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Title: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: EveOfEden on March 14, 2017, 12:35:49 am
My brother got banned  :'( :'( so this is dedicated to his memory lol  the banhammer strikes again!!
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: abysse on March 14, 2017, 02:06:44 am
Eh ! that's a nice drawning ! how much time it takes to make this ? ;p
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: EveOfEden on March 14, 2017, 02:18:03 am
Eh ! that's a nice drawning ! how much time it takes to make this ? ;p

lol thx, about 15 minutes. i asked Gimp what my new fan art subject material should be and he mentioned this haha. normally my stuff is a little more detailed.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on March 14, 2017, 02:24:21 am
F  :'(  :'(

RIP Gimper

Great art btw
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: EveOfEden on March 14, 2017, 03:26:03 am
F  :'(  :'(

RIP Gimper

Great art btw

I know, it was sad to make this lol. and  thank you
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Bison on March 14, 2017, 03:42:12 am
Gimper will live on!
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Gargantua on March 14, 2017, 03:45:15 am
Did he really "steal" Seki's char?  I thought it was legitimately available?

Shame.

Gimper took Cannon down with him!  Even worse!
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: superlublub on March 14, 2017, 08:40:20 am
Gimper was a nice man.
Hope him luck.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Koniko on March 14, 2017, 01:55:25 pm
Did he really "steal" Seki's char?  I thought it was legitimately available?

Shame



Gimper took Cannon down with him!  Even worse!

Character was shared with password.  Shame it got returned in such a barbarian way that's not supported by any of the game rules. I bet some newbies with their chars stolen receive them back.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: EveOfEden on March 14, 2017, 03:29:27 pm
Gimper will live on!

Indeed, he will!!
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: EveOfEden on March 14, 2017, 03:30:36 pm
Gimper was a nice man.
Hope him luck.

Yes, he helped me start back up again when I returned to the game.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: EveOfEden on March 14, 2017, 03:32:34 pm
I have noooo idea what you all are talking about! what do you mean did he steal a character??
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Gargantua on March 14, 2017, 07:25:58 pm
Follow the money Eden!  Get the truth!
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Dr. Mengelito on March 14, 2017, 09:05:32 pm
Gimper donated hundreds of dollars to this gameserver and we haven't seen any proof of his crime, worse yet Cannon of all people has been blamed aswell. Was the real "crime" here not to allow Seki back in AA? Was Cannon simply banned for being Khan? Just asking questions here...

Reloaded seems to have a history of abuse vs. community leaders, from Napalm being assaulted and called "Facepalm" by the administration here, Gargantua serving numerous bans over the smallest things, Sven was banned as Khan Raider Leader for posting "Nice." once. Mantis getting punished over nothing and was openly shit talked on discord by admins here even though his tutorials for Reloadeds been watched by thousands of players. Myself on occation from forums over the smallest things no matter donations or starting the whole rewards for mapping competition, making close to 50 newspapers one released every week, after being personally asked for it and firing off the whole Wasteland News section with TDKs thats been enjoyed and still is by so many people here since. Now it's Gimpers turn it seems? Is the real problem here that Kilgore can't hex?

I don't know anymore but as a project manager I'd suggest working together with the community instead of against it.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: EveOfEden on March 15, 2017, 02:27:45 am
Gimper donated hundreds of dollars to this gameserver and we haven't seen any proof of his crime, worse yet Cannon of all people has been blamed aswell. Was the real "crime" here not to allow Seki back in AA? Was Cannon simply banned for being Khan? Just asking questions here...

Reloaded seems to have a history of abuse vs. community leaders, from Napalm being assaulted and called "Facepalm" by the administration here, Gargantua serving numerous bans over the smallest things, Sven was banned as Khan Raider Leader for posting "Nice." once. Mantis getting punished over nothing and was openly shit talked on discord by admins here even though his tutorials for Reloadeds been watched by thousands of players. Myself on occation from forums over the smallest things no matter donations or starting the whole rewards for mapping competition, making close to 50 newspapers one released every week, after being personally asked for it and firing off the whole Wasteland News section with TDKs thats been enjoyed and still is by so many people here since. Now it's Gimpers turn it seems? Is the real problem here that Kilgore can't hex?

