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Development => Suggestions => Closed suggestions => Topic started by: Kirkor on December 28, 2013, 12:52:33 pm

Title: Laser SMG
Post by: Kirkor on December 28, 2013, 12:52:33 pm
Energy weapons lacks some nice smaller guns and bursting weapons. So it would be nice to add some...


Laser SMG

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/caleb93andrew/cartoons/star%20wars/star%20wars%20clone%20wars/rifle_blaster_e_5.png)

It would have very similar stats as p90c
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Daryl on December 28, 2013, 01:03:35 pm
I really like this idea

Looks good
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 28, 2013, 01:08:21 pm
I would rework magneto laser pistol or solar for this smg
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 28, 2013, 02:34:56 pm
I would rework magneto laser pistol or solar for this smg
(http://rghost.ru/51263919/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51263919.view)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: That Man on December 28, 2013, 03:24:31 pm
I fully support (almost) any ideas of adding more smaller/burst energy weapons.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 28, 2013, 04:11:11 pm
Better but still it looks like star wars
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Gimper on December 28, 2013, 05:48:47 pm
It can use Small energy cells so those thousands upon thousands of batteries laying around could have a use.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kilgore on December 28, 2013, 06:09:52 pm
Needs name, description, good falloutish graphics and statistics (not only dmg), then it can be implemented and placed in Hinkley for testing.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 28, 2013, 06:22:30 pm
I will try to work on it. But burst and single shots should have different dmg.

This have to be laser or plasma smg?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kilgore on December 28, 2013, 06:27:07 pm
Laser.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: laaki on December 28, 2013, 06:59:55 pm
name: laser mp5
description:in time of war Wattz electronics company has conducted research on a project to improve a laser gun, after a long time and many attempts have managed to create a laser mp5.this smg shoot lots of laser beams.
dmg single:15-35
dmg burst: 11-20
burst type: 15shoots
magazine capacity: 30
graphic:(http://fotoo.pl//out.php?i=682951_thm-63733a.jpg)
needed str:6
range single: 35hex
range burst: 30hex
regards :]

Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Sperber on December 28, 2013, 07:00:03 pm
(http://s14.directupload.net/images/131228/it9unex5.gif)

Laser Smg

"Similar to the Wattz 1000 Magneto-Laser Pistol the Laser Smg uses a magnetic field targeting system but instead of an integrated version it is mounted under the barrel to make room for an internal cylinder that houses 4 rotating lasers to avoid overheating.

Damage: 20-30
Single: 5AP, Range 30
Burst: 6AP, Range 25, 4 Rounds

Damage type: Laser
Ammo Small Energy Cells
Ammo capacity: 20
Strength required: 4
Type: Single-handed

Crafting: Energy Expert 2, Blueprint, 2 Metal Parts, 1 Good Metal Part, 2 HQ Alloys, 6 Electronic Parts, 1 Magnetic Field Targeting System
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 28, 2013, 07:31:34 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/jyTtRAT.png)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kirkor on December 28, 2013, 07:45:43 pm
I didn't make stats, cause they'll be probably overpowered. But here it is:


Laser SMG
Right before The Great War, Wattz Electronics Company was developing new advanced laser weapon, designed for Vehicle Crews and Light Infantry Troops. The weapon passed many tests with positive results and it was ready for mass production.


Damage    30 - 45
Single    AP: 4, Range: 30.
Burst    AP: 5, Range: 25, Rounds: 4
n/a    
Damage type:    Laser
Ammo    Small Energy Cell
Ammo capacity    12
Strength required    6
Type    One-handed
Weight    5071 grams
Base price 8000 caps




Graphiscs:
Kriss Super V looks promissing
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NM_XoHIRDgo/S0cmTk-DE8I/AAAAAAAAAXA/d-7t57e-4pI/s320/tdi_kriss_superv1_apr07.jpg)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Perteks on December 28, 2013, 08:16:29 pm
If mean stats then we need to remember only AR give laser resist.

I think AP usage can be same to P90c
Range same to pistol version for both shot and burst because 35 is like most of pvp burst pvp weapons act on that distance.

Damage 20-35  (laser pistol 20-35)
Burst rounds 20
Mag cap 60

Still it will deal lesser dmg than gatling and will have lower range.
From my calculating it will deal around 70-80 dmg to ca mk2.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Knife_cz on December 28, 2013, 08:24:00 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/jyTtRAT.png)
I like this one.
However, I would prefer to have it a long range of Magneta-Pistol, and have just a burst of 10 shots like 10mm SMG.

It's a bloody laser, let it be accurate.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: DocAN on December 28, 2013, 08:41:46 pm
Someone could try to rework this one, to more falloutish:

(http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130605210150/sanctum/images/d/d6/SMG.png)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kilgore on December 28, 2013, 08:43:33 pm
yeah, if recoloured (white->green/dark yellow) + rusty, it could be nice.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Black Rainbow on December 28, 2013, 10:32:25 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/LM9VGKp.png)

This is what I currently use for my plasma pistols, it could also be reworked.


