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Title: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 25, 2015, 01:58:49 pm
Hey there folks, question!

Anyone of you know any good SMALL cells? And by small i mean stuff like f.ex HTC Wildfire S or Sony Xperia X8/X10?
Req's:
1) SMALL: 100x65 is tops to me, thickness doesn't matter that much as long as its not 20~, 3.2  display at most,
2) Decent cam, don't need two, but a 5MP is considered decent,
3) halfdecent rec. - i guess 480p@30fps is a minimum?
3) 2-core CPU, clock doesn't matter, even 600 would fit me (though i don't think 2 core 600's were ever made),
4) GPS (not sure if theres any gradation for good/bad here, i just need it for the rare cases when I get lost in the mountains),
5) any decent brand, nonames made in china = nothx,
6) SDHC/SDXC slot,
7) radio, wifi, bluetooth
8 ) semi-decent battery - need it to last for quite some time in case I'm lost,

Any suggestions?

Ps: why the fk would anyone need an accelerometer, proximity meter or a compass????

Edit: if i pick any of the CPs outta the ones you guys suggest, first person that names the one I took gets 100k as a thanks
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: killer1986chris on September 25, 2015, 04:22:53 pm
Hey there folks, question!

Anyone of you know any good SMALL cells? And by small i mean stuff like f.ex HTC Wildfire S or Sony Xperia X8/X10?
Req's:
1) SMALL: 100x65 is tops to me, thickness doesn't matter that much as long as its not 20~, 3.2  display at most,
2) Decent cam, don't need two, but a 5MP is considered decent,
3) halfdecent rec. - i guess 480p@30fps is a minimum?
3) 2-core CPU, clock doesn't matter, even 600 would fit me (though i don't think 2 core 600's were ever made),
4) GPS (not sure if theres any gradation for good/bad here, i just need it for the rare cases when I get lost in the mountains),
5) any decent brand, nonames made in china = nothx,
6) SDHC/SDXC slot,
7) radio, wifi, bluetooth
8 ) semi-decent battery - need it to last for quite some time in case I'm lost,

Any suggestions?

Ps: why the fk would anyone need an accelerometer, proximity meter or a compass????

Edit: if i pick any of the CPs outta the ones you guys suggest, first person that names the one I took gets 100k as a thanks

You get yourself lost and are questioning the need for a compass?  You amuse me too often.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 25, 2015, 05:11:41 pm
You get yourself lost and are questioning the need for a compass?  You amuse me too often.
Did you notice the requirement for GPS? Please read before posting junk. Additionally, most of the time it's f*cking easy to tell where the north is, as long as you know which hour is it  :facepalm

Lastly - go vising polish mountains in the winter. As much as they're beautiful, they're f*cking dangerous when there's snow around. Even more so when you consider that the direction indicators in there simply suck (or, in many cases, don't exist at all). I got lost 50m from the shelter after 13 hrs of walking, most of the time falling thighs deep into snow, at 11pm cause there was no indicator that I should have turned to the glade. The shelter was around the corner  :-\

Don't wanna make the same mistake again  :facepalm
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: mkhammer on September 25, 2015, 10:27:43 pm
http://www.euro.com.pl/telefony-komorkowe,_Kruger-Matz.bhtml
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 25, 2015, 10:32:26 pm
http://www.euro.com.pl/telefony-komorkowe,_Kruger-Matz.bhtml

1) SMALL: 100x65 is tops to me, thickness doesn't matter that much as long as its not 20~, 3.2  display at most,
5) any decent brand, nonames made in china = nothx,

 :(
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Help Bot on September 26, 2015, 12:41:36 am
I'd ask people at Best Buy, or at an Electronics store. If you're talking about IRL cash then get a contract from one of the Comps they do custom stuff.

Even if you do find things that meet your expectations here, wouldn't you want real professionals to point you in the right direction?
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 26, 2015, 06:13:22 am
I'd ask people at Best Buy, or at an Electronics store. If you're talking about IRL cash then get a contract from one of the Comps they do custom stuff.

