FOnline: Reloaded
General => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: TKs-Mantis on September 11, 2017, 03:46:42 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0_3bQktaUY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0_3bQktaUY)
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I don't have abilities to make such fancy movies, words are my weapon.
I've been around FOnline phenomena for years (since the very end of the 1st 2238 session in late 2009). I've never had a forum alt account, always trolled the shit out of people with the same nickname. You're welcome.
Thoughts about this session you say. The most significant change is no loot drop I believe. New guns, quests, maps and whatnot are obviously time consuming to make and nice to have content, but they don't affect gameplay that much. None of the FOnline server I've played on so far gave me this unique experience of interacting with people by will, not by force and in other way than killing their characters (or attempting to at least). It's still very strange feeling for an oldfag FOnline junkie to carry a full set of lumberjack tools, a car key, some caps and the same gun all the time with me no matter where I go and what I do, with no big penalty for lag/disconnection/kid distracting you/meeting the wrong guy in the wrong place. There's a really weird impression when I enter an unguarded location, meet players there and talk to them instead of fight/escape/avoid, and it's like what you should do in a multiplayer game but you couldn't do so far in autism-supporting FOnline games. I mean yeah, you could for a while, until a bunch of muted clones appeared, making the place perfectly dead silent and deserted again. This wasn't the case if you were a part of the bunch though, but these are minority anyway.
Many guys complaining about this feature start from completely wrong point, therefore they are mistaken and led into abyss of tears and rage. It's not pure PvP players being a majority of all playerbase, it's not PvP only that makes the server tick. This assumption was made years ago and kept around for a long time, reasons will remain uknown forever. And also this artificial dividing between PvP vs PvE vs RP brings no purpose, as you can perfectly combine those gamestyles. Especially in a sandbox environment like FOnline with multiple possibilities. In fact I consider PvP one of the most enjoyable part of this game because people are unpredictable and do funny/strange/interesting shit mostly. With mobs you sooner than later figure out their strategy and patterns they follow, especially with repeatable quests/encounters/etc.
I don't have much time to play computer games recently. The frustrating part of playing any FOnline wasn't the loss of pixels as such, but the time consumed to get them. Pixels themselves are virtual and have no value, but the time has. And since the playerbase consists mostly of people pricing their time with real values, I see the bright future here. Of course I'm missing a couple of features from other servers (increasing the carryweight with levels of character, active cursor not requiring to have a specified tool in hand, smaller worldmap with short travelling distances), but I've tried to establish my very own brave new server once and failed terribly, so no hassle.
I've tried to avoid sexual related insults and racial slurrs here. Those are funny to read, but shitstorm wasn't my goal. Not now at least.
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I don't have much time to play computer games recently. The frustrating part of playing any FOnline wasn't the loss of pixels as such, but the time consumed to get them. Pixels themselves are virtual and have no value, but the time has.
^ This - since FOnline playerbase is pretty old ( I think more than 50% of us have work and families) this is the thing that I really like here.
Damn, to be honest... I've didn't played much of "reloaded" previously... but that change is pretty good. No-full-loot it is something fresh that gives me a completely new FOnline experience and I've played FOnlines since 2009 :D
Devs did a really good job in my opinion.
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I don't have much time to play computer games recently. The frustrating part of playing any FOnline wasn't the loss of pixels as such, but the time consumed to get them. Pixels themselves are virtual and have no value, but the time has.
^ This - since FOnline playerbase is pretty old ( I think more than 50% of us have work and families) this is the thing that I really like here.
Damn, to be honest... I've didn't played much of "reloaded" previously... but that change is pretty good. No-full-loot it is something fresh that gives me a completely new FOnline experience and I've played FOnlines since 2009 :D
Devs did a really good job in my opinion.
Woah, MAC is alive :O
Back to the subject, I think Wichura made it clear and said almost all that should be said.
I would add maybe one thing, no more taking your hard earned loot from dungeons.
I was upset when I did whole dungeon as Warehouse, New Reno, New Reno - Sewers or Glow, and I was killed by group of players camping on spawn. F.E. Glow, you did all the job, and when you hit the exit of Glows' dungeon you were spawning near that hole as a deadman, cause you were bursted by few guys when your screen was loading. For me that was only something that upset me, but for a new player? He just learnt how to hex, craft CA and proper gear, few secs after he defeated all enemies and even manage to obtain some rare T4 gear or implant, he's few steps from exit and he become a victim of raiders camping in blind spot....I would not blame him for Rage Quit in such a situation. All the farmed or crafted drugs, gear, ammo are stolen and for his well played dungeon he is rewarded with loosing his gear and farmed prize. WTF?
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I have no thoughts about nodrop, but deleting 1hex was not good idea for me. It makes PvP less variety.
And about other things, I see now full implanted characters and how much time passed? 3-4 weeks after wipe? Also guys in APA 3 days after restart shows that the "rare" stuff is too easy to find. For example from my experience in s2 ( I was one of the first who got most of them) implants were much harder to get, and it takes months to get all of them.
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Implants and T4 spawn was changed this season? Anyone knows how?
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Dunno which server dank anel is playing on, but Reloaded is 2 weeks after wipe and there are no implanted characters.
And there are actually 0 implants in the game atm.
Btw I removed some forum PvP but next time I will use banhammer in permanent mode.
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And there are actually 0 implants in the game atm.
Do they still spawn in SE or was it changed ?
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No. I'm not sure about the current state but Special Encos will not spawn implants and rare items, for obvious reasons.
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And there are actually 0 implants in the game atm.
What sort of plans do you have for implants in the future?
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I have no thoughts about nodrop, but deleting 1hex was not good idea for me. It makes PvP less variety.
And about other things, I see now full implanted characters and how much time passed? 3-4 weeks after wipe? Also guys in APA 3 days after restart shows that the "rare" stuff is too easy to find. For example from my experience in s2 ( I was one of the first who got most of them) implants were much harder to get, and it takes months to get all of them.
Why don't you have any rare stuff if it's so easy to find? Seriously get your team together and learn the new game instead of calling for bans or nerf this etc. Learn from us instead and come fight when your teams ready man, no need for such a negative attitude all the time
So this is what I think so far
1) I think the new modules like the farm are real fun to explore and grind, looks great with the new faction icons :)
2) I miss the loot drops, hexing and the old tc tbh but I think the no implants and no t4 snipers is pretty damn nice and fresh tbh.
3) PVP vs. Hawks has been great so far, win or loose, gg's and respect all around o/
4) Not a fan of the writing tbh not gonna lie (the puppetman thing I don't dig and the bosses have fantasy feel names that is, haven't done the main storyline yet so not judging that). On the other hand the new locations are absolutely stunning. The new mansion base is sweet aswell!
5) It seems the server has a hard time with the pvp sometimes when alot of players are fighting, had some rubberbanding issues especially on the first days of server start but today there was rockets not being fired and stims not being taken because of the lag issues, small scale pvp works well though! Mantis has a hard time playing at all
6) Been really happy with the devs response time with issues and think it's gonna be a great session overall. Will send a little smth smth every month to help cover the server cost on behalf of TKs, we're throughly enjoying the game so far
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I have no thoughts about nodrop, but deleting 1hex was not good idea for me. It makes PvP less variety.
And about other things, I see now full implanted characters and how much time passed? 3-4 weeks after wipe? Also guys in APA 3 days after restart shows that the "rare" stuff is too easy to find. For example from my experience in s2 ( I was one of the first who got most of them) implants were much harder to get, and it takes months to get all of them.
Why don't you have any rare stuff if it's so easy to find? Seriously get your team together and learn the new game instead of calling for bans or nerf this etc. Learn from us instead and come fight when your teams ready man, no need for such a negative attitude all the time
So this is what I think so far
1) I think the new modules like the farm are real fun to explore and grind, looks great with the new faction icons :)
2) I miss the loot drops, hexing and the old tc tbh but I think the no implants and no t4 snipers is pretty damn nice and fresh tbh.
3) PVP vs. Hawks has been great so far, win or loose, gg's and respect all around o/
4) Not a fan of the writing tbh not gonna lie (the puppetman thing I don't dig and the bosses have fantasy feel names that is, haven't done the main storyline yet so not judging that). On the other hand the new locations are absolutely stunning. The new mansion base is sweet aswell! I haven't
5) It seems the server has a hard time with the pvp sometimes when alot of players are fighting, had some rubberbanding issues especially on the first days of server start but today there was rockets not being fired and stims not being taken because of the lag issues, small scale pvp works well though! Mantis has a hard time playing at all
6) Been really happy with the devs response time with issues and think it's gonna be a great session overall. Will send a little smth smth every month to help cover the server cost on behalf of TKs, we're throughly enjoying the game so far
I agree with Farmer Mc.Mengelito. ::)
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old dr. mengelito had a farm iai iai oh
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old dr. mengelito had a farm iai iai oh
and on it he had some scrubs e-i-e-i-o
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The new mansion base is sweet aswell!
Thank you, I'm glad you like it.
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No. I'm not sure about the current state but Special Encos will not spawn implants and rare items, for obvious reasons.
Wait, WHAT? You do not get an implant from the bunker anymore? Where will they be obtained from then? And what can currently be found in the bunker, at the implant safe?
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I want to move all rare stuff (implants, power armors, rare weapons etc.) to rare drops that are totally random, can't be botted or reserved to big factions and depend on pure luck (real life luck not LK stat). But it will come with time.
Special encounters will be only fun stuff without jackpot loot.
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No. I'm not sure about the current state but Special Encos will not spawn implants and rare items, for obvious reasons.
Wait, WHAT? You do not get an implant from the bunker anymore? Where will they be obtained from then? And what can currently be found in the bunker, at the implant safe?
We've been there and we where not disappointed :)
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I want to move all rare stuff (implants, power armors, rare weapons etc.) to rare drops that are totally random, can't be botted or reserved to big factions and depend on pure luck (real life luck not LK stat). But it will come with time.
Special encounters will be only fun stuff without jackpot loot.
Rare drops? As in from monsters/bosses? So that means even more grind and being forced into parties with other people now, parties full of people who will also want the weapon/item aka even more grind.
In short - there's no point in looking for SE's anymore....figures......
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Well you can not remove abuses, maybe the only way would be get rid off implants or T4. Anyway, it would be nice to know where we are able to obtain such items now.
