent aiming for hardcore pvp playerbase. What the reason may be? Who knows,but their game,their rules,their reasons.
Is the youtube efforts appreciated or considered to drive people away?
The number of views and likes indicates how each and every video is appreciated i think.
Is the donations unnecessary since it doesn't impact the development of the game or will the server go black when it runs out of donations?
If people wanna play the game im afraid donations are necessary.But it doesnt mean you can "buy" features or "blackmail" the devteam. Yes im afraid if server runs out of money itll go black,unless Kilgore pays for it outta his own pocket which i find unlikely.
Would really like a clarification to these 3 questions before discussing this subject further.
Counting dual logs etc. PvP players IN MY HONEST OPINION makes at least 1/2 of current server's population.And thats your opinion but truth is way different, most of server population are nessies. Im pretty sure right now everyone is online and they made half of population yes? Oh wait...
All faction, oh wow one faction maybe 2? Damn son you are more tard than i though oh wait khans, thats nothing new.
You are too young to know wichura, I know wichuj have opinion of pedo but he don't touch kids like you
I still don't see any constructive shit here only whine
fonline, fonline never change
Constructive stuff
Pointing out stuff and saying I don't like it and thats it
Indeed its constructive as fuck :D
Dreff i like y thinking but what is pourpose of bounty if fucker dont loose nothing? ;D
well said
Keep denying the facts which people shove up your face and this server will vanish in due time. S2 was almost dead and S3 came up with only worse changes you could've imagined instead of what people expected of Kilgore AND offered for him to change.
For pertex one song ;D
https://youtu.be/wJVpihgwE18
Those shitty videos?lol u so right. im thinking same thing. like who the fuck are those guys? and how they got so obsessed to argue with 24/7 players?
Guys if you just count views from all videos together (Mantis', Mengelito's, Trooper's, Kompre's, other) you get a nice total. And I bet these brought more players than your senseless posts.
Perteks and his issues with TKs .. - see post from TKs and immediately post shit about tears, salt & toxicity. It's so LASHy.
Btw, even a non-edited video is better than your "NONE" PvE content.
Adams claim Kilgore's intention is to get rid of PvP. If you really think so, go to a doc.
I can't wait until the day Kilgore repeat to all ya scrubs that this was fucked up BETA season and we start looting you again. Making my name-priority list now.
And at the end, the most clever one Wichura who crawled out of the cave and is now the biggest smartass in the wasteland. With 8 Str 3 luck sniper build who enjoy pve content only (don't have to ask why)
Constructive stuff
Pointing out stuff and saying I don't like it and thats it
Indeed its constructive as fuck :D
What's not constructive about Seki's post? Do you understand what constructive criticism is?
Constructive stuff
Pointing out stuff and saying I don't like it and thats it
Indeed its constructive as fuck :D
What's not constructive about Seki's post? Do you understand what constructive criticism is?
Like I said, it wasn't constructive it was just normal feedback.
He pointed out tc that he don't like it and not working like he though its gonna be because there is no good loot and its boring. and cry gib back old tc ok very constructive
No loot killed NR because it was always about high risk high reward, there is no reward. Where is constructive feedback here? I would say that if he suggested NR could be that one loot town then it could be something, but you know Kilgore said that there will be full loot location
PvP players are mayority of whinners here they don't know a shit about balancing most of times they only care about they precious 5 dmg like you said.
Long dialogues in quest and a lot of fluff... if you want go fetch and kill stuff without any fluff go play bethesada games. Not sure why he even write it here, nobody make you do quests. Only problem here is that its ease to lost track of quest because of how bugged questlist is right now.
Where in that you have constructive feedback, most of it is I don't like it change it back, why are you ignoring me.
Yes its painfull sometimes how suggestion or bug reports can be ignored but thats not because its from you or anyone other. Shit happens deal with it and pester devs more :D
From what I got about new TC, you guys all think about it as old TC where you go there kill everything loot and run away. Where right now its you get profit when somebody use workbench or npc/merchant there. But you know kill on sight everything not gonna help it. If you think you are so good then try make old Redding project
Perteks who the fuck are u ? do u even play? gtfo :facepalm tousand ppl pointing shit out here, but u obsessed af to argue.. cmon man go get some vodka, relax etc.
only shit cryier is u here, just look at ur fucking wiki its outdated for tousands years .
if you dont know perteks then you havent played fonline for long. old bbs tc player
For pertex one song ;D
https://youtu.be/wJVpihgwE18
omg, your my new fav fonline person!
Khan we be friends? lol
if you dont know perteks then you havent played fonline for long. old bbs tc player
if you dont know perteks then you havent played fonline for long. old bbs tc playerand ppl like this argue here lol ;D its just seems like fat trolling...
I would rather say they are bored of FOnline in general not Reloaded, just like I am.well can't tell for any of them. there is still some on fo2 and some on reloaded (atleast they leveled and did couple tcs)
no hex- easiest counter to hexbots plague, promote more teamplay less rambo and less exploiting idiotic ai of npc to burst in doorway or anything like that. Its Ok in my book, I will miss rambo hexing in NR and other shit but something for something. And less skill needed for it, hahaha thats biggest bullshit you like to say, teamplay is skill shooting close give around 2/3 of original one hex, yeah well lol you can't now onehex somebody who was little distracted damn son. One hex was always strange mechanic
From what I got about new TC, you guys all think about it as old TC where you go there kill everything loot and run away. Where right now its you get profit when somebody use workbench or npc/merchant there. But you know kill on sight everything not gonna help it. If you think you are so good then try make old Redding project
No editing and giving mostly shitting music, rly guy you think thats good vids?
Want to see good video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64yTOlDgTeY&list=FL6aZp4Vg82Q-wCchd_HbbuA here it is
No editing and giving mostly shitting music, rly guy you think thats good vids?
Want to see good video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64yTOlDgTeY&list=FL6aZp4Vg82Q-wCchd_HbbuA here it is
i seen several better and same level videos lol
wow, preach mantis, droppin truth bombs!
I am not rage quitting. I am just really upset and I am not going to play anymore.
TKs-Mantis(off)
I hope you do have fun and find joy in Reloaded. I wish it no harm, I just can't take the bullshit no more. I hope everyone here has a great time with gaming, that is what it is all about.I am not rage quitting. I am just really upset and I am not going to play anymore.
TKs-Mantis(off)
xD
anyway I understand you 100% Mantis, I just found a new joy in reloaded, but it will get bored in a day or two, maybe its time to move on
TKs REAL NAME NO GIMMICKS
If you would ask me personally, I think that the biggest problem that we have today is the lack of players. And this issue was created by a lot of little other issues. I believe we could find solutions to solve this problem but apparently people that disagree with us think that it's not necessary.
If we listen to them there are no problems, everything goes fine now in FOnline. These people are clearly lying to themselves and are not ready to hear our solutions.
If you would ask me personally, I think that the biggest problem that we have today is the lack of players. And this issue was created by a lot of little other issues. I believe we could find solutions to solve this problem but apparently people that disagree with us think that it's not necessary."omg ded gaem!!!!111" (c) 2238 since 2009
You don't understand simple things and live in alternate reality, so I'm not going to waste more time by replying to you.I can't blame that man.