I don't know anymore but as a project manager I'd suggest working together with the community instead of against it.

I found myself both chuckling, and scratching my head at how much sense you made. Although I don't know the details, and at this point it is probably better that way, I can't help but feeling somewhere along the way, somebody jumped the gun. As you pointed out, Gimper has not only donated on multiple occasions, but he has also been loyal to the game since the 2238 server. He has been friends of not only players, but mods and devs alike. He has invested more than just his time on this game, and I feel like there was a lot of guess work in this "investigation". Now like I said, I don't know all the details, only what the usual flow of gossip has brought my way. So I have heard everything from "Gimper stole a character", to "Gimper was framed". At this point, obviously, the truth doesn't matter because...he's banned. However, I am forced to agree with you, in that I feel like we kinda deserve more options when situations like this arise. One day, I'm doing TC with my bro and his faction, the next day he's banned? I wouldn't want to be in his shoes, as far as being involved in an investigation, because from what it looks like loyal players don't get treated as such, and much less often get the benefit of the doubt. I mean if someone who helps keep the server running could get brushed under the rug, then who is to say that when people like me(recently returned to the game) have issues, that they'll even be addressed? Maybe its none of my business, but I think we all can agree that it SHOULD be a little more all of our business.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Gargantua on March 15, 2017, 05:09:10 am
Guys,  we've all got it wrong.

Kilgore was tricked

Seki has an extensive career on Reloaded as one of it's foremost players.  He is an expert that knows all the angles, one that doesn't make stupid mistakes.  He also has a long history of lying, betrayal, base rapes, etc, a quick look at his history with Fonline 2 shows the true story,  stealing characters included.

Look at the timeline of events, and you tell me.  Did Gimper really steal Seki's password/Chars


March 3rd 2017 - Seki Betrays AA in the wee hours of the night and lets Khans in to rape AA bases
March 4th 2017 - Seki Posts video of the Events
March 5th 2017 - Gimper posts his dissappointment that when he spoke to seki, seki did not want to remain friends
March 6th 2017 - Khans boot Seki and he is humiliated, leaving him nowhere to go.
March 7-8th  2017 - Rumors swirl Seki is on suicide watch, and that he is quitting reloaded
March 9th 2017 - Khans are approached to "purchase" Seki character.
March 10th 2017 - Khans purchase character book
March 12 2017 - Gimper and TKs-Cannon are Permabanned


You mean to tell me that after betraying AA, making an embarrassing video about it, and telling Gimper that he didn't want to stay "friends", and enjoying 4 days as a Khan, that Seki NEVER changed the password to his Characters!?!?!?!?!?! Passwords he knew Gimper had?  Is this your first Fonline?


This is Seki's revenge,  he probably gave the character to gimper, and changed his mind, then claimed it was stolen.  So Gimper would be banned.

And why Cannon was banned is beyond me.  He had nothing to do with any "theft".  The peacekeepers or Ufav or anyone could have purchased this book as it is a hot commodity.  And they would get banned for it?  If someone had just asked it would have been returned.

I made a promise to speak highly of Kilgore and treat him with respect, so as to be unbanned from these forums.  So I will keep that promise.  I am very disappointed that Kilgore was lied to.  and it is my firm belief he was been DUPED by Seki.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: ⛧Donnie Darko⛧ on March 15, 2017, 05:43:43 am
Does this mean if I give my char to say STALKER of all people and then decide a week later that he "STOLE" it, and report it, that I can see him banned!?