An H&K P22 Laser SMG. Developed during the war for prototype use, designed specifically for the military. Multiple chambers are used to absorb heat and discharge excess power, preventing over-heating and premature detonation. 


Damage    30 - 45
Single    AP: 4, Range: 35.
Burst    AP: 5, Range: 30, Rounds: 4
n/a   
Damage type:    Laser
Ammo    Small Energy Cell
Ammo capacity    12
Strength required    4
Type    One-handed
Weight    5071 grams
Base price 8000 caps

Slightly modified from Kirkor's statistics.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kirkor on December 28, 2013, 10:53:17 pm
(http://imageshack.us/a/img827/7159/lpte.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img833/7469/fqig.png)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Gimper on December 29, 2013, 06:20:27 am
Now who's gonna be the hero and make the animations for burst?  ;D
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: laaki on December 29, 2013, 08:22:07 am
burst animation can be taken from p90 XD
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Strike on December 29, 2013, 09:57:50 am
(http://i.imgur.com/jyTtRAT.png)

Jacky made pretty good one actually, somehow it does looks like Laser SMG for me.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 29, 2013, 12:06:38 pm
I reworked it so it is much better now

(http://i.imgur.com/tejIRNU.png)

or

(http://i.imgur.com/qC0Qkr7.png)

Single shoot: 20-40
Ap:4 range:35

Burst: 40-55
Ap:5 range:30
Bullets: 10
Spread out
Magazine: 30
Str:4
One handed
Sec to recharge
Perk: accurate

Recipe:
Laser pistol, 2hq alloys, 2ele part, metal part

or if someone could rework this one
(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110716234952/fallout/images/thumb/5/5e/Laser_pistol_01_(Gamebryo).png/185px-Laser_pistol_01_(Gamebryo).png)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 29, 2013, 04:45:33 pm
Someone could try to rework this one, to more falloutish:

(http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130605210150/sanctum/images/d/d6/SMG.png)
(http://rghost.ru/51288215/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51288215.view)

Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kirkor on December 29, 2013, 04:52:02 pm
Wooo, I like Dilinger's pic. It's epic.
But isn't it a little too small?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 29, 2013, 04:54:58 pm
Wooo, I like Dilinger's pic. It's epic.
But isn't it a little too small?

120x62, standart invent resolution, in-game screen
(http://rghost.ru/51288592/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51288592.view)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Sperber on December 29, 2013, 05:34:30 pm
(http://rghost.ru/51263919/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51263919.view)
I like this this the most so far but you should remove the white glow.

Most of the others that have been suggested look silly.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 29, 2013, 09:00:16 pm
(http://rghost.ru/51263919/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51263919.view)
I like this this the most so far but you should remove the white glow.

Most of the others that have been suggested look silly.
(http://rghost.ru/51293614/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51293614.view)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: DocAN on December 29, 2013, 09:08:12 pm

(http://rghost.ru/51288215/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51288215.view)

Good job !
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 29, 2013, 09:14:09 pm
I don't like it. Not falloutish
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 29, 2013, 09:17:16 pm

(http://rghost.ru/51288215/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51288215.view)

Good job !

ok ;D
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Knife_cz on December 29, 2013, 09:22:28 pm
I reworked it so it is much better now

(http://i.imgur.com/tejIRNU.png)

or

(http://i.imgur.com/qC0Qkr7.png)

Single shoot: 20-40
Ap:4 range:35

Burst: 40-55
Ap:5 range:30
Bullets: 10
Spread out
Magazine: 30
Str:4
One handed
Sec to recharge
Perk: accurate

Recipe:
Laser pistol, 2hq alloys, 2ele part, metal part


I still vote for this one, except I'd change it to 35 range because once again - its a laser, its supposed to be accurate and for long ranges, right?

Unless of course this weapon is supposed to be something like Grease Gun/10mm smg instead its Energy instead of Small Guns. In that case I disagree because I don't think EW needs its own small SG which would do 'BZOOM BZOOM' instead of 'RATATATAT PEW PEW PEW'.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 30, 2013, 02:01:52 am
or maby v.4?
(http://i.imgur.com/tiYEsTu.png)

Single shoot: 20-40
Ap:4 range:35

Burst: 40-55
Ap:5 range:35
Bullets: 12
Spread out
Magazine: 36
Str:4
One handed
Sec to recharge
Perk: accurate

Recipe:
Laser pistol, 2hq alloys, 2ele part, metal part

If u still think some mass effect crap is better, I am done! ;D
I want to make plasma shotgun...
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Sperber on December 30, 2013, 02:12:39 am
Shotguns have recoil and don't spread on burst,
lasers don't have recoil and spread on burst.

I don't get the logic of you people. :P
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 30, 2013, 02:30:01 am
It is a game and here shotguns doesn't have spread out ;)
Gatlings have. This weapons should deal less dmg than Gatling even if we compare 3x smg burst to 2x Gatling burst

Btw my pic is the best
It looks like smg, you can see laser pistol is base of it, you can see 2x sec slots
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: ElSlayer on December 30, 2013, 05:00:37 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_(Star_Wars) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_(Star_Wars))  :D
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Strike on December 30, 2013, 05:50:08 am
Shotguns have recoil and don't spread on burst,
lasers don't have recoil and spread on burst.