TO ALL PVP FACTIONS, I PROPOSE TRUCE FOR ONE WEEK.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwt6-w_TQJA
KHANS WILL NOT DO TC, AND WE HOPE NO OTHERS WILL EITHER.
INSTEAD WE WILL RAID HUB NON-STOP.
BOMB AND SHOOT ANYTHING WITHOUT A KNOWN PVP/TC FACTION TAG.
PVP VS PVE RACE WAR HAS BEGUN.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361198941435330565/369635430863470604/unknown.png)Why inst this in toxic caves yet?
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How to be tard by khans. You know there is different way to suggest and discus with devs especially when you have better way to contact themp
no hex- easiest counter to hexbots plague, promote more teamplay less rambo and less exploiting idiotic ai of npc to burst in doorway or anything like that. Its Ok in my book, I will miss rambo hexing in NR and other shit but something for something. And less skill needed for it, hahaha thats biggest bullshit you like to say, teamplay is skill shooting close give around 2/3 of original one hex, yeah well lol you can't now onehex somebody who was little distracted damn son. One hex was always strange mechanic
becuase I really hate suggestions of guys who didnt play PvP much and have the most to say about current situation
Cringe video with cringe commentsye devs made whole new session with shit tone of stuff. but some little canges like hp of mobs, looting enemies etc its like impossible to rollback? :facepalmno1 cry forget this word. ppl just ask to have some changes in game they like, thats it. its not like u who just came to forum once in a year and posted once about how community suck and devs are good. get outta here
i heard you already moved to other server so why bother ?? And made ur own server too
P.s i wonder if u would have any motivation left to write a single line in a script if u were a fonline dev, while the community is filled with toxic crybabies like TKS and rest pvp masters who cant get a beter thing 2 do in their life than spam a dead games forum and ruin it even more
ok since these are nerfed i have a question to devs)) how do you expect us to lvl up?
withut hexing its almost impossible to kill anything that worth the exp
quesets which give good exp were nerfed (of course only after ppl make 100+ lvl chars from dem)
rest of quests give ridicoulusly low amount of exp e.g in sf you have to kill 4-5 raiders with 2000HP and they give 750xp and finishing the quest is 3000 exp
i like hardcore but this is not hardcore just pure retarded sorry
Cringe video with cringe comments
i heard you already moved to other server so why bother ?? And made ur own server too
P.s i wonder if u would have any motivation left to write a single line in a script if u were a fonline dev, while the community is filled with toxic crybabies like TKS and rest pvp masters who cant get a beter thing 2 do in their life than spam a dead games forum and ruin it even more
decide if u wanna play on a server with 50 players or a server with 1000
also reevaluate your life if noloot is ur bigest problem
you know PVP GODS liek you used to tell noobs "wasteland is harsh"
but now it seems that its the opposite. noobs are telling YOU the same thing. its harsh for you to get used to changes that actually help the game grow ;] very unfortunate. how about playing something else
U r literally narrow minded. Good rp there fam
game is ded for other reasons than loot and hexing
I dont like pointless ninja nerfs without notify
and yah i think that supposedly adult people crying over this game is pretty much cringe
just see 6 pages in 2 days
1 video and 1 post and while some people are bringing SOMETHING to the conversation rest are being nothing but terrible comedians over here. Perteks, the literal lash 2.0, his posts should be the ones landing in Toxic Caves instead of posts providing VALID points about the state of the game, Adams and Wichura trying to furiously defend the game (for whatever reason) while making themselves look like a bunch of idiots and jobany is just being an actual retard.
Meng and Seki brought good points to the table and it started to look like a legit discussion until professional retards turned it into toxic shit slinging show while being completely clueless. Good job.
Good luck on bombing Hub, boys! o/
Preteks, I know you're angry that your toes on your feet are webbed together from the incest relationship between your parents.
But I dont think you need to take it out on us, just off hop the thread considering you are not only no use to this discussion BUT also to this community. Do us all a favor and ~eventsuicide.
By the way, searched your name up on google and found a picture of you.
(https://s1.postimg.org/91ytg46p5b/IMG_9369.jpg)
As soon as Reloaded wiped I saw all the issues with it and transferred to Fonline 2 immediately. In my opinion, Fonline 2 is superior in every way. But what makes the game even better is the fact that the admins are ACTIVE, and CARE about their community. Kilgore doesnt care about his game, he doesnt care about his community, I dont even think he cares about himself.
I have a theory, I believe Kilgore is suicidal. If you think about it this makes sense. Reloaded was by far his greatest achievement. So he needs to kill it, before he can end his own life. Once Reloaded finally really does die, so will he.
#itsnotworthitkillgore
#fuckreloaded
as for that bitch with the bitch for an avatar. (and i used to breed and train german shepards-i know a bitch when i see one) im guessing you dont play reloaded anymore.Your assumption is incorrect, kind sir. I play video games ... wait for it ... casually, as I don't have enough time to
whats my reasoning?
well all day today, pvp factions were bombing and pk'ing in hub. the tears from the scrubs and pve'er's alike rained down so heavy, even the respawn areas were full of tears..
guess you were nowhere to be seen..maybe you were busy doing a quest or something?
Ok Wichura I ll just ask you a simple question to make you understand my point. Try to be sincere ok ?Based on this (https://fodev.net/status/server/reloaded/) I can say first of all there was never 460 players online at once. Second - average of 100 characters is here for ages, same goes for FOnline2 (which as I've read it somewhere in this thread is considered a mature and finely tuned server - warms my heart, as I've had something to do with it). Last but not least - when you've seen a player ragequitting (and I mean a random newcomer, n00b if you prefer), have you asked him/her the reasons? I find recent changes the most significant when it comes to rebuilding a playerbase, with more aim towards mature casuals rather than spoiled brats demanding for whatnot, because they've donated a few bucks. And again this sentence can be found on forum among Kilgore's posts (https://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=12602.msg104065#msg104065).
You gave me a link where Kilgore told me that devs did a bit of advertisement and that quickly the server had up to 460 players ! Wow, great, awesome.
My question is this : Where are they now ?
Ahh now we are around 100 ? Even last season we had more players. Don't you think going from 460 players to 100 is a failure in a sense ? So but in your opinion it is not ? Everything is fine ?
Also I think that is a bit pretentious to say that anytime we could get more people by advertising, I mean get them playing for a bit is thing. Keeping them is another thing.So this seems to be a preparations for spreading the good word. Step one - remove toxicity.
In my opinion advertisement by word of mouth is the best advertisement and is good enough if your game is good ( for the size of a FOnline server).
I have problems about people that are saying that there are NO PROBLEMS and everything is fine now, wake up please. We lost 360 players since the beginning of reloaded.Personally I dislike these brown-nosers too. The only feedback worse than "great job devs, thanks for nerfing the shit shoveling" is crying about how shitty the ded gaem is.
Vast majority of it you can find on FOnline2.
Some other fun draft concepts that could save the game:
-All resources should be bottle necked; and publicly accessible, PVP enabled. No private mines or farms.