Hey any AA/UFAV want a free character?
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Fantastic on March 15, 2017, 05:56:46 am
Seems like two innocent dudes got fucked.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Yakuza Senpai on March 15, 2017, 06:27:48 am
Gimper here. I'll repeat what I said on discord earlier. I never "stole" or "sold" Seki's character. The truth of the matter is, he gave me his character fair and square. He GAVE it to me. So what do I do? I roll it into a book and give it away to a khan. (Not Cannon, IDK where Kilgore got this idea??) Again, I didn't sell a stolen book. I GAVE AWAY FOR FREE a book which was GIVIN TO ME FOR FREE. No money was involved and no Stealing was involved.

Seki has already confirmed this by telling Kilgore that he shared the password with me. So please tell me, which rules have I broken? The worst thing that i've done here is make Kilgore waste an hour or two of his time for some stupid investigation. Seki gave me his character because he trusted me, then had a change of heart and wanted his character back.

Easy peasy. Now unban me please. Also, please unban my forum account since I never did anything to break any forum rules...  :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: yungchance on March 15, 2017, 07:14:39 am
I thought your art was very nice. As for all the conspiracies around here idk. I don't think anyone should listen to what Seki has to say much less kilgore. None of this makes sense. I have never been a big fan of Gimper but I doubt he would do anything this sketchy.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Dr. Mengelito on March 15, 2017, 07:38:41 am
Gimper donated hundreds of dollars to this gameserver and we haven't seen any proof of his crime, worse yet Cannon of all people has been blamed aswell. Was the real "crime" here not to allow Seki back in AA? Was Cannon simply banned for being Khan? Just asking questions here...

Reloaded seems to have a history of abuse vs. community leaders, from Napalm being assaulted and called "Facepalm" by the administration here, Gargantua serving numerous bans over the smallest things, Sven was banned as Khan Raider Leader for posting "Nice." once. Mantis getting punished over nothing and was openly shit talked on discord by admins here even though his tutorials for Reloadeds been watched by thousands of players. Myself on occation from forums over the smallest things no matter donations or starting the whole rewards for mapping competition, making close to 50 newspapers one released every week, after being personally asked for it and firing off the whole Wasteland News section with TDKs thats been enjoyed and still is by so many people here since. Now it's Gimpers turn it seems? Is the real problem here that Kilgore can't hex?

I don't know anymore but as a project manager I'd suggest working together with the community instead of against it.

I found myself both chuckling, and scratching my head at how much sense you made. Although I don't know the details, and at this point it is probably better that way, I can't help but feeling somewhere along the way, somebody jumped the gun. As you pointed out, Gimper has not only donated on multiple occasions, but he has also been loyal to the game since the 2238 server. He has been friends of not only players, but mods and devs alike. He has invested more than just his time on this game, and I feel like there was a lot of guess work in this "investigation". Now like I said, I don't know all the details, only what the usual flow of gossip has brought my way. So I have heard everything from "Gimper stole a character", to "Gimper was framed". At this point, obviously, the truth doesn't matter because...he's banned. However, I am forced to agree with you, in that I feel like we kinda deserve more options when situations like this arise. One day, I'm doing TC with my bro and his faction, the next day he's banned? I wouldn't want to be in his shoes, as far as being involved in an investigation, because from what it looks like loyal players don't get treated as such, and much less often get the benefit of the doubt. I mean if someone who helps keep the server running could get brushed under the rug, then who is to say that when people like me(recently returned to the game) have issues, that they'll even be addressed? Maybe its none of my business, but I think we all can agree that it SHOULD be a little more all of our business.

In my experience problems here arise when Kilgore's friends are involved. One could think what an achievement TKs made when fighting UV after lockercamping midsession and fighting SW and AA after Seki's SE farming which wasen't reported until after SW was fully implanted. That's also where the abundance of T4's from we're up against now. One could think anyone else doing this would get banned and to restore economy and balance server should've been wiped on the spot and the culprit Seki permabanned like on any other game but no, it's of course Khans who ruin the server by killing a noob once in a while.