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Anyway, it would be nice to know where we are able to obtain such items now.
This. Farming implants and other nice stuff was how I was spending time when bored during the last session so it'd be nice to know if doing so is still possible.
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In short - there's no point in looking for SE's anymore....figures......
If by "looking for SE's" you mean running multiple clients and moving on worldmap until something is found - mostly via autoclickers - then right, there is no point in doing that.
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I didn't want to farm T4 and other high end items, just wanted to know where I can obtain from time to time an implant or gauss rifle, nothing more :/
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If by "looking for SE's" you mean running multiple clients and moving on worldmap until something is found - mostly via autoclickers - then right, there is no point in doing that.
During the last session when I was doing that, 4 chars at a time, back then it was not among the activities that were not allowed.
And no, I never used an autoclicker/bot/macro to do that as there was never any point - at least not for 4 characters - so you can keep your silly insinuations to yourself.
I didn't want to farm T4 and other high end items, just wanted to know where I can obtain from time to time an implant or gauss rifle, nothing more :/
Just as simple as that - I wanted to know whether or not there's a chance that, at some point, I will be able to improve my build with an implant or a nice gun. And if so, how can these be obtained.
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SE are meant to be found randomly not farmed thats a fun part of the game not knowing what you encounter
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Once again, I don't want to farm them.
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I laugh when I see scrubs using needless extra alts to farm SE when they would drop in my lap while being logged with 2 chars, often one in base/town and one moving looking for encs in general.
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Main issue for most players in this session seem to be handling the new no-loot play. I can see both sides to it,
here's some suggestions for decent middleground stands on the issue:
(I'm by no means a developer and who knows how these systems could be abused, but just food for thought, maybe
one of these ideas or a combination of them might work if implemented properly.)
Chance / Stat:
Have a percentual chance on each carried item to drop when dying. Baseline could be 33% chance check to keep an item
and each point in Luck stat could possibly affect these percentages
For example: 1 Luck = +3% chance to keep your item
...On top of that, it could be a new equipment stat: +(Amount)% chance to keep item upon dying. Some items could also be "Undroppable"
Insurance:
An NPC that can insure your items against caps, more insurance cost for more valuable item.
Once an item is insured, it won't either drop for a certain time period, or has very low drop chance
Make it a perk:
Add three different looter perks; "Weapon looter", "Armor looter", and "inventory looter",
characters that pick these perks have to sacrifice a perk slot (or three) to be able to loot
given parts of players' equipment. Could also make it so that a player can only select one of these perks at lvl 24
Player Choice:
Simply give the player a choice when creating their character, on whether it's a "Hardcore Wastelander" or a "Regular" character.
The hardcore wastelanders will drop all loot on death when killed by NPC's or another HC character (but not when killed by a regular character)
..The HC characters could have access to some extra content or something for further incentive to players picking this more difficult/frustrating playstyle,
maybe even go as far as making TC only available to HC chars.
PK-Status After Soft Level cap:
After reaching lvl 24, you get a PK-karma meter. After accumulating enough PK-karma by slaughtering a certain amount of fellow players, you'll begin dropping gear when killed by another player. The PK-Karma will slowly decrease over time when not killing other players or when killed by another player. When starting Town Control, the PK-karma gains would increase exponentially.
Choose A Slot:
Player will be given choice to pick one item slot from where loot doesn't drop.
Choice between Slow Replication or Lootdrop:
Upon dying, pop up a selection screen; Slow Replication (return back to life in 4-5 minutes) or Lootdrop; Lose all your gear but replicate in 1 minute as usual
What do my fellow wastelanders think of these suggestions?
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Abusable, hard to implement and as I think it will bring new bugs and exploits.
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About 'no loot' problem - I remember there was a game where gang can declare a war with another faction. It allows to freely kill and loot members of enemy factions - but only them and only during war. Something like this gives players a conscious choice.
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Nice idea for abuse, brin 5 players with gang members tags, and rest of the team will use alts without gang tags. You will be able to loot only 5 of them, I see your point but I thinkit's abusable as fuck.
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So add bonus Dmg and DR against members of enemy factions but only when using char with tags. It will force to bring more than 5. But this makes system more complicated. Perhaps you are right, abusable.
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It's a Fonline, if there's any chance to abust it,surely someone will do that.
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No, it's FOnline, if there is no chance to abuse someone will anyway.
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Loot loot loot,we dont need loot,what we need is good pvp balance and less grinding.
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Loot loot loot,we dont need loot,what we need is good pvp balance and less grinding.
For me it was being able to loot = less grinding ;D
cause you know, looting someone's crafted statted gear was fun for me :D
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Sup guys!
Im a totally new player (used to play FO2238 a looong fucking time a go) and I am sure you will appreciate my opinions on all of this the way I appreciate you old timers telling me yours.
First of all, excited to be here, especially now that I learned the game recently reset. What luck eh...And that's all with 6 out of 10 boys.
So first of all the two dudes I met on the first day playing were superhelpful but both told me the community is super toxic. Nobody was toxic in the newbie area so it all seems to depend on how busy people are and if people have a lot to lose, and also I guess the level of inter community self moderation and policing.
Although Im a big loot drop kind of guy I do appreciate the lack of it.
I would from experience in other games like Eve, Tibia and various UO shards like to recommend to the developers of the project that you have shorter sessions and more common wipes. Perhaps every 6 months. The last 1 or 2 of those months could then be the all out battle for dominion with full loot drop while the first of the first 4-5 months are loot free. This way you could always have new people coming or old people re-establishing themselves while still keeping the PVP spirit alive.
One more thing Id like to comment on is the radio system.
While pretty damn awesome in of itself I must say that I do not like the lack of private player to player communication for one reason alone. Man if I could regulate everyones computer usage and have people sign contracts in blood saying that they won't use third party software while playing the game then this whole radio stuff would be epic but I can't. So I think, for the sake of fairness and balance we should introduce some 'encrypted' channels.
Heres a rough idea.
Digital radios with encryption card slots. You trade/make slots and give them to friends. Anyone with a slot can listen in. Anyone without will just hear (read) jibberish/it wont work. Or just make it a simple PM function if this idea is to damn complicated to implement. Probably heard it before, I know.
Adds a nice new element similar to the map thing. If you have a spy in your enemies organization you can listen in to their communications =)!
But overall it just tilts the advantage that already pre established groups of friends have to those that come into the game from the outside, like myself. And I think that anything that can be done to reduce the benefit of such actions that essentially 'break the 4th wall' of gaming should be done.
Well those are my ...two cents... or two thoughts if you wish.
Thanks!
And thanks to the OP for making them videos. Keep at it man.
Concerning your ideas for the loot drop I think that the percentage idea is the least exploitable and could synergies well with my idea too with percentages going up the closer we get to endgame. But more than anything I fully agree with the EXP idea which could also scale in comparison to the people you kill so that newbie abuse would get you next to nothing but attacking someone that is a higher level than yourself could get you a lot.
Player Choice:
Simply give the player a choice when creating their character, on whether it's a "Hardcore Wastelander" or a "Regular" character.
The hardcore wastelanders will drop all loot on death when killed by NPC's or another HC character (but not when killed by a regular character)
..The HC characters could have access to some extra content or something for further incentive to players picking this more difficult/frustrating playstyle,
maybe even go as far as making TC only available to HC chars.
Goddamn where have you people been all my life. Quit playing MMORPGs because they were either infested with carebear crybabies or whiny little toxic monsters that couldn't articulate an opinion. Good idea.
Fuck me the admin or who ever Mad Matt up there is could be right. These things are tricky! Could be abused by having a friend wait and kill people near death while being a regular char. Ah boy, I liked the ide anyway.
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more common wipes. Perhaps every 6 months.
One more thing Id like to comment on is the radio system
- 6 months is not enough for a game like this. This game requires a lot of time to be invested and in 6 months a casual player have nothing built/developed/explored. I think 1.5 year is ok, people can enjoy their stuff, build something up and also devs get some time to work on the game/fixes/features.
- Radio - you can set up a private channel.
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How do I setup a private channel that nobody can listen into? Thx.
About the time investment...damn dude. 1.5 years?
Maybe this ain't for me then. I m kinda busy nowdays and would just like to have some fun taking over towns and doing some quests. A way to 'fix' this would be to lower the skill cap or make the effects more progressive but now Im just talking shit considering Im a newb.
Anyway you can scale the suggestion.
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How do I setup a private channel that nobody can listen into? Thx.
About the time investment...damn dude. 1.5 years?
Maybe this ain't for me then. I m kinda busy nowdays and would just like to have some fun taking over towns and doing some quests. A way to 'fix' this would be to lower the skill cap or make the effects more progressive but now Im just talking shit considering Im a newb.
Anyway you can scale the suggestion.
click on the radio and see the "channel" there, put there whatever number you want and press the button, the message will say "radio channel has been changed" .. share this with your friends and enjoy private channel.
the season duration .. I used to play lineage 2 in my younger days and low rate servers were lasting longer (2 years) and higher rate servers were lasting few months only, because you got to get all stuff you needed in shorter time so it made perfect sense.
If exp on reloaded was significantly increased (ie 10 times) and drop rate of all the stuff too, then yeah, no point in having 2 years long season, but I don't think this is something people want. I myself appreciate having a place to return even after 2-3 months break (ie family reasons, job reasons, whatever reason).
Also please note that doing any change from a developer perspective is hard as fuck - I tried to read once through the guideline how to set up a working map and I would need to spend ages to create something meaningful. So 6 months wipe with no content change / feature would only lead into playerbase decrease. (imo)
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How do I setup a private channel that nobody can listen into? Thx.
The channels numbers can be set between 0 and 65536. They are not secured, so if you know the channel number used by another player you can tune in and listen easily, though the chances of that happening randomly are extremely low.
In other words don't use channels that people are obviously going to use... Or use out of game chats if you value absolute privacy so much. The devs have real things to work on that will actually improve gameplay.
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Well the only issue with that is establishing a private channel with someone you meet over the radio chat or in a public space.
But it's all good, no biggie.
I thought the radio was limited to a realistic channel array so this is much better!
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I like many changes, crafting in general, but I really don't like noloot system. For me it kills whole idea of this game. Here is why.