-Single location Resource spawns, to encourage players to group play to gather/craft.
-Car sales at one location, stores limited.
-Yes their can be NPC guards in some areas; lots if/as necessary; but not this unlimited spawn off the map a dozen at a time and shoot players crap.
-Make crafted weapons awesome; over their non crafted counterparts.
-Reduce map size, or make sections require better gear/perks/radiation-resistance to travel through; which also have much more challenging encounters
-Make stores and towns extremely heavily guarded but with some lootable/raidable vendors/stores.
-Enable stealing. But give victim ability to shoot culprit when caught; with a notification instructing them that they can
-Enable lockable/unlockable doors at all but hub location
-Enable use of Cars ability to leave in TB
-Hub is fine as safe zone.
-Enable PVE events/scripts, where towns get attacked by mutants or raiders; and players can participate in attack or defense.
-If you kill someone with worse karma, your karma goes up, if you kill someone with better karma, your karma goes down.
-If you have bad karma - Hubcops or bounty hunters, by the dozen; track you and your friends down.
-Karma reset expensive
-Enable NPC guarding purchase. IE you can hire hub cops to travel with or meet you at locations to protect your for X amount of time.
-Create an ultimate endgame goal that can be achieved by X,Y,Z, events; after X amount of time has passed; or other events have been completed. Make it extremely challenging. Something like fighting 100 APA enclave in RT; in close quarters on the oil rig; so as to get to and kill Frank Horrigan. Upon completion; Playerbase gets one week to vote for soft wipe or 3 month extension.
Vast majority of it you can find on FOnline2.
Some other fun draft concepts that could save the game:
-All resources should be bottle necked; and publicly accessible, PVP enabled. No private mines or farms.
-Single location Resource spawns, to encourage players to group play to gather/craft.
-Car sales at one location, stores limited.
-Yes their can be NPC guards in some areas; lots if/as necessary; but not this unlimited spawn off the map a dozen at a time and shoot players crap.
-Make crafted weapons awesome; over their non crafted counterparts.
-Reduce map size, or make sections require better gear/perks/radiation-resistance to travel through; which also have much more challenging encounters
-Make stores and towns extremely heavily guarded but with some lootable/raidable vendors/stores.
-Enable stealing. But give victim ability to shoot culprit when caught; with a notification instructing them that they can
-Enable lockable/unlockable doors at all but hub location
-Enable use of Cars ability to leave in TB
-Hub is fine as safe zone.
-Enable PVE events/scripts, where towns get attacked by mutants or raiders; and players can participate in attack or defense.
-If you kill someone with worse karma, your karma goes up, if you kill someone with better karma, your karma goes down.
-If you have bad karma - Hubcops or bounty hunters, by the dozen; track you and your friends down.
-Karma reset expensive
-Enable NPC guarding purchase. IE you can hire hub cops to travel with or meet you at locations to protect your for X amount of time.
-Create an ultimate endgame goal that can be achieved by X,Y,Z, events; after X amount of time has passed; or other events have been completed. Make it extremely challenging. Something like fighting 100 APA enclave in RT; in close quarters on the oil rig; so as to get to and kill Frank Horrigan. Upon completion; Playerbase gets one week to vote for soft wipe or 3 month extension.
[badum-tss]
Its simple,you like it you play. You dont like it you dont play. There is nothing you can do to adjust the game to suit your needs.
No matter how hard you gonna bomb the hub:d
dont switch the real bbs with fo2 bbsI would rather say they are bored of FOnline in general not Reloaded, just like I am.well can't tell for any of them. there is still some on fo2 and some on reloaded (atleast they leveled and did couple tcs)
Damn shame the thread with so many good posts that engaged so many was moved here instead of having it's posts moderated.But said posts look similiar over and over since the beginning of this session, and moaning about dying game is dated back to 2009, when first session of 2238 has been launched. Nihil novi sub sole. It's not even funny anymore to see people over 16 producing walls of text because "their" game has changed in a way it doesn't suit them, thinking they have the only right to speak out loud because they've donated some caps, participated in some in-game activity or marked their characters with icons and colors.
Real BBS plays FO2.
tard spilling out of shitbuckethttps://youtu.be/_n5E7feJHw0
Real BBS plays FO2.
Don't talk about things you have no idea.
I have very good insight how things actually are, be happy I don't go all in.
I have very good insight how things actually are, be happy I don't go all in.
Delightful
Wouldn't see any difference between them and you then whats problem is here?I have very good insight how things actually are, be happy I don't go all in.
Delightful
Your welcome. Good luck in your coming fights vs. the brahminhood of shit and da uber muscle boyz, sure it's gonna be epic.
Wouldn't see any difference between them and you then whats problem is here?I have very good insight how things actually are, be happy I don't go all in.
Delightful
Your welcome. Good luck in your coming fights vs. the brahminhood of shit and da uber muscle boyz, sure it's gonna be epic.
Wouldn't see any difference between them and you then whats problem is here?I have very good insight how things actually are, be happy I don't go all in.
Delightful
Your welcome. Good luck in your coming fights vs. the brahminhood of shit and da uber muscle boyz, sure it's gonna be epic.
Wouldn't see any difference between them and you then whats problem is here?
Challenge it's called. Challenge my friend.
You, gecko hunters, are no challenge at all.
Challenge? In what that they will have only slighty lower number than you have, I think its only that because skill level haha no :D
(http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/mr_chang_senor_chang_laugh_spits_milk.gif)Challenge? In what that they will have only slighty lower number than you have, I think its only that because skill level haha no :D
Let me tell you something, dickwad. Hawks first came to Reloaded and we were doing TC around the same time. They hopped in. They were like 10 to 12, we were like 7. We died with no casualties. Believe it or not, I don't care this way or another.
That's about the challenge.
I bet if your old bbs were there 20v7 we'd still win cuz you'd fail to focus fire and would've had bad builds.
Whatever, talking to this prick has no touch in it. Nor any sense to do so imho.
Enjoy the ruins of once good and interesting server.
Let me tell you something, dickwad. Hawks first came to Reloaded and we were doing TC around the same time. They hopped in. They were like 10 to 12, we were like 7. We died with no casualties. Believe it or not, I don't care this way or another.
That's about the challenge.
I bet if your old bbs were there 20v7 we'd still win cuz you'd fail to focus fire and would've had bad builds.
Whatever, talking to this prick has no touch in it. Nor any sense to do so imho.
Enjoy the ruins of once good and interesting server.
Wichura -Correct.
you're a dumbass.
You're blaming us for repeating our concerns yet 95% of your posts are the same information over and over again ("god damn ded geam since 2009", "cry moar")..Yeah, because you seem to be unable to read and learn. If facts are different, you say "too bad for facts, my opinion matters". Nope.
Nobody ever said we have the only right to speak but we are the ONLY ones who do so.Is that so?
And at the end, the most clever one Wichura who crawled out of the cave and is now the biggest smartass in the wasteland. With 8 Str 3 luck sniper build who enjoy pve content only (don't have to ask why)
So you are basically saying - enjoy this server, let it be your favorite one but shut the fuck up if something get changed and you don't like it.I say - do whatever you want as grown men do. Don't read what you want to read, but read what is written.