Even if you do find things that meet your expectations here, wouldn't you want real professionals to point you in the right direction?
Real "professionals" are usually the ones that sell the stuff - they'll most likely avoid mentioning the downsides and/or suggest a "better"/different/more expensive phone. Not to mention that these people are rarely somebody I'd consider a professional, especially in my country :>


Edit: I don't get what you mean by " If you're talking about IRL cash" though.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Help Bot on September 27, 2015, 05:01:37 am
I'd ask people at Best Buy, or at an Electronics store. If you're talking about IRL cash then get a contract from one of the Comps they do custom stuff.

Even if you do find things that meet your expectations here, wouldn't you want real professionals to point you in the right direction?
Real "professionals" are usually the ones that sell the stuff - they'll most likely avoid mentioning the downsides and/or suggest a "better"/different/more expensive phone. Not to mention that these people are rarely somebody I'd consider a professional, especially in my country :>


Edit: I don't get what you mean by " If you're talking about IRL cash" though.
100K caps is what I assume you're referring to. Since 100,000 Pounds,USD, ETC is an insane sum for a phone.
Also talking to sellers isn't bad, talk to them about your price range, and then do research on the product they suggested from a third party. Its better using actual people who work with the product than the average Joe. Quite a few times when I hear one say oh I don't think I've heard of something with that price range, then just move on. Its still nice knowing about other stuff that's out there.

I was looking for a charger for $1 but each store kept selling them for $20-$200 I eventually found what I wanted though at the $1 price. So I can understand your distrust of salesmen.

Though if you want a decent Comp name attached then you'll have to pay the "premium" price. I believe a miniwrist mounted watch might be what you'd be interested in.

I remember a friend managed to hook up his phone to his watch, so he ended up with a cell phone watch that performed like those modern Iphones. Google Glass if you could hook up to your phone would be pretty cool as well.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 27, 2015, 06:23:05 am
you'll have to pay the "premium" price.
I don't mind paying as long as its worth it.

I believe a miniwrist mounted watch might be what you'd be interested in.
Ewwww noooo, no miniwrists or w/e. Just a standard SMALL cell.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Valchuck on September 27, 2015, 02:55:44 pm
You might find it hard to acquire phone that would fit Your size requirement along with 2 cores CPU. I can't recommend any such telephone, that would also have GPS module.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: mkhammer on September 27, 2015, 06:00:15 pm
I've got Prestigio phone - a shitty chineese company do them and I've got it for over 2 years, and still working in great condition.
Samsung&Apple ain't worth the cash, better buy Kruger & Matz phone which is being distributed by Polish company.
I've  got my phone (new) for 80$ and I would buy the same again.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 27, 2015, 06:04:37 pm
Thanks guys. So far, the best match I've gotten was LG L40 - unfortunately its a bit larger and the camera is only 3MP  :'( :'( :'(

Any other ideas? Much appreciated (with 100k as well :P ).

Edit: Anyone aware of any successors to Sony Xperia Active? - 100k waiting!
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Mad Matt on September 27, 2015, 07:00:16 pm
I'm using my HTC (different model, but still it's same company) for two years already and I'm really happy for investing cash for this one. Still working, still in good cond. Nothing wrong I can say about it, even if I would like to. My friend has HTC Wildfire S and he's not complaining about it at all too. So if you want to know which one I would choose on your place, I would take anything from HTC company.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 27, 2015, 07:13:47 pm
I'm using my HTC (different model, but still it's same company) for two years already and I'm really happy for investing cash for this one. Still working, still in good cond. Nothing wrong I can say about it, even if I would like to. My friend has HTC Wildfire S and he's not complaining about it at all too. So if you want to know which one I would choose on your place, I would take anything from HTC company.
Wildfire S was my first guess, it seems nice but it may have issues with playing 720p videos. Moreover, Xperia Active is recording in 720p in a really decent quality.....guess I've found my new toy. Now, the question is, is anyone still selling it in our retarded country.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Mad Matt on September 27, 2015, 07:32:59 pm
Your choice pal, good luck :D
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 28, 2015, 04:26:39 pm
F*cking damn piece of sh*t of a country....anyone knows where can i buy Xperia Active in this toilet piece of the globe called Poland? Allegro shows no signs of it, with the exception of some retards shipping from china (lol) and some other idiot selling it for 600zl(170$)  :facepalm.
Went through the whole city, has not been seen for several years :(