It's been second day I play, running bare character into ruins to find junk (crucial TS material now - good). And? Nothing. Totally nothing. I don' care if I die or no - I just go there without weapon, get junk or get killed. One player spend 1 hour to hunt me and I loled, because he lost like 20 bullets and that 1 hour and I lost 6 minutes total for ressurection and another 1 minute total to get to the ruins - in that time I got 270 Junk and other materials... I feel no need to be in a gang in any way. I really see no point to PvP because gearing up was essential part of the game: you either go with best gear and risk or do kamikaze mission and get crapiest gear to try PvP. None of this is real now, because a) I don't lose anything and even If i kill top geared player I don't get anything from him, hence no reward system for me. It's just die-res-repeat system in wider scale then Hinkley. and b) what I do now is standing, waiting to be killed because I am gearing up... for what? I don't need any gear actually, because since noloot system I don't see point of gearing for anything. Even if I will go with some group for PvP, naked or no, I don't get nothing from this...
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tc is impossible to attack
no fun from pvp in encounters or in tc = game went to hello kitty state.
i think this changes was bad idea. for me best times on server is session 1 ( brutal t4 spawns, tryhard, real toxicity towards enemies )
session 2 dropped its quality due almost not t4 fights, no pancors/plasmas. also no way to get an implant for 2 years. ( i did like 600+ wh runs etc)
+ issue that u can't now fight a swarm wich is so gay. snipers crazy imbalanced = only swarm wins long range fights.
wtf im with finesse doing 70 60 40 damage with bypasses everytime?
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no skill involved = shoot a guy and chase with militia . but even if u swet it and win an attack on town? what it gives? nothing. 1k exp +10 gold nuggets? dont make me laugh. ther is literally no reason to pvp at all. 1 quest was giving 17k caps +30k exp. so u need like controll town for 2 days or what? idunno so ppl just farm farm and farm. but what for? they can't loot enemies, can't get implants. and 1 combat armor is enough for 3 days of pvp actions? wtf .
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btw when u can loot all enemi fags so they wont come for a weak after it IT WAS SUCH A FUCKING SATISFACTION.
kilgore brother be a human, make smth funni, i fap this game 3 years already.
And fo2 is dead as fuck, i have no Fonlines with classy combat system to play :((((((((
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PvP wise season 1 was best, server since season 2 went completly in the opposite way.
1st blow = removal of reno (season 2)
2nds blow= very bad tc system (season 3)
You guys did well for pve but why this brutal change in pvp? Who say you received endless pm of pvp crybabies in season 1? From who? I'm curious to know who changed your mind so that now we have a very bad pvp server without reno and troll control instead of town control.
The grind is even worse than season 2 and there is no point for it at all.
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PvP wise season 1 was best, server since season 2 went completly in the opposite way.
1st blow = removal of reno (season 2)
2nds blow= very bad tc system (season 3)
You guys did well for pve but why this brutal change in pvp? Who say you received endless pm of pvp crybabies in season 1? From who? I'm curious to know who changed your mind so that now we have a very bad pvp server without reno and troll control instead of town control.
The grind is even worse than season 2 and there is no point for it at all.
Wow this guy.. i think this is a best post out of 1 or 1.5 years on forum from what i saw.
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my 2cent.
No loot - I was kinda mad at the beginning but it's good for newbs and I got used to it (doesn't mean I'm happy with it - I still hope in bright full loot future).
No hex - now even noobs have chance to win pvp. So good for newbs.
Quests - great job. Really like this and can't wait till you finish some (ie main quest)
Telltales - reward was too op, now its nerfed, but nerfed to shit so telltales are not worth anymore - at least not in single mode. Time to get a telltale break until it's somehow resolved (slightly boosted reward).
Steal - now completely useless which is good for newbs
forgot TC - last season we went to TC with 3-6 people and managed to kill 13+ - now we are talking about skill + intense pvp fights. Nowadays TC is about whoever comes first & get militia - a huge nvp (npc vs player) advantage.
So even though this server was too much newbie-adjusted it's still OK to play and hope for better tomorrow.
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> cry on forum there's no new players coming and staying, so you keep seeing same faces over and over
> cry on forum game became newbs friendly and newcomers focused
Well fuck me and my dog lads, get your shit together, would you please?
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Wichura, this particular game has its fans. This particular online mod has if fans. Combine both and you have playerbase. I don't care if somone reads this or not - I gave feedback. Player above me gave feedback as well. He pointed that game is newbie friendly. I will add one for this:
Was this game made for newbs? Lets all play F2 and enjoy great PVM and quests... save system and no need to talk dirty with other players (aka no loot - no risk).
And there is no statement about implants. S1 had added implants 1 month before wipe. S2 had them for 1 year. And they all come without any notice prior change, which is f*** because I have bought in S2 4 imps for 22 mil caps - shitload time was spend to get them and two weeks later thy were buyable in SF... I could implant at least 4 characters...
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Wichura, this particular game has its fans. This particular online mod has if fans. Combine both and you have playerbase.
... consisting spoiled brats, toxic trolls (including myself here, the high-tech kind of troll), oldfags, hardcore masochists, 4chan-apes, basement dwellers and similiar types of humanoids. Correct me if I'm wrong but this is not how a game can flourish and become popular among plain guys. It will remain as toxic as its community.
I don't care if somone reads this or not - I gave feedback. Player above me gave feedback as well. He pointed that game is newbie friendly.
Since I haven't done anything useful for this particular server (apart from Trader Mansion base map I've shared on fodev.net and it's been used here), I couldn't care less about a feedback or lack of it.
Was this game made for newbs? Lets all play F2 and enjoy great PVM and quests... save system and no need to talk dirty with other players (aka no loot - no risk).
Oh yeah, I remember these lines from 2238 - Wasteland is harsh, go play HKO/Fallout singleplayer, lrn2play n00b. Same old story over and over. And now boom, all of a sudden something refreshing popped out. Swamp is about to get dry.
And there is no statement about implants. S1 had added implants 1 month before wipe. S2 had them for 1 year. And they all come without any notice prior change, which is f*** because I have bought in S2 4 imps for 22 mil caps - shitload time was spend to get them and two weeks later thy were buyable in SF... I could implant at least 4 characters...
I didn't have a single implant on previous Reloaded session. I even don't know where or how to obtain one, so I have nothing to say about those yet.
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Wichura,
It's you who should get his shit together and stop replying on player's thoughts with bs.
This topic is to express our feelings about new server's set up so... we do so..., I did not blame anyone and I did not say that this or that needs to be changed (only that I hope in some particular changes)...
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Oh, I see, so it's thoughts, feedback or feelings when someone is posting, and when I do so it's bullshit? Double standards applied I believe? Well done.
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You are still bitching that someone's mentioning that this server is newbie friendly.
We are in Season 3 Thoughts topic, so your bitching is pointless and yes, treated as it is, you're not expressing your feelings about season 3 - you already did so, so I'm not really sure why you keep your shit-post parade going.
I'm done with you.
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Programmer and wichura who d fuck are u? i didnt saw u in game just once, u just some random forum motherfuckers saying whatever. THIS GAME IS NOT DIABLO 3 okay?
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At the end of the day, the server has been massively catered towards noobs to the detriment of the PvP apes.
Sure, it'd be great if loot drop was enabled, hexing was possible again and TC was back to how it was but we all know that's not going to happen. If you don't like it, I suggest finding somewhere else to play, that's what myself and quite a few others from TKs have done and it's been great. :)
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fo2 was great 2 years ago :(
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Programmer and wichura who d fuck are u? i didnt saw u in game just once, u just some random forum motherfuckers saying whatever. THIS GAME IS NOT DIABLO 3 okay?
I just loled here, who the fuck is wichura he is our old proffesional noob :D
But yeah I love to read all that salty tears
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wichura who d fuck are u?
fo2 was great 2 years ago :(
Oh thank you good sir, I was working on it back then and long before as a developer. I'm glad you've liked it.
I just loled here, who the fuck is wichura he is our old proffesional noob :D
Silence fool, some serious shit is being discussed here. Like "what happened to our beloved game we did absolutely nothing for apart from playing it and crying on forum".
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Back to topic :facepalm
Before i start with my thoughts i need to say i started back then with The Life After. Then i played 2238. And so i came to Reloaded. I wasnt never such a active player like others. Not in Forum and not in TC.
With starting season 3 i think there are some pros and cons.
Pros:
1.) beginner friendly
2.) many quests, jobs and activitys
3.) XP lost after level 24
4.) all Merchants buy everything, some with penalty
5.) no hex
6.) new weapons
Cons:
1.) no loot
2.) to less reason for PvP
3.) changes in TC
4.) static XP in caravan
One day i was also a noob in TLA. And it wasnt easy to get out of the spawn or to level up alone. And yes, it was mostly anoying than i get killed and lost all my stuff. But it was ok because it was allways exiting to do anything. And this was verry different from other online games. But since the wipe i really miss the exiting. I allways know nothing unforeseen will happen.
I think a good balance between beginner friendly and fun from older days will be a little change in no loot. Till level 24 you dont loose anything if you get killed. After level 24 you only loose XP. And now the change: After level 30 you can get looted too. I am sure all players who reached level 30 like the game and dont have a really problem to loose their gear.
I also like the idea out of a other thread to earn some XPs for PK. But maybe only in TC.
I think the reason to change TC was to made it more fair for all factions. Now every faction with required amount of members can take a town and benefit from the lockers and the XP every 5 minutes. But i dont like the new changes in TC. Because i think its boring. There is not really a reason for a other faction to defend a town. You only own the town as long as you are in there. Everything what happen after the TC doesnt really matter. Exept for the statistic of town domination. But thats only a statistic. And so TC is now much or less PvE (or like allready said PvM). In my opinion the old system was much more better.
From a certain level there is no incentive to do some caravan. Its only nice until level 40 or so.
For now it all looks like it takes a verry long time to get a high level char. Exept for all players who dont have a real life...
But what i really like is no more hex. Finally you can have a usefull HtH char. Also for some PvP actions.
Sorry, but after all i can say Reloaded is now more like World of Warcraft. Its all save and friendly. And you mainly fight against critters. Only the forum is still harsh as allways...
And sorry for my Kraut english ;)
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Silence fool, some serious shit is being discussed here. Like "what happened to our beloved game we did absolutely nothing for apart from playing it and crying on forum".
na actually i did some shit in second and this session . if not me ppl coulnd't run caravans this session ;D but we did nothing ofcourse, no1 donated, no1 reported bugs.