It's like I told you that you married your boyfriend in 2005 (not sure if it's allowed in Poland) so ffs like him the same way and keep your mouth shut until the end even if he changed completely (behavior).He is not my boyfriend, it's just plain filthy faggot brutal sexual intercourses we have once in a while. U jelly?
We all know this game is for free and up to devs to decide what do with it, but nobody can prevent us in providing a feedback. On top of that a feedback from most active players from the server. It is odd that this always end up in rivers of tears even though it contains very important and constructive messages from majority of most active players - but I get it, you & perteks (brown noses) screwed it.Okay, so you've provided a feedback, licked each other butts ("well said mate!", "great post dude!", "tasty dick there pal!"), but as usual made a terrible mistake considering yourself the majority of players though. We've had this discussion many times already. It's painful for your overboosted ego and not pleasant to realise, but factions are not the core of any popular FOnline server I've get an info from or had tools to check it myself. This surprised me as well, no worries.
Just get over your autism and stop repeating yourself all the time - this post was not a simple "no loot, no hex ewww shit server", it was a nicely provided feedback about what's going on for real.Yeah, some people move on to another games, some people come to see what's this FOnline stuff all about.
Now that most of PvP players are gone you see what the hell is going on on the server. I logged yesterday just to see:- PvE factions (whatever that is) are PvE, obviously not interested in PvP activities.
* nobody is taking towns (3 days already) - even though PvE factions do have best opportunity now.
* Hub almost empty (saw 5 players at best from what 1 was a newbie) - so are other towns.
* 90 active game windows online.
* killed random 30 lvl scrub in the wasteland and he cried to death even though he lost nothing but 12% armor+weapon deteo + ~1500xp.
* radio channel is more toxic than lash's scratching.
* barters do have money (means everyone's either fingering their ass at their farms or nobody really care?)
Remember, you stupid ass, that the one who provides feedback do really care about the future.Great, but what do you expect now to happen? Back-seat driving while developing a FOnline game is a horrible idea, luckily when FO2 was under construction we've had commanders with clear vision and road map, almost like nazi organization of some sort. Suggestions are nice to have option, but if they are against the developers' idea, they will be discarded. This is how it works, my son, been there, done that.
FO2 is an option but you don't want to leave a server that's so deep in your heart without a "fight".No idea which server you have in mind, but the only one that warms my disgusting soul and black heart is FO2, simply because I've had the best fun there so far. Current state of Reloaded I'd call ... interesting.
1 video and 1 post and while some people are bringing SOMETHING to the conversation rest are being nothing but terrible comedians over here. Perteks, the literal lash 2.0, his posts should be the ones landing in Toxic Caves instead of posts providing VALID points about the state of the game, Adams and Wichura trying to furiously defend the game (for whatever reason) while making themselves look like a bunch of idiots and jobany is just being an actual retard.
Meng and Seki brought good points to the table and it started to look like a legit discussion until professional retards turned it into toxic shit slinging show while being completely clueless. Good job.
Good luck on bombing Hub, boys! o/
I came here to eat comments and read popcorn but... Unfortunately I see something that is kinda repeatable pattern here, that after watching video and reading posts from Meng, Seki and Mantis I was really hopeful not to see. It is Khans being khans on forum, just to win the Trolling Rat Race. You see, You met with more or less on point crtisism of the thread, and all the sudden gang comes up to do stupis AF shit, like f.e Donnie showing up with his very fucking constructive critisism...Preteks, I know you're angry that your toes on your feet are webbed together from the incest relationship between your parents.
Seriously? C'mon even You can do better than that.But I dont think you need to take it out on us, just off hop the thread considering you are not only no use to this discussion BUT also to this community. Do us all a favor and ~eventsuicide.
By the way, searched your name up on google and found a picture of you.
(https://s1.postimg.org/91ytg46p5b/IMG_9369.jpg)
Yeah first of all. Him not doing PvP does not make him "no use to discussion" over game changes, and most definitely "to this community". Most non PvP players do not use forum they use discord, and You would know that if you were not stubborn enough to get banned there.
Second of all... "~eventsuicide" Really? C'mon even You can do better than that.
Third of all this picture...
Are you fucking kidding me? C'mon even You can do better than that.As soon as Reloaded wiped I saw all the issues with it and transferred to Fonline 2 immediately. In my opinion, Fonline 2 is superior in every way. But what makes the game even better is the fact that the admins are ACTIVE, and CARE about their community. Kilgore doesnt care about his game, he doesnt care about his community, I dont even think he cares about himself.
If after wipe You went straight to other server and think it is superior in every way doesn't this make YOU "not only no use to this discussion BUT also to this community."?I have a theory, I believe Kilgore is suicidal. If you think about it this makes sense. Reloaded was by far his greatest achievement. So he needs to kill it, before he can end his own life. Once Reloaded finally really does die, so will he.
#itsnotworthitkillgore
#fuckreloaded
Your weird suicide fetish is a bit disturbing to be honest I think You should visit a doctor.
Now to the point, find a middle ground on Your solutions to the issue coz otherwise you will find a wall of non PvP players that will disagree. It means always threads with some thought going viral to end up in toxic caves.
Peace
the current dev team just sticks their head in the sandFlawless victory then, you've won with devs making them to hide from you. Congratulations!
the current dev team just sticks their head in the sandFlawless victory then, you've won with devs making them to hide from you. Congratulations!
Oh, sorry then, I'm afraid I've lost a plot with all that dick-swinging competition going on recently.the current dev team just sticks their head in the sandFlawless victory then, you've won with devs making them to hide from you. Congratulations!
What are you even talking about?
Ive been wanting the devs to do something positive (not just coming out of their caves to ban people) for the past 2 years. Theres no victory here, its just sad.
change my personal text to "I like to cry in the forums"That wasn't a lie actually.
The devs just need to listen to the communityWhy?
Maybe this will sound akward but can now, when all cards are on the table, post pic with Jovanka tits.Waiting that for ages now.
The devs just need to listen to the communityWhy?
http://riget.info/reloaded/playerStats.php?r=month&s=1508384458&ts=0&ar=0&step=7
You know you are really retarded taking info from your ass
You mean that averge six that probably ragecryquitted aka khans :>? I can say that improvement in quality over quantityhttp://riget.info/reloaded/playerStats.php?r=month&s=1508384458&ts=0&ar=0&step=7
You know you are really retarded taking info from your ass
You lost your mind completely?
I took the data exactly from there. You can't deny the decrease, the RAPID decrease in number of players.
I took the data exactly from there. You can't deny the decrease, the RAPID decrease in number of players.Obviously you've missed a link provided before in this thread (https://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=12602.msg104065#msg104065) explaining you why there's no answer about player count going down "issue". Right or wrong, it's not up to me or you to decide.
I took two months day by day (average numbers), put a trendline to it & compared with Fo2 numbers. Fo2's trendline is continual, it tends to go up slightly (nowadays even more since PvP factions are moving over there).
But Reloaded's trendline is going down like an eagle once he spot his prey.