Where the heck do I find it.....or, is there any similar phone? :<
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: killer1986chris on September 28, 2015, 09:26:34 pm
You have kijiji or similar there?  I finally stopped laughing about you being so close and lost.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 29, 2015, 03:27:05 pm
You have kijiji or similar there?  I finally stopped laughing about you being so close and lost.
We have several services such as that: Allegro, Olx, Gumtree, eBay being the least popular - couldn't find it on either of these with two exceptions: one being shipped from china or Taiwan, the other's price has been doubled :/

Just my dumb luck that the only decent small phone is one of the few that are nearly impossible to get >,.>
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Mad Matt on September 29, 2015, 03:43:24 pm
You've gonna be next subject of The Daily Khan :D
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on September 29, 2015, 04:00:51 pm
You've gonna be next subject of The Daily Khan :D
What the hell is that, some MLP Fan Diary?
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Mad Matt on September 29, 2015, 06:01:59 pm
You've gonna be next subject of The Daily Khan :D
What the hell is that, some MLP Fan Diary?

Hahaha, I have enough :D
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Koniko on October 10, 2015, 03:48:13 pm
I've got some expirience with android phones so I can help you out.
My first android device was most certainly hardest - Wildfire S which had good batterylife and specifications as for its times. It's durable but nowdays performance may be poor and when it comes to web browsing or watching films u may have an issue with ARMv6 codecs and HTML5 viewing. I've got LG G2 and ZenFone 5 myself and upgrade to exact 5 inches was best I could do lately. Had S3 mini for some time and it may seem like an anwser. It has exactly 4 inches screen and dual core CPU. Belive me less than 4 inches big screen is only for real masochists. If u want smaller phone then just buy an iPhone or good old Nokia. Heard also good opinions about HTC One S from rom developers on an IRC. From what I see it's decent 4.3 inches with 8 MP camera and good XDA roms support. Devices smaller than 4 inches is some kind of joke that's not produced since times of WFS.

edit mine S3 Mini after 2 years of usage still is in perfect state with tempered glass and cover pop (http://i.imgur.com/7G6GR67.jpg) and works as 3G Modem while outside ;).
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on October 11, 2015, 07:59:46 am
I've got some expirience with android phones so I can help you out.
My first android device was most certainly hardest - Wildfire S which had good batterylife and specifications as for its times. It's durable but nowdays performance may be poor and when it comes to web browsing or watching films u may have an issue with ARMv6 codecs and HTML5 viewing. I've got LG G2 and ZenFone 5 myself and upgrade to exact 5 inches was best I could do lately. Had S3 mini for some time and it may seem like an anwser. It has exactly 4 inches screen and dual core CPU. Belive me less than 4 inches big screen is only for real masochists. If u want smaller phone then just buy an iPhone or good old Nokia. Heard also good opinions about HTC One S from rom developers on an IRC. From what I see it's decent 4.3 inches with 8 MP camera and good XDA roms support. Devices smaller than 4 inches is some kind of joke that's not produced since times of WFS.

edit mine S3 Mini after 2 years of usage still is in perfect state with tempered glass and cover pop (http://i.imgur.com/7G6GR67.jpg) and works as 3G Modem while outside ;).
Mhm...Wildfire S was one of my first options but the CPU was quite old and it was still a bit large.
As for G2, ZenFone 5, One S and even S3 mini - these are MASSIVE. I need something that's really small and doesn't annoy the f*ck out of my pocket. From your point of view, I may be a masochist, but imo a phone should serve exactly what its name suggests - it should be a phone at the beginning and the end. If it has some additional features, that's cool, but I feel the market has gone the wrong way with "more" in this case.
Besides, none of these are IP67 certified and since I do a lot of hiking, that could be an issue. The fact that Xperia Active is not only waterproof but also works pretty well with wet display is another + for the rainy days on my motorbike.