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I'm afraid due to language barrier and massive intelectual gap I cannot establish a communication link with an individual like you.
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I'm afraid due to language barrier and massive intelectual gap I cannot establish a communication link with an individual like you.
come on man its just ur old song not working anymore ;D
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there is propper place on server to engage enemies wihtout npcs :D
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"what happened to our beloved game we did absolutely nothing for apart from playing it and crying on forum".
This is getting old and nowhere wichu. You progress with critisiscm. People who like you tell you your defaults, those who don't just tell you sweet lies so you can be in your confort zone and fail so they can feel better than you.
We enjoy this server otherwise we would be like you and some others: trolling the shit out of every posts cause you dont give a flying frig. In that case you're wasting your time here and it's just kinda strange for a grown man.
For the rest, I'm one of those who thinks the no loot drop is good. Because i dont want to fucking grind my gear to lose it. Plain and simple.
in season 1 I didn't care because i could craft thousands of Combat armor or weapons easy. Now losing stuff is punishing, plain masochism and nowhere near fun.
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I Enjoy new session so far, i do not mind no drop (i never looted anyway) even tho I was a poor hexer i miss onehex, and i cannot speak about TC mechanics coz i did not TC this session yet. There is a lot of stuff that were changed, and i do think most of them for better. Everyone who knows me is aware that I was never for toxic approach, and this is why I don't miss shitting on enemies. In month or two we will see what is what, there is plenty of servers with drop and shiz so i do not understand this complaining. I do not go to AoP forum and complain about no quests and other PvE content. Just play and enjoy and if you do not enjoy switch servers. Reloaded is fresh and new in terms of being new player friendly server. I agree with Wichura in way, it is a attempt to dry the swamp of toxic wastes.
P.S.
If khans play this server I see no reason for rest to not play it :D
Peace
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I Enjoy new session so far, i do not mind no drop (i never looted anyway) even tho I was a poor hexer i miss onehex, and i cannot speak about TC mechanics coz i did not TC this session yet. There is a lot of stuff that were changed, and i do think most of them for better. Everyone who knows me is aware that I was never for toxic approach, and this is why I don't miss shitting on enemies. In month or two we will see what is what, there is plenty of servers with drop and shiz so i do not understand this complaining. I do not go to AoP forum and complain about no quests and other PvE content. Just play and enjoy and if you do not enjoy switch servers. Reloaded is fresh and new in terms of being new player friendly server. I agree with Wichura in way, it is a attempt to dry the swamp of toxic wastes.
P.S.
If khans play this server I see no reason for rest to not play it :D
Peace
in 2 monnths server will die and uv will dominate all the towns :D
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Awgan with ton of respect! but .. pvp is better in hinkly than in tc is a change for better? ???
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in 2 monnths server will die and uv will dominate all the towns :D
omg ded gaem!!1111 (c) 2238 since 2009.
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in 2 monnths server will die and uv will dominate all the towns :D
omg ded gaem!!1111 (c) 2238 since 2009.
Omg no brain troll since 2009 :facepalm
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btw when u can loot all enemi fags so they wont come for a weak after it IT WAS SUCH A FUCKING SATISFACTION.
Now if this isnt the stupidest thing i have ever read,then i dont know what is,or wait maybe this could be it: and no fking pvp at all. ppl in my ts stay all day in afk channel and some times cry in chat. so do i.
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btw when u can loot all enemi fags so they wont come for a weak after it IT WAS SUCH A FUCKING SATISFACTION.
Now if this isnt the stupidest thing i have ever read,then i dont know what is,or wait maybe this could be it: and no fking pvp at all. ppl in my ts stay all day in afk channel and some times cry in chat. so do i.
dude stupedest thing is ur avatar and ur nickname
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Yeah yeah whatever,kid.
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Yeah yeah whatever,kid.
It's just cheech Kebab, if you ignore him he'll eventually go away :D
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Yeah yeah whatever,kid.
It's just cheech Kebab, if you ignore him he'll eventually go away :D
ye and u are french :D
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Just a note on hexing, I'm personally glad it's gone.
I didn't think hexing was OP, but it was almost impossible for me to hex someone at 400 ping. Most of the time I'd glitch around a few hexes, fire when I was within one hex of my enemy, then get dragged away a few hexes because of the lag.
The removal of hexing does make it nicer on higher ping players that basically had to stick to snipers or shotgun tanks in previous seasons.
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Just a note on hexing, I'm personally glad it's gone.
I didn't think hexing was OP, but it was almost impossible for me to hex someone at 400 ping. Most of the time I'd glitch around a few hexes, fire when I was within one hex of my enemy, then get dragged away a few hexes because of the lag.
The removal of hexing does make it nicer on higher ping players that basically had to stick to snipers or shotgun tanks in previous seasons.
It's not just for pvp. They probably removed hexing or else their PvE will be too easy to do. Hex hide lure NPCs to corner hex hex profit repeat. :'(
Hexing to me was a way a smaller team can compete against a much larger team. Many times we killed UV and khans with this lmao #burstermeta
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Why can't I BURST and solo Ares???
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Well, one-hex was ideal way to oneshot with burst even tougher enemies :D
Now, I have no idea how to deal with slugs and the rest of them :/
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I'd say this is the funniest FOnline session I've ever played - it legitimately feels like a statement that it's impossible for anyone in this community to produce a legitimately good 2238-style season without reproducing some of the most annoying 2238 flaws at some point.
The new content is really good, hands down. But then again doing quests isn't why most people play this game.
The new experience earning methods were really good and then got nerfed to the ground, so we're back to farming centaurs - and since everyone has already had his fair share of that, the XP leaderboards haven't moved at all over the past few days.
No loot proved to be a success, but there is no incentive for PvP so TC essentially feels like playing Poker with play money. It's just a mildly entertaining experience/equipment sink - from a game theory perspective, it's pretty much pointless. It doesn't give you any power over other players, any advantage whatsoever. It's one of the most EV- activities in the game short of bursting guards in protected locations in your best gear.
No hexing is whatever, it's not the only force multiplier and good coordination/focus was always more important anyway.
All in all, it's like the devs got afraid that the game was actually getting too player-friendly and decided to up the grind just to make it feel like home. A few years ago this would probably make everyone really salty, but I feel like we just laugh it off these days, especially since no arguments are going to overcome this 2238 Stockholm syndrome. You can write about XP/hour rates and how much time it takes to level up your characters in other games all you want, you can point out that you get absolutely nothing from fighting other players, but if "so you want an Altruist in your tent?" is the only response you can hope to get, well... is it really worth the effort?
There must've been something truly great about Jovanka, as her shadow still looms over this game several years after she fucked off.
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Incredible reading.
Now that's what I call a forum post that have weight. for once no trolly useless shit. So glad to read that. You must have a godamn IQ of 260, if all players could post such constructive opinions this game would skyrocket in awesomness.
Me I like reloaded because admins aren't assholes. Even if not always agree with kilgore he's not an idiot. Same for docan and mojuk. Too bad they dont speak too much. A legend says someonoae heard DocAn speak in 1986..
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nice boat speaks pure truth. watch out it probably means you are biased and thus your opinion will be discarded despite the logic :/
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The new experience earning methods were really good and then got nerfed to the ground, so we're back to farming centaurs - and since everyone has already had his fair share of that, the XP leaderboards haven't moved at all over the past few days.
I've personally found this rather counter-intuitive as well. It doesn't make much sense to me to introduce a pile of new, really good ways of levelling only to nerf all of them (some to an unusable level) after a week or so.
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who said that fonline is a democratic game ?
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who said that fonline is a democratic game ?
Nobody but the forum has a thread for posting your thoughts. Thats whats happening.
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wanna say thank you to devs (uncharacteristic to me) but today night i had hella fun. 8)
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My thoughts.
Came back to play this game after two or more years pause.
Noticed that I'm not able to steal from players (no bomb drops in inventory)
No loot drop.
I just played few days now and the longer I play the less I want to play it, the only thing that keeps me is the new stuff that I have to experience.
Mostly I'm disappointed about the no loot drop.
There was something magical in the loot drop. with that the game was different, more challenging.
I understand that not many people play this game and the donations are not much so I think now this game is more friendly to new players and this easy mode will keep them playing.
I don't want to sound rude, I really love this game and have big respect to the developers and admins.
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I completely disagree that this session is friendlier to new players, I realise that this was probably the intention but I don't think the current set up keeps people interested whether they are a new player or time-served PvP ape. I no longer play but when I started out I found the fact that I could lose everything so easily a motivator rather than a deterrent (after the initial rages and adjustment of expectations, of course). Last session I was farming and crafting every spare moment I had, this session I felt comfortable with 3 sets of gear for fights that rarely happened.
And in the long void between fights, what can you do?
*Quests - Sure, if you want.
*Dungeons - Just need a small team who don't mind burning 1000s of ammo for a unique M60
*Farm Locations - Same again, gear is slightly better but you can still get better stuff on caravan.
*Crafting - You could invest your time gathering materials for the chance of crafting some statted gear, or you could just do caravan.
When I started out this was a very different game to what it has become - there were fights large and small everywhere and that, in my opinion was what kept the game alive. Taking your crafted gear to an unguarded town to barter and running into another player - fighting on a level playing field. But then for some reason we needed militia to guard the unguarded towns and that was the end of that, unless you call one autist from the controlling faction camping the town in bluesuit PvP.
And then the removal of hexing, I don't understand it unless the intention was to make the game harder and less accessible to a solo player. I know, naming no names - they all know who they are, that it was abused with hexbots etc but hexing was one thing could even the odds in any fight whether PvP or PvE and now you absolutely must have a team behind you in order to do anything that isn't caravan and given that a majority of players in the server were not part of the larger PvP factions I think it's pretty obvious what killed the server.
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The only thing that always differentiated FOnline from other MMOs was the no-bullshit-permadeath-full-loot-wasteland-is-harsh kind of deal. The game was always shitter than other MMOs on the market but now it's shitter and it lost its best feature. Why would I want to play subar FOnline PvE if I can play any other MMO and get 10 times better experience? The argument that it helps new players is flawed because the game doesn't offer anything that could compete with other MMOs. Earlier, the noobs would play, die a few times, get frustrated and leave or realise that they enjoy the thrill of open PvP and stay. Now, they play for a while, realise the game offers nothing and leave quietly.