Like you say I think the administration has been to triggerhappy in this case and this looks like a framejob on Cannon for being a Khan TC Leader and Gimper went down in flames as a casualty of war. Just how I view this I'm open to reevaluate my opinion in the light of evidence but right now I'm sitting here asking myself was baserape of BBS on Fo2 a hit by gangster developers of another server? We might never know for sure.

That's a strange conclusion? Think again I say, what's the reason all this effort goes into helping Seki again and again when other cases like this where not investigated? What ccould be the reasoning behind Kilgore (BBS) holding Seki's (Hated by BBS) back? One possible scenario could be that Seki's got leverage on Kilgore and this is a blackmail situation. I hope that's not the case.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: zekromo on March 15, 2017, 08:05:12 am
Haha if all these assumptions and comments were all true, that means Seki had the last laugh and not the Khans like we had thought.

GG haha  ;D

At least the vermin is exterminated, and I'm sure there is a thread where he was offering to sell his character; it might be in toxic caves now but I remember reading it a day after he got humiliated and kicked.

That's all I know, and I won't make any assumptions or comments from there.

[Insert generic Free my Niggas quote.]
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on March 15, 2017, 08:25:06 am
Does this mean if I give my char to say STALKER of all people and then decide a week later that he "STOLE" it, and report it, that I can see him banned!?

Hey any AA/UFAV want a free character?

No one would take your bad character  ;D
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: ⛧Donnie Darko⛧ on March 15, 2017, 08:31:49 am
Does this mean if I give my char to say STALKER of all people and then decide a week later that he "STOLE" it, and report it, that I can see him banned!?

Hey any AA/UFAV want a free character?

No one would take your bad character  ;D

I don't think I own any bad characters  8)
But either way, I dont take what weebs say seriously.
Title: Re: "The Departure of Gimper"
Post by: Kilgore on March 15, 2017, 08:40:16 am
The amount of bullshit here strikes me a lot but well, it's Khans posting their alternative reality in which they live in, as always.

First thing to remember: no matter how much you donate, you are not allowed to break game and forum rules, and you will be banned if you do.
It is quite funny because Khans many times whined and complained about me "helping" those who donate, and that I'm bribed, and some other bullshit.

Gargantua and Mengelito - banned at least several times, short bans, long bans, yet when they are unbanned they start shitposting all over the forum again. Sorry guys, this time I'll make sure you don't get unbanned, because I've made that mistake at least few times.

To those who have any doubts about Gimper deleting Seki's char in order to profit from it (and telling him that it was "stolen" because someone "guessed" password, then he even helped Seki to move his stuff from "compromised" base)

Quote
9:12 PM] Gimper: Kilgore
[9:12 PM] Gimper: We have a problem
[9:15 PM] Gimper: So, Seki made some bad mistake and he quit my faction. He moved to Khans, and baseraped AA members in the process, to give to khans as a peaec offereing. They took all items and then banned Seki also, so he was left in the dust alone. So he decided to quit reloaded, and he gave me Seki. character to look after. So I logged on it today and was standing in his base and I see message "Knock knock, anyone there?" And then I was kicked from the server. I tried to log in 30 seconds later and I couldn't.
[9:16 PM] Gimper: At first, I though Seki changed his mind and took the account back and changed his password but then I asked him on facebook, and he said he wasnt even online. So someone stole the account from us. About 20 minutes ago, Seki registered this character name "Seki." so this means someone rerolled it.
[9:17 PM] Gimper: We were hoping you could recover it for us and possibly IP ban the thief who stole it?
[9:17 PM] Gimper: We can give anymore info you need, just ask.