You & Wichura are the only shittalkers here, you are denying the numbers given to you with proof and claiming it's not real and we're taking it out from our arses yet you two are the only guys who claim something without any data proof.I'm way older than 18 but I'm not blind, no need for such big font. Neither I deny data you provided.
You want Reloaded to stay as it now, because you know that all the players are going to quitBravo thinktank! Ya know, the rapid decline in player numbers may be all the pvp gods quitting and then leaving the fresh players who are not completely braindead as u r. So, basically, nothing wrong with the numbers ))
I have leaked information on next updates,
Flames will now shoot rainbow animations,
There will be a guy npc on respawn locations who give out hugs to the pve players after they die.
Hello kitty skin available in barbers
New map location added with huge fire place, for players to meet and holds hands, sing songs like kumbaya my lord.
No pvp players can now only hugs when interaction,
New tc system, you must play tag and run around last one tagged looses tc
I have leaked information on next updates,
Flames will now shoot rainbow animations,
There will be a guy npc on respawn locations who give out hugs to the pve players after they die.
Hello kitty skin available in barbers
New map location added with huge fire place, for players to meet and holds hands, sing songs like kumbaya my lord.
No pvp players can now only hugs when interaction,
New tc system, you must play tag and run around last one tagged looses tc
You forgot that guns are being replaced with water guns and rocket launchers/grenade launchers will be water balloon launchers since server will be a pool party for the 10 players that will remain by then.
Oh FFS stop fueling it. I gave You an option on forst pages. allow drop on timer in TC towns, but no one but Wichura even respond to that. In my opinion it means You lads are willing to leave "home serve" coz You can not harras noobs here. This is pathetic.
I have leaked information on next updates,
Flames will now shoot rainbow animations,
There will be a guy npc on respawn locations who give out hugs to the pve players after they die.
Hello kitty skin available in barbers
New map location added with huge fire place, for players to meet and holds hands, sing songs like kumbaya my lord.
No pvp players can now only hugs when interaction,
New tc system, you must play tag and run around last one tagged looses tc
I have leaked information on next updates,
Flames will now shoot rainbow animations,
There will be a guy npc on respawn locations who give out hugs to the pve players after they die.
Hello kitty skin available in barbers
New map location added with huge fire place, for players to meet and holds hands, sing songs like kumbaya my lord.
No pvp players can now only hugs when interaction,
New tc system, you must play tag and run around last one tagged looses tc
Confirmed! ETA tomorrow! Be there! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_ribbon
Note: If the patch is not ready for tomorrow, do not worry, there will be a whole year to prepare for next time.
Oh FFS stop fueling it. I gave You an option on forst pages. allow drop on timer in TC towns, but no one but Wichura even respond to that. In my opinion it means You lads are willing to leave "home serve" coz You can not harras noobs here. This is pathetic.
I hope Reloaded's developers have common sense and see what is a bug and what is a good feature.
I finally found why, it is simply because you don't want reloaded to leave this shitty current state. You want Reloaded to stay as it now, because you know that all the players are going to quit and then what will happen ? Some of them will completely quit, but some of them will join Fonline2 ! And since you worked for fonline 2 in the past as you said yourself it becomes clear as daylight mate.Bullseye! Bingo! Touche! You've got me on that one, but please, don't tell anyone. It's going to be our dirty little secret, my silent sabotage job here.
P. S Awgy is salty he has a failed faction from reason stated aboveDue to retarded 2238 legacy here on Reloaded I've had to make a character, make him to start a faction only for the sake of buying a base. Can I be as cool as other "faction guys" now, pretty please?
P. S Awgy is salty he has a failed faction from reason stated aboveDue to retarded 2238 legacy here on Reloaded I've had to make a character, make him to start a faction only for the sake of buying a base. Can I be as cool as other "faction guys" now, pretty please?
Dude you must make a faction, recruit few players and keep spamming the forum saying your elite and be real serious about it, then everyone disbands, then you must join another faction but say your still in the faction you created in the beginning even though your wearing other tags,Too much hassle, I'll shoot some geckos instead.
Then make a recruitment post pretend you have members even though you don't, after that try and be cool and hardcore I'm so clever ego, quote everyone in sections when you reply to there single post (thinking u being clever) then you must cry about it because no one gives a fuck about what you have said or even responded.
If you need examples look up Awgy he tends to do this often bro, I wish I was like him man he's like the coolest player here 8)
Says a lot about the status of the Reloaded community
Interesting that the River of tears has the two most popular threads on the site at the moment. Tucked away in a near hidden corner.
I think it goes without saying... Says a lot about the status of the Reloaded community
It has always been like that. To be honest I dont understand how they can keep developping a game they find boring, with a community they make fun of, and that they dont play.This is exactly the bullshit I've heard being a
Each time you post a suggestion, you get all the trolls and litteral autists with 0 social interaction that say "you cry" or "do it yourself". And of course those who exploit broken stuff and dont want anything to change.95% of said suggestions is random crap, abusable to fuck, without throughout thinking for more than 5 seconds, posted by people with no common sense or all of this at once.
Those are the famous "internet trolls". Pathetic losers that profit of internet to make their useless opinion no one care about IRL count by annoying others online.
I have my theory about online trolls, i think they get dumped and people make fun of them all of the time IRL, so they take their revenge by doing the same thing protected behind their computer screen. Since their life is total garbage, they must ruin hobbies of others for their own satisfaction.As a high-tech troll crafted with finest advanced trollymers and quality trolloys I must inform, my good man, you are totally wrong.
There is no Dev, even on free project that dont listen to the community this is just suicide.There is no dev that does everything what the community tells him to do. It just cannot work.
That is my insight, their are tons of modders doing amazing stuff for free on the internet.None of those guys are to be seen in threads related to how shitty the ded gaem is. I wonder why, do you?
Look at uruk hai who mapped, corosive who wrote, mousecz who did tons of new anims.
All of that was for free as well.
Example: Removing one hex because some morons used HEXBOT or autoclickers to aim is just penalizing all players because a few douchebags (always the same) cheat.Morons never change and they will find one way or another.
Its always the same people and you know who is always abusing cheating and stuff. They migrate from server to server and they even dare to post suggestions.
Is there really no way to get rid of those guys?Remove hexing, remove hexboters. Save the cheerleader, save the world.
You cannot IP ban them ?Proxies.
Delete their chars ?They make new ones.
Add reward for people denunciating their new chars if they use proxy?Witchhunting and Spanish Inquisition climate.
Is it possible to actually ask the community before doing such huge impact changes instead of a few old players that dont play anymore?Who are you to decide which opinion matters more?
This is only what those guys are asking to be honest I didnt see anything disrespectful.Those guys are demanding, offensive, use gay/urmomma miserable jokes and just rage like teenagers. I wouldn't consider their voice at all, but hey, I'm a terrible cunt so don't mind me.
But maybe in Poland sharing you opinion is considered crying. Must be really fun to hang out with some of you. ::) good luck guys.Oh yeah, country related jokes, I love them.
you never progress without critics, if you cant take a critic or are too fragile for that, then this project is doomed dont waste your time.You just don't understand someone can have his own idea to do X or Y and not always this idea fits yours. So fragile to rejection, what mistakes your parents have made during your childhood?