Let's face it, people play FOnline because they were dropped right after birth and they enjoy ruining someone else's day. Killing a player and ruining his progress, blowing yourself up in NCR or stealing from the noobs were the best parts of the game. Griefing was always the bread and butter of FOnline. It's kinda ironic that this change comes from the person that ran the most ruthless gang during the times of 2238 server. I'm not even gonna comment on the fact of forum censorhip, in the last days of 2238, Kilgore was the most vocal about the moderators that deleted posts criticizing the game. I guess the power corrupts. :facepalm
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Or with time you learn few things.
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> making a free to play game for 150 players worldwide in peak hours
> being corrupted by "power"
(https://new2.fjcdn.com/comments/I+lold+hard+1010+_785e81bf214b0070932fbd9025e27a4d.png)
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Wichura's posts are just epic. ;D
You make my day bro !
If you don't like the server and you want to do something else, maybe you are up for something better ? Any ideas ? Does someone want to start learning C++ at least ? Create his own FOnline with Blackjack and Hookers ?
No one would do it. So why would the DEVs do it for you?
In my humble opinion, those who grew up on 2238 and it's "harshness", learned how to survive, bypassed the rules and abused the game in order to get an advantage (Hinkley looting/tobacco farm/ SE farm etc.). Little did they knew, that they were actually destroying the game since the beginning. If a DEV spends more time fixing abuses and banhammerstriking for duallog/festrelog rather than implementing more ideas, no wonder that we end up here.
Anyway, opinions are devided and I wish to all those who liked the changes to enjoy the game and keep the community up and for those who disliked them either to adapt or to do something else.
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Thank you, Urukhai! Well said. A bunch of us are enjoying the game for years and years, and even more now since the changes. Want something else? Go build it yourself.
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the one good thing that a wipe does, is make people change the way they play the game.
new rules/strategies/tactics and bitches.
is the cup half full or half empty.
figure out a way to fill it up.
change up your game play.
find a way to find others stashes, if stealing is your thing.
kill everything that moves, or follow them.
and then kill them.
whatever floats your boat and fills your glass.
but have fun doing it.
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Uruk, you serious?
So if I decide to run a game by myself and people who join it and play should not report bugs if they find any but rather keep playing so I can add more and more stuff unaware of current broken shit?
Great thinking there bud!
And why would dev do anything for us? This is not one-sided favor. Devs are running this for us, improving and we are playing it, donating, suggesting, reporting bugs.
One side cannot live without the other one, there goes single players mate.
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> making a free to play game for 150 players worldwide in peak hours
50 after S3 :)
Wichura's posts are just epic. ;D
Nah, its just random offtop and thrashtalk from person, that have literally nothing to say, but NEED the attention like oxygen
They don't do anything because there aren't news, updates and forum activity. People have already said some things are broken and should be fixed but nothing happen. The game still is broken and players counter is low because FOnline Reloaded exhausted all possibilities. Players are sad, bored, angry and wait for what? For wipe with reverted changes in next 3 years.
+1
Fixing bugs, broken mechanics, listening to community, trying to improve the game, that was broken by devs ignorance and unpreparedness to incoming changes? Naaaaaaaaah.
Ignoring, delete and move any negative response to troll subforums, taunt and laugh at community members that not agree with shitty, and stupid decision making that ruined the game? Hell fucking yeah baby!
xD
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@POWERPUFF
Yes bud I am serious. I helped before this game. Did some maps back in 2016 and 2014. Example: https://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=5341.0. It was asked by the players. I did it, posted screens, people loved it and it was promised to be added after wipe, but I still haven't seen it during this season nor in the season 2. The map was done 3 years ago! Haha. And this only one example amongst many others.
What I meant buddy is that the game might be broken, but people are broken in the first place. If you know that there is an exploit, why would you abuse it?
Every time a read a suggestion "add this, add that", 95% of answers are like "can be abused".
This is why I said that if you want to see changes, do it yourself.
@Programmer
People are disappointed for 3 main reasons: No hexing, No Looting, No old school TC. This is enough to ruin the PvP experience. And those who were mainly doing pvp are lost now. They can blame DEVs, they can blame the community, they can blame the game, in the end it won't change anything. (as my example of mapping for the community)
If the DEVs are not fixing bugs, maybe they have no time, maybe they don't know how to fix them.
@Pieskov
I know that Wichura's second nickname is "Wichuja" (given by the community :D)
But this guys is just hilarious. I never enjoyed reading one's posts as I do enjoy reading his.
If any of you are skilled in programming or have some ideas, regroup, PM me. Let's talk about this.
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> 50 players, ded gaem, players are leaving, devs are gay, AIDS is being spread
> seeking for attention among such crowd
(http://dobrochan.ru/src/jpg/1107/I-lol-d-tulen.jpg)
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Maybe the eventual blessing in disguise to come out of this will be that people might actually give Aftertimes a chance when it eventually returns instead of not playing reloaded and hanging around the forum crying about wipe.
Well, now we've had the legendary wipe and it should be out of everybody's system now, I know some people have problem-solved by playing FOnline2 so maybe we can all make the leap to giving new servers a chance too.
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This is just the beginning of the future of FOnline. Have faith.
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This is just the beginning of the future of FOnline. Have faith.
The future isn't what it used to be.
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jeez just play fo2 if you dont like reloaded
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People are disappointed for 3 main reasons: No hexing, No Looting, No old school TC. This is enough to ruin the PvP experience. And those who were mainly doing pvp are lost now.
When season 3 started I was all randy, wanted to try out what had been advertised for years. I created a character, escaped the tutorial thingy, and then found out that crafting had became a pain in the ass. All my hopes where that I could craft without spending too much time what I used to loot. Adding to this that hexing was removed, and thus the possibility to fight multiple opponents by using environment and timing, which make farming safer and faster (also NPC drops got nerfed hard). So, I had little time to play, but there was no shortcut to acces gear, at least not the few I knew from before. Well, the only way to advance in the game was to do time consuming quests and shit like that, but that's not why I was playing the game in the first time. I almost don't know anything about the quests because I never did any. I would just kill NPCs, science everything, craft basic gear, then go kill someone to get better one. Once I have decent shit I would join for larger scale PVP. From what I've heard, TC isn't a thing anymore, more like the militia bullshit I hated so much.
To sum up, the game I love was the perfect balance of a month of farming that would last the rest of the session of endless pvp (I always looted a little bit more than I lost on average). It seems this game no longer exist, I feel like when 2238 closed: "it's over, go do something else".
The features that kept me entertained are gone, and thus, so am I.
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New features are coming to help reignite server.
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New features are coming to help reignite server.
Thanks for info <3
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I tried to like it but the no loot is too much for me, ruined game... rip fallout online reloaded, you will always have a place in my heart^^
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I like a special application (http://columbus-deluxe-777.com) for Fallout on Android - Fallout Shelter! it's awesome! thank you for this video attaching! this season is gonna be perfect!
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I like a special application (http://columbus-deluxe-777.com) for Fallout on Android - Fallout Shelter! it's awesome! thank you for this video attaching! this season is gonna be perfect!
fuck of bethesda, no one wants to play ur gayass faggot games
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It's natural for many to blame other people for faults. Crying for session 2 coming back is just selfish thinking about the game and what you need from the game. Chin up!, and be more objective.
First of all: what software is? BITS. We can set the rules, change it many times, improve the game, step back, step forward. Everything depends on the communication between people involved. And some of you crying like babies that something you like has changed and will never come back. Maybe because you just simply can't kindly present any idea. It's a game for adult pople, be adult please.
Always start from yourself. If the game you like has changed, it seems that some other people didnt like it as much as you. Want to be egoistic in the community? You have the result.
Be objective, dont think only about yourself and your friends, this incredible game should be played by hundreds, not dozens.
If you dont like something, tell what you like first, and tell what you dislike kindly and try to understand people who thinks opposite, not like baby who wants a candy. Many of you only put pressure on devs, without approving anything. It doesn't work this way :)
I really like this game and i feel that current mechanics is a response for abusing the game by some people in the past. Some of them, unfortunately will never notice this issue. This game shoud be treated gently, because there is a great idea behind it.
I still have fun, i like new quests, dungeons, and i'm gona present some new ideas in further posts.
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I'm not really sure if you played season 1 and season 2 but what you said is a bullshit.
We played and some of us still play this game and we liked and disliked things in season 2 as well as we like and dislike things in season 3.
The difference between season 2 & season 3 is not small and it has a huge impact to (now I can say it) 50%+ of player-base.
People were repeating what's wrong, what's broken, what's causing many players to leave but they also mentioned what's good and appreciated the good work. Some people even donated (to my surprise also PvP players for whom this season isn't dedicated). People also brought many ideas how to fix things. If you only read that before you speak loud.
So, take your wanna-be-adult-and-clever message back and stick it up right into your ass, because it has no added value.
Constructive criticism as well as appreciation has already been told, so there's no need in bringing this all back.
PS: PvE players are getting bored too - if you didn't know.
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If you take a look at the Initial changelog (of season 1) you can see that a huge amount of work has been done in a relatively short timespan and also tons of changelogs in the upcoming year. Then the wipe was "announced" (https://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=5228.0) less than a year after the start - followed by years without any significant updates. I am sure that this was the point when the development has overall stopped and the dev team started giving 0 fucks, otherwise we would have a great game by now.
While i don't see a problem with that, i do not understand the decision of running the game for almost 4 more years after the interest in development has declined. Kilgore is right, noone is forced to play the game, and it's free, they dont owe the players anything, blah blah, but the game was already very popular and if you typed "FOnline" in Google, the first thing that came up was always Reloaded. They have made a popular game with great potential and they decided to stop working on it.
But that's okay, perhaps they got busy in life or just became bored with devving, there is nothing wrong about that. Then the most reasonable and obvious decision would have been to give the leadership to another dev team (and as far as i have heard there were some volunteers for that) and let them take the legacy, and even though the source code has been released, another project just simply could not compete with the fame the Reloaded "trademark" has. So instead we got years of silence and a wipe, for which people asked because of the unbalanced pre-wipe-smelling updates during the first session, and which brought some balance and new client features, but nothing revolutionary. Hence the nickname "session 1.5".