[11:06 PM] Kilgore: which chars were stolen? besides Seki.
[11:34 PM] Gimper: It was only Seki afaik
[11:35 PM] Kilgore: but he used it for the last time during last night
[11:35 PM] Kilgore: and since then, only your IP used it
[11:35 PM] Kilgore: so it looks to me that you deleted it
[11:35 PM] Kilgore: or your sister
[11:35 PM] Kilgore: or your dog
[11:35 PM] Kilgore: no idea
[11:35 PM] Kilgore: but someone from your IP
[11:35 PM] Gimper: Well we didn't
[11:36 PM] Gimper: My sister never used this character
[11:36 PM] Kilgore: also, "knock knock" message does NOT kick you from the server
[11:36 PM] Gimper: It didnt kick me, i was kicked few seconds after
[11:36 PM] Gimper: I got dc'd like when someone tries to connect

[11:36 PM] Kilgore: but nobody else logged in. it would be in logs.
[11:36 PM] Kilgore: and only your IP appears in logs
[11:37 PM] Gimper: You told he used proxy
[11:37 PM] Kilgore: I was wrong
[11:37 PM] Kilgore: I checked IP with your IP on forum and it's yours IP.
[11:37 PM] Gimper: Well idk how, but I didn't delete this char and my sister never used this char ever.
[11:38 PM] Kilgore: where was this character standing for the last time?
[11:38 PM] Gimper: I logged out last inside his base
[11:38 PM] Gimper: Tent*
[11:39 PM] Kilgore: was it empty?
[11:39 PM] Gimper: no everything was there.
[11:39 PM] Gimper: But later, He logged onto his alt, and me on Gimper, and we moved all his things to trunk of car and he moved to wm so they couldnt baserape
[11:41 PM] Gimper: Is there some way you can check Unique ID?
[11:42 PM] Gimper: It FO2, they can check UID which can only be changed by re-installing windows
[11:43 PM] Gimper: Now you make Seki think I stole his shit...
[11:43 PM] Gimper: Same thing I told him, I value friendship over some stupid pixels
[11:43 PM] Kilgore: I'm only saying what I read in logs
[11:43 PM] Gimper: I havent even playing reloaded for a week now, just returned from a long break idgaf about stupid character
[11:44 PM] Gimper: I didnt take shit and I will do anything you want for me to prove it
[11:44 PM] Kilgore: well I don't give a fuck about characters also, until someone messages me about them
[11:44 PM] Kilgore: I know you didnt take shit
[11:44 PM] Gimper: So what do you want me to do
[11:44 PM] Kilgore: but the character was deleted*(edited)
[11:44 PM] Kilgore: and your IP was the last that was using it
[11:45 PM] Gimper: On statistics, it shows Seki with all achievements still, how is it deleted?
[11:47 PM] Kilgore: did you use FOnlineGL.exe character at any time?
[11:49 PM] Gimper: Ah yes I did
[11:49 PM] Gimper: I share it with 4 people
[11:49 PM] Kilgore: also, I think there was the same thing in the past with somebody else and deleted char
[11:49 PM] Kilgore: and you
[11:49 PM] Gimper: I know it...
[11:49 PM] Gimper: I remember
[11:49 PM] Gimper: When Jish char
[11:49 PM] Kilgore: yep
[11:49 PM] Gimper: But we also found out it wasnt me
[11:49 PM] Kilgore: it also disappeared out of sudden and nobody could explain it
[11:49 PM] Gimper: And later Jish found out dera did it
[11:50 PM] Gimper: It wasnt me
[11:50 PM] Kilgore: so who deleted seki's char today? :wink:
[11:50 PM] Gimper: But yes, I use FOnlinegl.exe sometimes
[11:50 PM] Kilgore: yeah, I can see that in logs
[11:50 PM] Gimper: Can you see if it was deleted or rerolled?
[11:50 PM] Gimper: Or for sure deleted
[11:50 PM] Kilgore: nope
[11:51 PM] Gimper: Can you see if there is a high level book somewhere?
[11:51 PM] Kilgore: but for sure nobody recreated the char with high lvl
[11:51 PM] Kilgore: and I even doubt it was stolen
[11:51 PM] Kilgore: because the base/tent would be baseraped
[11:51 PM] Kilgore: or at least scouted
[11:51 PM] Gimper: So you think it was just delete?
[11:51 PM] Gimper: And you thinkg I did it?