This is exactly the bullshit I've heard being adeviantdeveloper of FO2. Doesn't trigger me anymore as I'm just a civilian bystander, just memories.
As a high-tech troll crafted with finest advanced trollymers and quality trolloys I must inform, my good man, you are totally wrong.
None of those guys are to be seen in threads related to how shitty the ded gaem is. I wonder why, do you?
Remove hexing, remove hexboters. Save the cheerleader, save the world.
Witchhunting and Spanish Inquisition climate.With cheaters, no mercy, no respite. Isolate them, without support they'll quit.
Who are you to decide which opinion matters more?I'm asking for a consultation of the overall server population, nobody in particular. You know it's a stupid concept where everyone can share their ideas? Moderated by the community itself. I'm sure most of the players are capable if they enjoy the game and play it.
You just don't understand someone can have his own idea to do X or Y and not always this idea fits yours.This apply to everything, compromise is the solution, not arbitrary removal of unbroken game features.
So fragile to rejection, what mistakes your parents have made during your childhood?A lot, like all parents. You'll learn that one day.
You are right. If everybody say always the same thing since years, how could they be right. They surely are wrong. You're so perfect.First of all - not everybody, but specified kind of ... say ... humanoids.
Trash with a cherry on top is still trash.Correct.
I dont see them either saying the community is shit and they did all their work for free. I wonder why, do you?Probably they are busy doing important stuff and don't bother to participate dick swinging competition or shit throwing fiesta that recently rolls on this forum. Which I find somehow amusing in twisted pervert way.
Talking about spanish inquisition. You know whats between black and white? Grey.Okay, what solution do you suggest then? Hire a bunch of in-game police forces to trace cheaters? Hire some more to verify if said policemen don't abuse their powers? Chase own tail infinitely, wasting time, manpower and resources, instead of removing the opportunity?
Some people work and dont declare to the state, lets remove work alltogether?
You're top notch.
With cheaters, no mercy, no respite. Isolate them, without support they'll quit.As above. Time consuming work nobody likes to do and barely anyone appreciates.
I'm asking for a consultation of the overall server population, nobody in particular. You know it's a stupid concept where everyone can share their ideas? Moderated by the community itself. I'm sure most of the players are capable if they enjoy the game and play it.As a bystander I have no idea if such consultations are even planned or considered, but it's not my problem, I'm logging in to shoot some geckos and craft some spears once in a while.
As far as I know public voting over removing X or Y wasn't promised anywhere, so what's this disappointment?You just don't understand someone can have his own idea to do X or Y and not always this idea fits yours.This apply to everything, compromise is the solution, not arbitrary removal of unbroken game features.
As a father of 2,5 y.o. I'm learning a lot about handling explosives on top of the hill while wearing full body copper armor during heavy storm with a lot of thunderstrikes around. This more or less explains how easy raising a new man is.So fragile to rejection, what mistakes your parents have made during your childhood?A lot, like all parents. You'll learn that one day.
What the hell is going on here?! :o :facepalm
Self-moderated community won't work with toxic playerbase FOnlines gathered around over years. Just read some posts here, imagine these guys can vote, safe like a chimp with a razor. Democracy as a failure from its definition won't keep any server tick, strong leadership will. Been there, done that.
I have totally NOTHING about some CARPETS of items in player bases. This always happened and will always happen. Item should be relatively easy to get imo.
get it once and for all - this game is free. There are no clients, no purchases, no hiring and no contracts. If you're failing to realise that, then gtfo this board and better not show anywhere on internet, or anywhere else, for that matter, because all you're gonna do is cause permanent brain damage for normal people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A40xrmz8bD8
How ironic, a man who fought for the same beliefs as many are currently doing in his own server, is now shunning them out :'(It's called "evolution" and some people, including myself, are actually following it. I went the path from angry nerd obsessed with pixels via leader of a bunch, developer, PvP ape to current "Mr Zerofucksgiven" state.
How ironic, a man who fought for the same beliefs as many are currently doing in his own server, is now shunning them out :'(It's called "evolution" and some people, including myself, are actually following it. I went the path from angry nerd obsessed with pixels via leader of a bunch, developer, PvP ape to current "Mr Zerofucksgiven" state.
I guess some primitive forms of life are unable to evolve, therefore they remain not adapted to changes a reality brings. Kinda shame.
Wichura, in your case it's more like de-evolution.Of course, especially from the point when I've stopped being useful and just abused the shit out of admin privileges on FO2. Right now I'm just useless piece of turd like any other civilian passing by.
You went from being an annoying know-it-all that was pretty much always wrong to a jaded annoying know-it-all that constantly bombards people with appeals to your non-existent authority even though the situation doesn't really call for that. And you're still pretty much always wrong.One way or another I've remained annoying. Warms my black heart, thank you.
Oh, and you don't really sound like a clever troll. You sound like you're pretty mad, especially since you obviously put a lot of effort into those posts.Don't overestimate the effort I put into posting bollocks here. It comes so easy I'm sometimes embarassed with massive advantage my trolling skills are giving me.
And what exactly is your fucking point here?In general? To watch a game and have a Bud, no great expectations. Also if tomorrow I read an announcement Reloaded is being shut down and we can all go fuck ourselves elsewhere, I won't sit in my basement mindlessly staring at the wall, with a feeling of great loss.
That the Mad Max/Nessie population is going to replace the evil PvP apes that touched you in the wrong spots? The counter says nope.I've been a classic PvP ape back in the days. Can this be considered a masturbation of some sort as I've used to be Mad Max too?
That the game is free and everybody should be grateful it's there? Do you have any idea how many free games are there, that nobody gives a rat's ass about? Do you have any idea how many free games/mods were released this month? Should the entire world be grateful to all those devs? This is a completely asinine opinion to have. If anything, amateur devs should be happy about the attention they're getting. Especially with the gaming industry being as competitive as it is right now.I couldn't care less to be honest since I haven't done anything for this particular free game apart from sharing a base map ages ago.
That there is no "correct" way to play the game and all players are equal? But that's fucking wrong, because objectively speaking some players have more clout in adversarial situations, which allows them a greater freedom of choice when it comes to what they want to do inside the game.Players are people, and people were not, are not and never will be equal. Please don't bring such communist crappy ideas anymore, thank you.
That no modder/content creator ever is going to criticize this, or any other project? I get paid for creating content and here I am, saying that mistakes were definitely made, at least from the standpoint of prolonging the life of this game in public instead of keeping it as a fenced-off pet project that nobody is interested in.Oh yeah, surely there's a lot of things to improve, rework and whatnot. I'm just too lazy to point them out, blame me. Taking a piss of some guys furiously raging about "their" game being ruined is way easier and a bit funny too. We both know forum PvP is the best and supreme kind of PvP ever.
Think about this shit for a second and sort yourself out. Your opinions are literally cancer to any FOnline project and the fact that Reloaded devs started treating them seriously and embracing them as their own is what started this little crisis in the first place.Your cancer may get AIDS if you click here (https://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,29606.msg261853.html#msg261853). Sorry, I couldn't tell these guys their game is great since it was a bucket of manure. I'm such a dick.