I am pretty sure that the current Season 3 is nowhere close to what the dev team has initially planned, instead it is just a half-complete, bugged emergency bone that is thrown into the crowd to chew on and shut them up. Also the "i am devving for fun sometimes at weekends but that's all" attitude does not fit a game with this large popularity (not the player numbers, but the registered forum users and overall gamers ever found this game).
There's no doubt that the core playerbase (so-cal PVP apes) of Reloaded is above-average cancerous (Khans coming here was just fuel to the fire), and i can understand the fact that Kilgore has lost motivation to do anything for these people. You are right, you owe us nothing, but i don't think it would've been so much of an effort to say "Hey, fuck you's all, we arent developing the game anymore, there wont be a real wipe and y'all can fuck off finally". Other than that, they are the majority, if we dont count the newcomers who leave after 2 days of playing because of disappointment/getting bored to death, or the 20 players that play on a regular basis today (bots?).
I love the fact that there are still many bugs and exploits that are thousand years old and would take few minutes to fix. The attempts to balance the server usually ended up with half-solutions such as removing reno locker instead of rebalancing its loot, or removing hexing "because of hex bots" which are said to be "easy to detect" and therefore easy to make an anticheat script against, or removing full loot to avoid new players being made RQ too early - instead of making a proper noob protection system. Just to mention a more recent case, Telltales got nerfed so much that they are not worth to do at all.
Other than all of that, to quote someone who wrote in this thread earlier, if a casual Fallout fan wants to have real PVE experience, they will go and play the original Fallout 1/2. PVE in FOnline should mean quests and group tasks that require player (versus player) interaction to complete to take advantage of the fact that its a multiplayer game. PVE should'nt be about loners doing quests by themselves. Of course the game requires this kind of content too, but NOT at the cost of removing the two core aspects of PVP gameplay and basically ruining the whole thing. And again, there are little to no updates since the wipe so people are fed up reasonably. I think Reloaded still has the largest potential among all FOnlines, but the development has took a wrong way and it would be a pity if the game died this way.
The best thing about reloaded was the fact that you could get stuff easily and then just go and PVP, except there were a relatively small amount of places where you could find players to kill. FO2 has already implemented many good ideas regarding balance and PVP opportunities, but the game is an autistic grindfest and if you are not a hardcore masochist you wouldn't enjoy your stay there. All that Reloaded needed was more dungeons/random events, balanced loot, nerf to bottable stuff, nerf to grenade launcher, and a more balanced economy. This alone could've made it the greatest server and after this you could have thought about the next steps of development.
FOnline has been around for almost a decade and still noone could make a decent game with more than 200 players, and it's not the graphics or the age of the game to blame. It's probably better to let Reloaded and the rest fade away and look for other games, at least the internet can forget about one of its most cancer smelling places which is this community including the devs.
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I'm not really sure if you played season 1 and season 2
Yes i did. If your message is that everything is broken, why you still playing and visit forum?
You can offend me and spell clever comebacks, but it doesnt change anything.
We are here becouse we like or liked this game, so we all have the same goal - to make it alive again.
I know that many people put a lot effort in trying to change things and nothing happened for many years, but is complaining only thing you can do now?
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The best thing about reloaded was the fact that you could get stuff easily and then just go and PVP, except there were a relatively small amount of places where you could find players to kill. FO2 has already implemented many good ideas regarding balance and PVP opportunities, but the game is an autistic grindfest and if you are not a hardcore masochist you wouldn't enjoy your stay there. All that Reloaded needed was more dungeons/random events, balanced loot, nerf to bottable stuff, nerf to grenade launcher, and a more balanced economy. This alone could've made it the greatest server and after this you could have thought about the next steps of development.
That exactly.
For what it is worth I actually like the new quests but I would have liked to have seen them added to the game I was playing not a completely different game which just looks like the one I used to play. I keep trying to like Reloaded with all the rough edges taken off for "Health & Safety" reasons but I can't.
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I'm not really sure if you played season 1 and season 2
Yes i did. If your message is that everything is broken, why you still playing and visit forum?
You can offend me and spell clever comebacks, but it doesnt change anything.
We are here becouse we like or liked this game, so we all have the same goal - to make it alive again.
I know that many people put a lot effort in trying to change things and nothing happened for many years, but is complaining only thing you can do now?
You just proved several things:
You know nothing about this community.
You know nothing about me.
You didn't and don't read or you have hard time to understand written text.
You repeat empty words.
You are not worth my time explaining these points, you are simply dumb and without experiences but trying to look clever, that's it.
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You just proved several things:
You know nothing about this community.
You know nothing about me.
You didn't and don't read or you have hard time to understand written text.
You repeat empty words.
You are not worth my time explaining these points, you are simply dumb and without experiences but trying to look clever, that's it.
Yeah, but you know everything about me instatntly, like that im "dumb". The only person who wants to look smart in this conversation is you, my dear. I didnt attack anyone personally in my first post, but you took it personally, i dont know why. I still will not offend you, but you do it with pleasure. I think you have a problem, because you cant stand other people's voice, and trying to shut my mouth with your trashtalk. You are experienced player, but a snob. Lets finish, talking with you leads to nowhere.
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Game is deceased. However life sprouts from death.
I am not happy with how this season went, but I won't bludgeon what the developers are attempting to do with it now.
R.I.P my lads from Season 2, and if any of you are playing this season I wish you good times :)
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So much dread and doom in this thread, jees take some anti-depressants lol.
The last two days i've seen an influx of new players, who i believe like most nowadays aren't very interested in pvp.
They just wanna shoot npc's with friends. Pvp may be what the game used to be all about, but times seem to have changed, don't be salty.
I think focusing more on PvE and RP would be a good idea, let fo2 focus on pvp.
Also, not to sound conspiratorial but whenever i question people ingame that in chat do little more than bash the game. It always turns out they are from fo2 community. I get the feeling they want to see reloaded fail. Don't let up developers! You have a strong fanbase, it may dwindle at times but new players will always come.
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Reloaded will never die, we know what we're doing. Sometimes you just gotta put up the "Under Construction" sign, and ignore the backlash.
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Well Hyinforti just nailed it.
This game is awesome. It's alive and thriving. All of the people playing it more than a month, are loving it. All of us. That includes PvP people. We PvP people love this game even more now. By turning off player loot drop, PvP is greatly enhanced. This is for 2 main reasons: 1) less total jackasses so PvP fights are more about fun and less about vendettas, and 2) because rare items can be confidently used over and over without the immediate loss penalty we had before when you lost a fight. Every single player fight ends in a win or a loss. It's roughly 50/50, so you might have that rare PA for 2 fights before you'd lose it before. But now? Go ahead and use your best items, because you can use them 20 times before deterioration is a problem. Then repair it and use it some more. Now, finally, we can use a rare item enough times to actually get thru some testing.
But what about all the negative comments? Hyinforti nailed it - most are people who fall into 2 categories:
1) They cheated, got caught, got banned, and miss Reloaded. They moved to 2, still miss Reloaded, and only come here to express it. If any of them were more honest and mature, they might not complain, but say instead: "I deserve being banned. I messed up. The other server isn't the same. Maybe some day Kilgore will let me back on." Or maybe even, "I'm a jackass. I was only here to upset people and drive them away. My vote should not even count, but you idiots still let me talk here." Quintessentially, they might even say, "I HATE YOU ALL. I hope i can come back to Reloaded so i can continue destroying your game."
But don't expect them to say these things. These are humble things to say. Honest things. Mature things. We have a distinct lack of maturity. The mass exodus of jackasses has increased the average maturity level. Keep them out and we have a chance.
2) They never did play this game for its intended content - they only used this game to express their real-life anger issues.
Here we have a free game with a wide open map and infinite RP potential. And now in Season 3, add a TON of new features, quests, locations, PvE content, etc. Yeah, this game has never been so great. Lander's Point helps a new guy. Town Control is working. PvP is working. Ares is working. We have the farm feature, and an expanded BoS quest-line with a members-only repeatable end dungeon (which few have even seen).
But the #1 best thing we have now is....*drumroll*...far fewer jackasses. If you have the right attitude, this game is the best its ever been.
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Sorry Henry, but your post is totaly a fail.
1.) You say there was a 50/50 chance to loose a PvP fight and also to loose your stuff. But next time you win and get some new stated equipment back. And all PvP players had a faction to help each other with lost gear. So only crybabys or greedy players starts whineing about theire lost gear.
2.) I know a lot of players who played season 3. And they all stopped playing after 2-3 months because they dont love season 3. Same to me. (I only still read from time to time this forum.) So you cant say they dont know about all the content. The decision to leave this game was about the content
3.) The most of this players which you called jackasses where realy nice guys. But to call them jackasses, cheaters or so is only realy poor.
Its possible that some of you love season 3. And thats ok. But its also ok if many players dont love this season, telling their oppinion (doesnt matter in which way because they want to leave and you dont need to reply) and leaving the game. Thats not a drama.
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So you cant say they dont know about all the content. The decision to leave this game was about the content
Well, I just wanted to say that I play mostly for the content, and enjoying it. I see a lot of work that devs put into, and im glad i could discover it.
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Let's be clear: nobody left because of new added content. That doesn't make any sense. Adding more content makes game better. No, they left because they 1) were kicked out for cheating (finally), or 2) they can't seem to upset people as much any more (no loot drop), or both.
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Let's be clear: nobody left because of new added content. That doesn't make any sense. Adding more content makes game better. No, they left because they 1) were kicked out for cheating (finally), or 2) they can't seem to upset people as much any more (no loot drop), or both.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, whatever I'd like to suggest you do with it :) But it's (drum roll) wrong!
1. I never cheated and have never had a single character banned from this game.
2. For me it wasn't about upsetting people, it was either fighting 1v1 as equals or overcoming unfavorable odds in an uneven fight. Now 2 people can range burst each other if they like but to most normal people that gets old fast. Or if you happen to stumble into a larger group you will now lose as there is only range burst/aim shot. That isn't PvP however you try to frame it.
So the earth is round after all.
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THE EARTH IS FLAT! RELOADED HAS PLAYERS!
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LOL! Nobody is talking about that Reloaded have no players. And nobody is talking about the maybe a handfull of players who really get banned. We talking about the 100 players who left the game voluntary.
Does it makes any sense to develop a online game and cut away the bigest part of the fanbase?
Here a little list of changes and reasons why people really left. Its all readable in this forum. And thats the only truth.