[11:52 PM] Kilgore: I don't know who did it
[11:52 PM] Kilgore: for sure someone from your IP
[11:52 PM] Gimper: The only people from my IP playing is myself and my sister
[11:53 PM] Gimper: And she uses character EveofEden, nothing else
[11:53 PM] Gimper: And my only character is Gimper
[11:53 PM] Gimper: and some slave alts
[11:53 PM] Gimper: gimpslave1-gimpslave5
[11:54 PM] Gimper: Do you need some kind of info from me? I can send whatever
[11:54 PM] Kilgore: it looks like your sister was playing at the same time it was deleted
[11:54 PM] Kilgore: and relogging
[11:54 PM] Kilgore: so maybe ask her about it
[11:54 PM] Gimper: My sister relogging? She has only one char
[11:55 PM] Kilgore: she could relog to seki delete it and relog back to her char
[11:55 PM] Gimper: Tell me, how in hell can she know his login and password
[11:55 PM] Gimper: I never shared this with ANYONE
[11:55 PM] Kilgore: I don't know
[11:55 PM] Gimper: She didnt do it, i can guarentee 100%
[11:55 PM] Kilgore: but someone did
[11:56 PM] Gimper: obviously
[11:56 PM] Gimper: So cant you just get it to him back?
[11:56 PM] Gimper: Search item ID's for high level book
[11:57 PM] Kilgore: nope
[11:57 PM] Gimper: How not?
[11:57 PM] Kilgore: i'm not going to waste time on writing new scripts just to look for some shitty book
[11:57 PM] Gimper: There isnt command or log for items?
[11:57 PM] Kilgore: i've already wasted like 2 hours of my life for investigation
[11:57 PM] Gimper: So what can we do then
[11:57 PM] Kilgore: there are two facts:
[11:57 PM] Kilgore: 1. character was deleted
[11:57 PM] Kilgore: 2. it was last used from your IP
[11:58 PM] Gimper: Ok so what from here
[11:58 PM] Kilgore: miracles don't happen
[11:58 PM] Kilgore: nothing
[11:58 PM] Gimper: So we cant get this char back?
[1:00 AM] Kilgore: hey I wasted another hour on investigation
[1:00 AM] Kilgore: and I'm 100% that it was you who deleted this char
[1:00 AM] Kilgore: I can recreate the whole story if you have short memory Gimper, but this shit is bannable
[1:01 AM] Kilgore: so think about it and think about how to fix it
[1:03 AM] Kilgore: logs don't lie, you logged in to his character, took the vertibird to get it out of there, changed password, then deleted the character, then helped him move the stuff out of safehouse

[1:04 AM] Kilgore: don't try to deny it because I took some time to search logs for your activity and also took data from seki about timing which only confirms it
[1:04 AM] Kilgore: and only you and seki were using his char during last 24 hours

note:
here the conversation ends (it was on 8th march). as you can see above, I told Gimper to fix this up. however he ignored it and acted like nothing happened.
the next conversation is on 13th march - do not be confused by the time of messages. if you have any doubts, here's screenshot from discord:
http://imgur.com/a/BgrI5