I just find it funny that all the FOnline devs and ex-devs love putting players on blast for being "ungrateful morons" and what-not while at the same time it's those players that put them in this "elevated" position in the first place. Like I said, the number of releases from various dev-teams last month is probably in the triple digits and yet every FOnline dev ever feels like a special snowflake after working on this game for a while. Fallout theme aside, it's really nothing special. In fact, it's pretty sub-standard in so many ways I won't even bother making a list.Ungrateful morons were only a minority, just like now in Reloaded's case. Same few guys are complaining about same few things since the beginning of this session. Most of players was really happy we bring them something to play, I remember a couple of blokes being really professional and engaged testers. I was feeling honoured being able to spawn them some free pixels as an insufficient but the only way to say "thank you".
Consider this:- we may never know the answer, some free games made from scratch gathered a big crowd of fans, some were forgotten completely
- how many people would be playing FOnline if it didn't rely on the work of Black Isle and if everything was 100% original
- without the Fallout coating, how many devs would come to a conclusion that they can tell the 5 players that are actually interested in playing this stuff to fuck off
That's my $0.02 on false entitlement in this community. It goes both ways, and what we see here is bringing this retardation to a whole new level. What should be a nostalgia trip to the late nineties turned into a massive dick-waving contest because creator bias made some people believe they can do nothing wrong. And this isn't just about Reloaded. In fact, most FOnline servers turn out like that. I guess it's a combination of unrealistic expectations from the players, nostalgia and unrealistic ambitions from the devs that ultimately turns every project into a shit-show.How do you know someone is wrong? When you see them doing not what you want and/or not in a way you want? That's a bit selfish, my friend.
At this point, I wouldn't even say I'm trying to give any advice here. I mean it's obvious the devs weren't interested in that, because they're the Fallout (tm) devs, and this obviously means that they're Always Right (tm) - even though the audience they have is mostly Black Isle fans who enjoy the rather randomly created 2238 PvP formula, and not really their fans. The devs feel like they're prisoners to this formula and want to break free - get creative. This "prisoner" thingie also makes them bitter when it comes to dealing with the players, because in the end, 2238 pew pew isn't really Fallout, and the devs are some of the most hardcore Fallout fans you could find. As a result, the players - especially the 2238 pew pew fans - feel like this isn't something that they want to play after a certain threshold of unacceptable changes is reached. Bam. It flops. A parody of a Shakespearean tragedy, in which nobody is to blame.Please show me on the Mr Nixon's doll where the bad ugly dev touched you without your permission.
But then again it's not like this is the first time this sort of shit happened (2238, anyone?) and some people probably ought to know better. No hard feelings either way, I've got plenty of other games to play.2238 died due to lack of clear, consistent road map, no leadership, random changes of random shit based on random people's ideas. Also back then there was no real alternative if your Russian was poor. Now there's a choice and having a choice is what I admire, as I admire freedom.
I just couldn't help myself and wanted to post this "I told you so" here.Let's keep this thread for say a year or two and come back then to see who was right, shall we?
How do you know someone is wrong? When you see them doing not what you want and/or not in a way you want? That's a bit selfish, my friend.
Nobody knows if it's right or wrong regarding the recent changes on Reloaded. It will be possible to judge after some time, word being spreaded and officialy getting out of testing session, which I believe current one is considered as such. I'll laugh my ass off when all the crybabies come back then to play "their" game again, obviously being a favourite one from now on.
Please show me on the Mr Nixon's doll where the bad ugly dev touched you without your permission.
I never considered myself a big Fallout fan, I just like the setting. Also I still don't know what kind of players will come to Reloaded with overhauled gameplay (if any), but I already know the ones being around now. Hell, I even wonder seeing some new nicknames "who's alt is this?", just like in good ol' smelly swamp of 2238 in its later stage. How about some new kids on the block for a change?
2238 died due to lack of clear, consistent road map, no leadership, random changes of random shit based on random people's ideas. Also back then there was no real alternative if your Russian was poor. Now there's a choice and having a choice is what I admire, as I admire freedom.
Let's keep this thread for say a year or two and come back then to see who was right, shall we?
I have no "wants" here, as I'm not an active player. There are many objective ways to assess that: player population, basic game design principles (mostly game theory; risk/reward ratios and so on). If a dev goes "O_O" when I tell him that there's no incentive for TC from a game theory standpoint... you know, this shit really is a bit too complicated to just stumble into the right solution.In my personal opinion I find TC in current shape(s) one of the most useless and cancerogenic features of FOnlines in general. It makes towns almost dead 95% of time, nobody so far found a reasonable and impossible to abuse way of actually "controlling" the town. But it's just me, participated TC sometimes as a civilian, watched it as a dev with invisible mode enabled, the only thing more boring is digging rocks in designated mines.
I think it's too early to say this. But I accept the fact I might be wrong in my humble foreseeing attempts. Do you?Nobody knows if it's right or wrong regarding the recent changes on Reloaded. It will be possible to judge after some time, word being spreaded and officialy getting out of testing session, which I believe current one is considered as such. I'll laugh my ass off when all the crybabies come back then to play "their" game again, obviously being a favourite one from now on.
I think you're being delusional right now.
I was hoping you'll like my little joke.Please show me on the Mr Nixon's doll where the bad ugly dev touched you without your permission.
I'm not active enough to feel salty about this shit. Like I said, for me it feels like an autopsy.
New kids that haven't got used to full loot, open pvp, TC crap and so on. Those raised on MMO's where you don't loose your pixels when you die, where a game grabs your hand and points you directly, more carebearish so to speak. No idea if after a decade, few miserable attempts ("Desert Europe" for instance) and spamming "FOnline" phrase all over the Internet you can still find many of those. I'll sit and watch just out of curiosity.I never considered myself a big Fallout fan, I just like the setting. Also I still don't know what kind of players will come to Reloaded with overhauled gameplay (if any), but I already know the ones being around now. Hell, I even wonder seeing some new nicknames "who's alt is this?", just like in good ol' smelly swamp of 2238 in its later stage. How about some new kids on the block for a change?
What new kids? FOnline has been around for almost a decade. What you see is what you get.
So what it wants?2238 died due to lack of clear, consistent road map, no leadership, random changes of random shit based on random people's ideas. Also back then there was no real alternative if your Russian was poor. Now there's a choice and having a choice is what I admire, as I admire freedom.
Yeah. Random, misguided outbursts of creativity in a community that essentially reached a sort-of consensus about what it wants.
Attracting new players and raising numbers to hundreds is easy as fuck. This has been practised by many teams and individuals, spam cannons are in place, piece of cake.Let's keep this thread for say a year or two and come back then to see who was right, shall we?
Okay. Not gonna hold my breath tho. Mindsets would have to change, and we all know that people on both sides are way too stubborn for that to happen. And even if it did, it's really hard to recover from a 60%+ population drop. Like, you seem to have no idea how hard it is.
I think it's too early to say this. But I accept the fact I might be wrong in my humble foreseeing attempts. Do you?