-significant changes in town control
-no loot drop
-no implants
-no T4 gear
-no one hex demage
-only broken gear loot from NPCs
-too much junk in crafting recipts
-low market prizes for ammo
-most quests, dungeons and legandarys are only beatable in roundbased fights
-reduced XP gaining (f.e. static XP in caravans after reaching level 24)
-disable stealing
-no fixing of bugs which still exist since Fonline 2238
-and maybe some of the still existing forum trolls...
You wanna play a RPG? But after death you start with full gear? Its a arcade.
You wanna play a RPG but you are afraid about interact with other players? Whats this? But only doing together dungeons and legendaries is no RPG.
If this game is really as great as i can read again and again why not even one percent of the registered forum members (in numbers 12302) are playing it? For me this looks like missed potential. And dont talk about the age of this game or the grafic or any alt accounts or useless trolls. Thats all doesnt matter for a really nice ingame experience.
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I was only talking about the people who left. You're both still here. I'm so glad we found a few exceptions. Great.
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I'm looking forward for some fresh juicy updates.
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I'm looking forward for some fresh juicy updates.
Me too!! still waiting on the boys. Ignore previous trolls, they really know NOTHING about Season 3. Their delusions are sad. Please, seek help.
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Let's be clear: nobody left because of new added content. That doesn't make any sense. Adding more content makes game better. No, they left because they 1) were kicked out for cheating (finally), or 2) they can't seem to upset people as much any more (no loot drop), or both.
Add conten is good, change concept is bad if concept is good...it is true it was poor with PVE content before, and now is is more then good, developers do great job in that way and salute that, they put a lot of time to write scripts. On begining of season 3, do you think Khan faction was go to kill other players? Noup we was exploring new content, to see what is everything new... But they hard penalise whole group of people ...PVP players. Many people get caugh chaeting and banned, and they back to this game with proxy servers to play or wait ban expire, or create new character and start from begining... now people don't get some much bans and they not return Heanry, that is fact. If you see complains of some people who don't play and sometime write here post to complain how is game is ruined it is from nostalgy for season 2 what was great game. I dont remember i was play any game so long like season 2 reloaded. I know other players who play for years, and now is gone... Even factions give cancer sometimes on forum, they make even forum more alive... even players in faction wars, they play together, talk each other in game...sometimes bad things was spoken, but sometimes we speak totaly normal each other, make jokes, laugh together etc. I play sometimes here...not like before... waiting and hope i will find something in game was happen, and many people from season 2 who left, I will see them again to play with them or aganst them, to speak with them...
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Let's be clear: nobody left because of new added content. That doesn't make any sense. Adding more content makes game better. No, they left because they 1) were kicked out for cheating (finally), or 2) they can't seem to upset people as much any more (no loot drop), or both.
:facepalm this point is simply flawed by execution, players can leave if they don't like the content added or removed. in my opinion though, the only good thing added from this wipe was the PVE stuff, basically nothing else. pvp is shit and boring now, and the thrill of the game is completely lost. why make a classic fallout based RPG where you can't lose loot? you could say that in classic fallout you never lost loot to begin with, but that's because the game is singleplayer and was meant to be singleplayer. when you die in game, the game doesn't just reload your save, it's basically a game over (hence the dead vault dweller and the quote about you being dead once you die). the only reason you kept your stuff is because of saving and such. but it made perfect sense for you to lose your things in a multiplayer fallout game. when everyone can keep their loot and just repair it, there is no reason to even pvp besides dicking around, and even that aspect is lost in reloaded. there's nothing to do besides dick around with the new quests which have writing that is decent at best and amateur at the least. there's a reason that so many players left reloaded, and that's because pvp is dead and there's no loot drops. pvp kept people playing to begin with. when you basically take that away, and a deep mechanic such as hexing, who cares about sitting at range and bursting? it's boring. just because the game is free does not mean it's immune to criticism.
TL;DR: the majority of the playerbase did not want the changes to begin with and they can leave if they don't like the new content. your point doesn't make sense because you insinuate that every PVP player is an asshole and a big meanie head who just wants to piss people off, when in reality they played for the thrill of the loot and for the action
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Let's be clear: nobody left because of new added content. That doesn't make any sense. Adding more content makes game better. No, they left because they 1) were kicked out for cheating (finally), or 2) they can't seem to upset people as much any more (no loot drop), or both.
:facepalm this point is simply flawed by execution, players can leave if they don't like the content added or removed. in my opinion though, the only good thing added from this wipe was the PVE stuff, basically nothing else. pvp is shit and boring now, and the thrill of the game is completely lost. why make a classic fallout based RPG where you can't lose loot? you could say that in classic fallout you never lost loot to begin with, but that's because the game is singleplayer and was meant to be singleplayer. when you die in game, the game doesn't just reload your save, it's basically a game over (hence the dead vault dweller and the quote about you being dead once you die). the only reason you kept your stuff is because of saving and such. but it made perfect sense for you to lose your things in a multiplayer fallout game. when everyone can keep their loot and just repair it, there is no reason to even pvp besides dicking around, and even that aspect is lost in reloaded. there's nothing to do besides dick around with the new quests which have writing that is decent at best and amateur at the least. there's a reason that so many players left reloaded, and that's because pvp is dead and there's no loot drops. pvp kept people playing to begin with. when you basically take that away, and a deep mechanic such as hexing, who cares about sitting at range and bursting? it's boring. just because the game is free does not mean it's immune to criticism.
TL;DR: the majority of the playerbase did not want the changes to begin with and they can leave if they don't like the new content. your point doesn't make sense because you insinuate that every PVP player is an asshole and a big meanie head who just wants to piss people off, when in reality they played for the thrill of the loot and for the action
All these years later and Henry is still a massive pussy. Dog bless
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You know... we have source available for Season 1 + 2. Have you considered making your own server? There are many others. If they aren't popular by now, then clearly their design and ideas are not very popular. Since the release of Season 3, I have not seen a single new server trying to make FOnline Great Again! What gives? Methinks that most people's opinion on what makes a good FOnline server is simply wrong, or else they'd be wayyyy more popular servers outside of the mainstream ones like Reloaded.
Keep bitching though, maybe someday your efforts will produce something new? Until then, suck it up, and enjoy Season 3! New content coming soon! All news is usually talked about over Discord, and not the forums. So if you're out of the loop on upcoming planned features I will not be surprised why!
Yes! We have talked about so many new and planned features, we even have a Trello! But you probably didn't know that, did you? I bet you guys haven't even played 75% of the new content either. Enjoy your tears :)
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Okay, which bits of Season 3 are enjoyable?
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Hola Hej,
Depends what you are like to do and what is enjoyable for you.
This seasson is awesome for anyone who has like roleplay, original Fallout universum, doing like variable quests, jobs, explore wasteland or like looking for news adventures or challenges with friends or solo.
And much more, i can find something new in game still.
If you are pvp ape and like swarming/camping to others so try other server.
Everyone can choose, so no need to many hates for hard and nice devs works here.
Peace 8)
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Okay, which bits of Season 3 are enjoyable?
Kilgore memes.
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You know... we have source available for Season 1 + 2. Have you considered making your own server? There are many others. If they aren't popular by now, then clearly their design and ideas are not very popular. Since the release of Season 3, I have not seen a single new server trying to make FOnline Great Again! What gives? Methinks that most people's opinion on what makes a good FOnline server is simply wrong, or else they'd be wayyyy more popular servers outside of the mainstream ones like Reloaded.
Keep bitching though, maybe someday your efforts will produce something new? Until then, suck it up, and enjoy Season 3! New content coming soon! All news is usually talked about over Discord, and not the forums. So if you're out of the loop on upcoming planned features I will not be surprised why!
Yes! We have talked about so many new and planned features, we even have a Trello! But you probably didn't know that, did you? I bet you guys haven't even played 75% of the new content either. Enjoy your tears :)
yeah, because definitely i should have to make my own server to enjoy a game.. maybe your team should take criticism from it's players into account instead of stroking your own ego? just because your game is free and done by a small team does not mean it's devoid of criticism. but you can do whatever you want with it, the player numbers speak for itself ::)
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Yes I think the difference between a developer and a player confuses him, though I think the aversion to criticism (otherwise known as 'crying') is something that has been part of the culture for a long time.
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If this session lived up to Fallout's singleplayer experience then NMA would be all over it. Guess what, they aren't.
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Well, I did all those things and while, as I've said before the quest stuff is nice, it is no substitute for the PvP and vibrant community there was before.
And yes I was aware this is a 'beta test' (albeit a very long one) and in keeping with the fine tradition of tests, what's happening now is known as "feedback".
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I bet you guys haven't even played 75% of the new content either.
Many of the players wasn't playing for the PVE side of the game. And whats the point of playing a multiplayer game if you don't meet anyone in the wastes? Because now you clearly won't.
I love fact that you still haven't given any good reason why hexing and loot were removed. It seems like all this is just a massive trolling.
Me and the people i played this session with have checked the new content, and tbh many of the quests are just dont feel falloutish at all. I don't get the telltales either. Thousand-year old bugs and abuses are still not fixed, suggestions and feedback aren't welcome, and other than you adding some new quests nothing significant happened (except killing PVP as a whole).
Now that full loot and hexing is gone, people expected at least some kind of rebalance regarding pvp activities, dungeons and their loot, etc, but of course nothing happened. The current session which cannot even be called a beta did not match the expectations of 3 years of "development" that is claimed to be done.
TL;DR you guys arent good devs and managed to fuck up everything, yet you think you did an amazing job and its all the players' fault. Looking forward to your response with the keywords "cry", "hater", "pvp ape", etc. Im out.
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I'm also disenchanted by this session, I understand changes to hex and no drop was a good experiment. I gave the session a benefit of doubt and tried to enjoy it. The changes to crafting, leveling, town control am unhappy with. No loot now seems like a bad idea. Sniper needs high level and now leveling through crafting was removed which is a bad for snipers. I don't enjoy the quests, I think they are cheesy, too dramatic, wordy, and poorly written. Feels like no new features except the quests and nerf to crafting, private mines, leveling, and a furniture shop with no new base furniture.
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Just make all towns safe except for tc and bring back loot drop. This way people dont scrounge together caps just to get ambushed trying to get a profession or something. That was the real abuse of the game by ultra trolls. The loot drop did add some excitement /reason to this. Ut campers in dungeons and in towns spoiled it for many.