[1:04 AM] Gimper: I dont know what I can say...
[1:04 AM] Gimper: Only Ididnt do it.
[1:04 AM] Gimper: Idk man, do what you have to do I guess...
[1:05 AM] Gimper: So Im banned forever from playing reloaded, over something I didn't even do.
[1:05 AM] Kilgore: don't be silly
[1:05 AM] Kilgore: I told you to fix this shit up
[1:05 AM] Kilgore: you ignored it
[1:05 AM] Gimper: what do you mean?
[1:05 AM] Gimper: Fix what up
[1:05 AM] Kilgore: you know well that you deleted this char and sold it for bucks to cannon
[1:06 AM] Gimper: Bull fucking shit
[1:06 AM] Kilgore: you deleted also jish's char long ago, probably also for profit
[1:06 AM] Gimper: I cant belive this shit...
[1:06 AM] Gimper: I did not
[1:06 AM] Kilgore: I hope it was worth it
[1:06 AM] Gimper: Iwould not
[1:06 AM] Gimper: Dude why are you so stubborn?
[1:06 AM] Gimper: How can you say it was me
[1:06 AM] Gimper: can you show me some kind of evidence for your claims?
[1:06 AM] Kilgore: logs, man
[1:06 AM] Gimper: Seki himself probably did it
[1:06 AM] Gimper: Show me logs?
[1:07 AM] Gimper: Let me read these logs
[1:07 AM] Kilgore: well I'm not going to show you logs, because you know well what you did
[1:07 AM] Gimper: I know well i didnt do shit
[1:07 AM] Kilgore: and I'm not going to waste my time with you here

vs this from Gimper's post above:

Quote
Gimper here. I'll repeat what I said on discord earlier. I never "stole" or "sold" Seki's character. The truth of the matter is, he gave me his character fair and square. He GAVE it to me. So what do I do? I roll it into a book and give it away to a khan. (Not Cannon, IDK where Kilgore got this idea??) Again, I didn't sell a stolen book. I GAVE AWAY FOR FREE a book which was GIVIN TO ME FOR FREE. No money was involved and no Stealing was involved.

Btw one thing about server logs:
Server logs are for me and not for players. I always ask for some explanation from players and use server logs to confirm them (or deny them). I'm not going to post any logs  because it's pointless - you could easily say that they are "made up" if you found them uncomfortable.
As I said many times (and at least several times directly to Khans): if you really believe that we as server administration don't act fair, that we help some factions or something like that - PLEASE play a different game. It will be better for everyone.


Also, I'm quite patient but this is where my patience ends. No faction in Reloaded history caused even 25% of problems caused by Khans.
- forum shitposting, starting flame all over the place, spamming it with countless junk threads,
- same on discord, suddenly when I banned few khans who always started flame there, there is hardly any problem with discord,
- registering forum alts via VPN and other crap in order to spam forum even more when they get banned, I've deleted more than 50 accounts by now and who knows how many posts, including insults and some extreme content,
- then spamming me with "please kilgore we dindonuffin we are good khans please unban and we everything will be ok",
- breaking various game rules -> see banhammer log,
- insulting me personally on every possible occasion in game and forum, then crying when they get banned ("it's because AA/UV/whateverfaction told you"),
- insulting any enemy in game, on forum, real-life stuff involved which was quite disturbing,
- not to mention trolling countless new players to make them ragequit just because they can.

This is happening since at least a year.  This somehow coincides with the time that Bison left the faction, though I had some problems with Gargantua before - see topic here (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=10035.0). After Bison left the faction, things went downhill. Maybe Gargantua and Mengelito aren't that much of faction leaders. It's funny when Mengelito writes some bullshit about me being blackmailed, as he is known for such disturbing activity himself. I helped many players with password resets, renames or character recovery - including Khans. It's kinda strange when people ask for password or character recovery, I do that for them, and few weeks or months later, the same people complain when I'm resetting password or recovering charakter for Seki. But it's a big story made up by Khans that I favor Seki or other factions. Maybe they think that a lie repeated 100 times becomes the truth.. well maybe in their alternative reality. Remember when they whined all over the place that I help AA faction? ;-)

I know that some Khans made a lot of donations to support the server, but it doesn't entitle you to do any of this.
You were warned many times but same shit happens all the time, so I guess banhammer will be at work.
If it doesn't stop, you will be only struck harder. Countermeasures will be increased until you decide to follow game and forum rules, or you will be made quit.

Consider it as a final warning.