New kids that haven't got used to full loot, open pvp, TC crap and so on. Those raised on MMO's where you don't loose your pixels when you die, where a game grabs your hand and points you directly, more carebearish so to speak. No idea if after a decade, few miserable attempts ("Desert Europe" for instance) and spamming "FOnline" phrase all over the Internet you can still find many of those. I'll sit and watch just out of curiosity.
So what it wants?
Attracting new players and raising numbers to hundreds is easy as fuck. This has been practised by many teams and individuals, spam cannons are in place, piece of cake.
Figure out how to make those hundreds stay and play for more than 3 days. So far nobody was successful with this one, by whatever means were in use. FOnlines keep attracting the same autistic creatures over and over, but pool of these is quite narrow. So either it remains as it is (c) or by complete redesigning the gameplay new kind of players will appear. Maybe.
New kids?Yeah, in a game where maybe 200 people play lets make it even less by deliberatly pushing away our core playerbase. Because you know, we dont have any idea how to improve pvp, how to balance it, we are bored and are sick of fonline in general. So let's blame the community and aim for random casuals who will quit after two days, two weeks, two months because lets face it, without PvP this game is complete trash and the content is too small to keep players around except die hard fans.
In my personal opinion I find TC in current shape(s) one of the most useless and cancerogenic features of FOnlines in general. It makes towns almost dead 95% of time,
And why would they want to play this game instead of any other MMO? You're talking about the kind of gamers that dropped Destiny 2 because there wasn't enough content. And Destiny 2 is pretty fucking big compared to any FOnline server. I mean for fuck's sake, let's be realistic here for once. Casual gamers aren't a good target group for a game of this kind, because it's way too old and way too small.I had in mind casual players from more or less my Chernobyl Generation (born in 80's), those who remember playing singleplayer Fallouts 1 and 2. How do you attract such grandpas, seeking for some adventure in a Fallout setting without digging through game guides for ages and calculating The Perfect Build? By showing them fast pace action movies in "PvP section", full of disgusting no walls mods, shitty music background, random nicknames, gangs namecolorized with bad taste colors and chaos in general? Well, I wonder why this doesn't work in their case.
A 2238 clone with less bullshit? Wasn't it obvious from the very beginning? They just want to pew pew in peace. In fact, they're pew pewing in peace elsewhere right now.There's plenty of 2238 clones recently, none became super popular. And their devs, according to what they announce, are listening to players. Odd.
Those "autistic creatures" are willing to forgive those FOnline servers their basic faults. That's why they're coming back. Those same faults, that can't really be eliminated, also make them completely inaccessible for most newcomers. It's not rocket science.So are we ready to conclude FOnline idea as such is bankrupted and nothing can be done about it?
Anyway this discussion is getting kind of boring, so unless you've got something more poignant to say than "let's just wait and see, maybe we'll get a thousand casuals here in a decade or so" - I'm kind of done here.No, not really. Thanks for your time then.
Yeah, in a game where maybe 200 people play lets make it even less by deliberatly pushing away our core playerbase.Core playerbase is playing the game now, they are not gone anywhere. "Semper fidelis" rule makes them the core. But I'm tired of explaining this simple fact over and over, like banging a head against the wall.
Because you know, we dont have any idea how to improve pvp, how to balance it, we are bored and are sick of fonline in general. So let's blame the community and aim for random casuals who will quit after two days, two weeks, two months because lets face it, without PvP this game is complete trash and the content is too small to keep players around except die hard fans.When I got bored of making FOnline, I just stopped doing it without blaming anyone. But I'm not good drama queen.
Towns are dead anyway except from Hub. Once again too few people play this game to make all towns alive and then the random casuals you are aiming for stay in tent or avoid social interaction anyway.Map is too big in general and traveling speed is still too slow. Once again - FOnline2 has worldmap redesigned, so it's easier to spot someone.
casuals won't be interested in this kind of game anyway. Nothing to do here, too much reading, technical problems with running the client, graphics are ugly, shiny stars don't pop up when you manage not to die in first 10 seconds. Move along.
Unguarded towns remain unguarded, you can freely smash some n00bs for glory and lulz. They don't drop pixels anymore on Reloaded, but hey, who needs some n00b shitty gear, fun matters, isn't it? Isn't it?
So again I who too is starting to be tired to repeat myself, wonder why do the game try to attract those players? Maybe read your own posts next time, you pretty much answer to yourself.I clearly stated what kind of casuals I mean in terms of attracting them to oldschool Fallout setting.
Isn't it? Isn't it what? Why you assume because you got shot and pissed on by some random dudes on the internet because yes we are on the internet and people when they are protected behind their screen magically gain a pair of balls and since they are not used to that feeling they tend to get carried away.I'm way too old for raging about lost pixels. If my character dies, well, tough shit, move on. However since my free time is limited I kinda like the features that save it for me so I can focus on shooting geckos instead of providing a supply chain.
Dont assume thats the case for every pvp player here.
Contrary to you i think pve and pvp players can get along just fine.Correct.
I personnally have no problem with players who want to roleplay in the hub or stay in their tent, but you seem to have an overgrown hate towards pvp. Maybe review your priority after all its just a game to have fun. If people have their fun shooting each others why do that remotly bother you.I have no idea where did you find a hate towards anyone in my posts. I may not like this or that particular guy's attitude or poor manners, but overall I don't hate anonymous players of some video game. Why would I? They did nothing wrong to me.
And since when this is some kind of competition after all there should be a place for loners, pvp faction, pvers, roleplayers.Wasn't my idea to bring this artificial dividing (https://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=12749.msg104895#msg104895) into play.
Dont assume that you are representative of the majority, neither am I. I'm just throwing my 2 cents.Once again - I'm just a bystander, came here to get some fun during cold rainy evening.
Concerning the other servers the only reason why I dont play or even try them is because i dont waste my time grinding. I dont find it fun period. And on that regard reloaded is declining thx to people who said "its too easy to get items, I want them all for myself others dont deserve them".Oh yeah, I also don't like this tedious process of leveling until your character is more or less viable to actually play.
For other servers to gain popularity you need to get rid of this one first. I dont think the game can improve in any way considering its just impossible to exchange with the devs about anything without ending in the "tears this, tears that section".I think if there are some decisions already made, us plain peasants can just accept it or move elsewhere.
Once again if you cannot take any criticism dont develop. If you still do so be ready for them and accept them.I could take criticism as a developer, no hassle. I'm just allergic to retards, so it's not my fault I've banned a few of the top ones, it's my sickness.
I decided to post again so you don't have the last word Wichura :DYour command is my wish.
Please post again after me to have it again.
Without joking now, you successfully made me play FOnline2. Your plan worked perfectly, even Kilgore didn't see it coming, good job.Don't tell anyone as it's a secret, but I'm getting paid by both dev teams for all my hard work. FO2 ones pay me for attracting their game, Reloaded ones pay me for helping to get rid off crybabies, demanding cunts and spoiled brats. Shhhh!
Lol game is fine. Get over all the butt hurt, load up the Reloaded, and come join civilization!Lol I found the meme quote.