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Hm, just dropped by to visit server and to see if players love the changes (no loot, in particular) and since September 2017 playerbase dropped by 70% of what Season 2 used to have. That was BAD change. Yes, I said that before multiple times, even when S2 prima aprillis fun was made for No Loot and yet most people bitched at me, arguing that no Loot is a must. No, my friends:
I will repear shortly. I started play F1 and F2 in 1996 and I loved those games. As a teenager (I was 16yo that time) i dreamed to have it multiplayer (well, there was no internet in Poland, but young boy can dream of his own party in the wastelands). So, when i found FOnline I was more then happy. Game was HARSH for newbies, many things worked different then in original games (F1 and F2), but the thrill of being pray or a hunter made it worth of play. In season 2 I had lots of fun with my friends from Peacekeepers, and I wanted to see some changes in upcoming Season 3. Well, PVE changes were great and PVE change of Hexing was even good too, but No loot killed this game for me - I see no point for playing multiplayer game that feels like singleplayer, where interaction between players is based only on some trading (if there is) or dumb shooting.
And if there are some players who LiKe this change, well maybe that 35 average/day shows how good that change was.
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It's funny when people who used to abuse certain game features by running multiple game clients are talking about average player number as indicator of anything :D
I have absolutely no problem with some troublemakers (sadly, 90% of them are/were pvp players) not playing the game, less headache for me. Nowadays I receive no reports from desperate people just because they died, killed by another dude who fastrelogged, duallogged, or reportedly received some GM help abuse from me, free scouting or whatever. I don't waste tons of time removing stupid posts/threads made only to annoy some other pvp faction, and numerous new accounts of idiots that were banned previously for posting total crap.
I have to admit, it's something very good. If I knew, I would make such changes long ago. There are much less assholes playing the game and it saves a lot of our time.
The rest of players plays the game as usual, people come and go after playing for a while. Stay tuned for an update that has been prepared mostly by Corosive, we'll throw it into the game after we fix some minor recent problems. Thanks.
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It's funny when people who used to abuse certain game features by running multiple game clients are talking about average player number as indicator of anything :D
I know you aiming at me. At some point I used 1 (one) account to run through desert in order to find SE, which gave me 5 SE during ten days and It was NOT against rules, but I believe (and admit) it was abusage - turned out with ban for that account and I agreed with that. Second account was played without any distortions. So, if you hint that 1 character logged for around ten days was boosting playerbase count for almost 2 years of Season 2... that makes me laugh :)
By reading your post I noticed one thing, in history of mankind there was a person who ruled some part of globe and spoke like you: No people, no problem :) At this moment FOnline has 75% player base shortened, and you are happy because people don't bitch/do stupid post? Well, forum seems to be abandoned, game is deserted, and Fallout 2 stand alone seems better option because of story (and some much better gear gained there). I will tell you a secret: if there will be no players at all, there will be no post/messages ect. Great, don't you agree?
There were some problems with Session 2 (I don't know the talks about cheating, because I never knew about cheats here), but seems S3 did good job in getting it fixed and I liked new features. Except no loot. And I am speaking from position where I can honestly say I am average player in terms of skill, thus this I was cannon fodder for most experienced players. I produced more gear then I could get of players by killing them and I still liked it. The thrill of a hunt was essence of Fallout online. Since it's gone and 75% get off board, seems not only I was here for that feature.
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Agree with Shamessa... Nice words "The thrill of a hunt was essence of Fallout online."
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Okay I guess that you will feel better playing Fallout 2 instead of posting your sorrows on a dead board, so why waste time on it?
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I don't feel wasting time writing this - I have high hopes that there will be change for No Loot system, that's all. It's the same thing I had high hopes as a teenager to play and compete online with other players - that dream come true when I found FOnline. You should see my face when I loged for the first time. Since last September I visit forums and the game to see if there is change that will give me what I (and not only I) want to see :)
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And so the Great FOnline Mandala have done yet another circle.
Although last time I've read "go play singleplayer Fallouts u n00b" was on 2238 forum, towards some Mad Max Wannabes.
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And so the Great FOnline Mandala have done yet another circle.
Although last time I've read "go play singleplayer Fallouts u n00b" was on 2238 forum, towards some Mad Max Wannabes.
The Great FOnline Mandala doesn't exist. It got too worn out and broke to pieces.
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I like most of the additions and changes. The tutorial area is a nice touch. I like that you can talk to most npcs for a mini quest when you die it is more of a no harm,no foul and get to keep your items. This may just be me but I don't remember getting absolutely rocked by AI at a lower level I uses to be able to fight against say a small bandit encounter. Overall though I am enjoying it and can't wait to check out the new stuff that has been added.
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Good, because its really a great game/project - just the lack of players to interact and play content with, is frustrating.
Even moreso, the fact, that "most" (not all) content is twice as effective to play solo, compared too, together. (Xp halved/split, loot halved/split.. ontop of scares loot drops especially statted..)
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I played last session as a loner enjoying the PvE content. I loved the PvP aspect of the game because it added an extra element of danger to the game even though I never purposefully engaged in PvP gameplay. I would always run from a fight if able, fight if cornered, but usually died running. Course I rarely carried any gear on me at all, nothing that I couldn't replace easily anyways so the looting never really bugged me any. I can only think of one time I got killed carrying anything and that was when I was moving loot to my base from a FOB and got pulled into an encounter with a player. I lost lots of blueprints which bugged me. With that said, I want to play again this session but it seems to be in testing so I don't want to start then just get wiped again. I don't mind losing the stuff mind you, just all that time from last session is just wasted. I was only like level 45ish which was a huge grind for a player who probably never killed anything more significant than a bandit or a scorpion... What I am asking is with this new session, is it in test mode or is it the real deal?
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I played last session as a loner enjoying the PvE content. I loved the PvP aspect of the game because it added an extra element of danger to the game even though I never purposefully engaged in PvP gameplay. I would always run from a fight if able, fight if cornered, but usually died running. Course I rarely carried any gear on me at all, nothing that I couldn't replace easily anyways so the looting never really bugged me any. I can only think of one time I got killed carrying anything and that was when I was moving loot to my base from a FOB and got pulled into an encounter with a player. I lost lots of blueprints which bugged me. With that said, I want to play again this session but it seems to be in testing so I don't want to start then just get wiped again. I don't mind losing the stuff mind you, just all that time from last session is just wasted. I was only like level 45ish which was a huge grind for a player who probably never killed anything more significant than a bandit or a scorpion... What I am asking is with this new session, is it in test mode or is it the real deal?
I think that the current season will make you enjoy the game even more. I've been away for a long time and didn't play for a year. Just recently came back, noticed the changes and started playing again. One thing I can tell is that I love this game now! I'm enjoying the game more than ever before. I think that changes are great and changed the game for the better.
I play alone most of the time and before I had to skip through the dialogues from fear of being instakilled. I can finally travel around, explore the map and what's the most important - enjoy all the quests without constant frustration. Don't get me wrong, you can still be killed but at least it's not that frustrating. I mean there's so much content in this game that I haven't realized before. Only now I can explore all of if and I'm having a blast doing it.
Also meeting other players is more natural now as before it was about who will shoot first. I already met new people and found many new quests (and creative funny dialogs along the way).
Started some PvP as well but I'll provide more feedback as I play more. Overall it's been great fun so far. Good job devs!
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baskila, that's how I felt in the beginning of s3.
I still enjoy quests and all the fun player interactions. However, there's no late game and the character progression is not smooth and rather short. Well, at least for a single player.
Many quests and locations still feel empty or emptyish, but nothing like in s2 for sure :)
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Thanks for the input everyone, I most certainly will give it another go. I have loved online gaming since text based MUDs and being a Fallout fan, was just thrilled to see an online version of the game. I really had a blast last session, like I said even not being a PvP player, it made it a thrilling experience. My adrenaline would be very high when trying to get to a good workbench in a PvP town to craft items. I can not tell you how many times I would enter a map and turn around like a pussy and run because I saw something move out of the corner of my eye! I look forward to the new content, it looks great but what I look forward to more now is a bit more social interaction with the other players. It sounds like I will be able to do a bit more exploring than last time. Thanks again and hope to see everyone in game!
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I'm loving that I don't lose all my stuff when I die. This lets me go out and do fun things without worrying. I just worry that there may not be enough pvp death penalty to incentivize giving up when you know you have lost. I'm not to that part of pvp yet though.
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I'm loving that I don't lose all my stuff when I die. This lets me go out and do fun things without worrying. I just worry that there may not be enough pvp death penalty to incentivize giving up when you know you have lost. I'm not to that part of pvp yet though.
Some people still rage-quit after dying for the second/third time on Town Control.
You remove loot drop and people start crying about losing deteo on their Combat Armor Mark II +1 end, -1 crit chance, +5 noobiness, +10 retardness
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Without wanting to make sciene out of it.....
But isn't it just simply the effing same, in a diffrent dress ?
Look.. whats it matter, whever you need to farm renegades 10h in a row to get a single dope statted ca mk2, and not losing until 10h or whatever in constant TC use.
Or loot being enabled, finding 100 trashy ones you can pile up never use or even pick up, or even a good ones in less time and losing it again in just as much time.
It's just a flippin diffrent approach, that they preferred for reasons.
To me it seems like switching from nike to adidas.
I ever since had this view and never since wanted to bother with such a dum topic but thats how I see it.
Maybe its the fact, that the human brain detests nothing more than change and that's something I can actually relate with, being someone who been in a certain place, but it's probably also one of the factors that keep it going the most... and keeping it going = staying keen and sharp. Letting it freeze/rot = dimming the lights. Without wanting to come up with some scientificaly stuff but thats how it is.
Scientists actually found out (lmfao - and its not an effin pun) that repetive gameplay as can be found in WoW or similar games, wich is referred to as grinding reduces the brain mass and gameplay with new impressions and stimuli actually enhances affected brain areals.
Atleast a pro is (according to them) commonly found in gamers, that areas in the brain like the rewarding system are better developed than those who are not gamers and am pretty damn sure mine is developed *AF* lol.
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Well in some vids of s1 or s2, I seen tremendous piles of loot flying around in someones private base, on the ground, like.. totally cluttered with shit the dude would never use in his entire life time.. like whats the point even anyway..
I think it was Kompensators lmfao baserape vid on the forum or sumin kek.