In any case, surprisingly, I've been lucky - there's been an auction on Allegro lately and I've been able to order one new Xperia Active (luckily shipped from Poland, what the fk is with this all China/Taiwan mailed crap lately). Should arrive somewhere in the middle of the week  ;D

Unfortunately no one suggested the Xperia Active so no one is getting the 100k...but since there were 4 guys that were at least a bit helpful - Matt, HelpBot, mkhammer and Koniko, poke me for your 40k cash 'thank you' :)


ps. Koniko, I can't tell - are you really Polish? If so, it's really nice to see a PL that knows and uses English so well. Almost makes me believe there's still hope for this nation.....almost ;)
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Nurglak on October 14, 2015, 07:14:38 pm
how is it possible to mix politics and cell phones and being retard racist to your own nation ??

try aliexpress and dont be so shocked that it ships from china or taiwan its made there
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on October 14, 2015, 08:55:15 pm
how is it possible to mix politics and cell phones and being retard racist to your own nation ??
I may admit to being retard racist against my own country (poland) - you'd most likely understand if you'd live here. From my own experience, 'homo homini lupus est' refers to PLs more than to anyone else - a good example of this is an advice you (as a PL) can get from another PL when leaving the country to look for a job abroad: 'stay away from polish people, especially if they wish to hire you'.

That being said, where the heck did you find any kind of politics mixing into this  :o - I honestly stay the hell away from all /pol/ crap simply cause politics are the worst kind of trash (no exceptions) and I dislike swimming in shit.

try aliexpress and dont be so shocked that it ships from china or taiwan its made there
It's not the fact that it's made in china that's most disappointing: our auctioning service (allegro) has semi-decent quality standards when it comes to sellers and buyers with one exception: faggots making people buy crap that's imported/sent to them directly from china - that's a serious faggot tactics imo. Not only VAT, other kind of shit taxes, issues with customs, delivery probs but most importantly the fact that, if anything fks up, you need to send it back to china - all this shit is dropped on you. Assuming you've gotten a legit cell and not a fake.

No thanks.

As for the phone - it got delivered today. So far so good, just gotta install AnTuTu Officer now and check for any and all details to determine whether its a fake or an original. After that, water glass test! :)

Anyways, Koniko/mkhammer/Helpbot - poke me guys.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Nurglak on October 15, 2015, 09:42:52 am
i am from poland too ... just saying...
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: jokeusa on October 15, 2015, 03:16:22 pm
i am from poland too ... just saying...
There are very few exceptions to my 'distaste' with PLs - if you're not one of the tards that haunt our country and you felt offended by what I said, I apologize.
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Nurglak on October 16, 2015, 05:15:22 am
no problem ... in my opinion retards are bothersome but whiners are worse... if you dont like something work hard and change it
Title: Re: Win 100k - all I need is a small smartphone suggestion!
Post by: Koniko on October 16, 2015, 01:56:17 pm
From what I see only phone that matches your requirements will be something like an actual HTC Wildfire S. If you'll decide to buy it try rooting it and flashing this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2227402. It's around since beginning and gives GIANT improvment over stock one. More space for important applications, performance and battery improvments also included.

Or

Ching chong fuk http://www.aliexpress.com/item/ST17i-Original-Unlocked-Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-active-ST17i-Mobile-Phone-Android-GPS-WiFi-Camera-5MP-Free/1872690928.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_1,searchweb201527_1_71_72_73_74_75,searchweb201560_3