I don't get the logic of you people. :P
Yeah, I don't get it either :D

Haha, we have so many good images for laser SMG. Which will win?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Sperber on December 30, 2013, 08:35:32 am
Btw my pic is the best

So humble ...

But I don't like the Mass Effect thing either.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Chosen One on December 30, 2013, 09:36:11 am
I was talking to Red and he said this was something that players were asking for as part of FO3 before Interplay went under, so y'all, definitely do it.
; )
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 30, 2013, 09:43:17 am
(http://rghost.ru/51300188/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51300188.view)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 30, 2013, 11:37:37 am
(http://rghost.ru/51300188/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51300188.view)

Seriously?
:D
(http://i.imgur.com/tiYEsTu.png)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Sperber on December 30, 2013, 11:53:55 am
(http://rghost.ru/51300188/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51300188.view)

Seriously?
:D
(http://i.imgur.com/tiYEsTu.png)

Both look weird.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Gimper on December 30, 2013, 07:58:39 pm
Hehehe OKOK sorry. I didn't mean to directly attack your nice art work like that. I guess I should appreciate the time put into these things.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Sperber on December 30, 2013, 08:32:04 pm
(http://s1.directupload.net/images/131230/luzv8tbn.png)

Laser Smg

"Similar to the Wattz 1000 Magneto-Laser Pistol the Laser Smg uses a magnetic field targeting system but instead of an integrated version it is mounted under the barrel to make room for an internal cylinder that houses 4 rotating lasers to avoid overheating.

Damage: 20-30
Single: 5AP, Range 35
Burst: 6AP, Range 30, 4 Cells

Perk: Accurate
Damage type: Laser
Ammo Small Energy Cells
Ammo capacity: 20
Strength required: 4
Type: Single-handed

Crafting: Energy Expert 2, Blueprint, 2 Metal Parts, 1 Good Metal Part, 2 HQ Alloys, 6 Electronic Parts, 1 Magnetic Field Targeting System
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Perteks on December 30, 2013, 08:42:28 pm
Shut your face, Post pics or some suggestion not useless (not even) opinions but one line bullshit :)

Srsly final word is to Kilgore anyway, and posts like:
i dont like it.
Or
http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/9953060.jpg
they just trash that topic.

P.S. And i think still Dillinger first edit is best of this.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kilgore on December 30, 2013, 09:01:38 pm
(http://rghost.ru/51288215/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51288215.view)
This is good, but there is too much of red colour. Compare it with other fallout guns. Make some recolour. Should be fine then. Also make something with "black" part of it, it doesn't look good.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 30, 2013, 09:06:53 pm
del
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Gimper on December 30, 2013, 09:28:59 pm
Shut your face, Post pics or some suggestion not useless (not even) opinions but one line bullshit :)
Srsly final word is to Kilgore anyway

Uh.. who ARE you?

Aaaannyways yeah I like this one better then the last one.
(http://rghost.ru/51314015/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51314015.view)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 30, 2013, 09:32:43 pm
bullshit.
mass effect crap
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kilgore on December 30, 2013, 09:41:31 pm
Another thing is: do you want it to be hi-tier, mid-tier, low-tier weapon.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 30, 2013, 09:44:51 pm
laser pistol - magneto laser pistol - it - laser rifle- gatling laser
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 30, 2013, 10:09:37 pm
High tier lvl
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Sperber on December 30, 2013, 10:10:57 pm
laser pistol - magneto laser pistol - it - laser rifle- gatling laser

Same here.

Regarding the image; why don't we make a poll and let the majority decide?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Gimper on December 30, 2013, 10:21:45 pm
I say med - tier. Not as high as plasma rifle, but still need a blueprint.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Perteks on December 30, 2013, 10:26:18 pm
High tier.
Something what can compete to gatling lasers. Less firepower, lower range but faster
More weapons variety in pvp is more interesting fight. Especially that it will be easier to balance than weapon what use normal dmg
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 30, 2013, 10:58:57 pm
I agree with Pierdeks/fartman

I prefer my smg. I dont like mass effect
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Knife_cz on December 30, 2013, 11:36:22 pm
High tier.
Something what can compete to gatling lasers. Less firepower, lower range but faster
More weapons variety in pvp is more interesting fight. Especially that it will be easier to balance than weapon what use normal dmg
Why less range than Gatling? Its a bloody Laser, its once again supposed to have long range. I'd go that far to set it on 40 Range so it would be a difference to XL70E3

Unless of course once again, you want it to be | SG XL70E3 = EW Laser SMG2 |

Also, Dillinger's gun really looks somewhat like Mass Effect gun
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 30, 2013, 11:51:40 pm
data\art\inven\iverylovemycoollasersmg.frm   for all mass effect haters ;D

p.s. i never play mass effect :P

Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on December 31, 2013, 02:35:52 pm
Can you make clear file of my laser smg?
I am very bad skilled to make it. I used paint :)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on December 31, 2013, 05:33:41 pm
Can you make clear file of my laser smg?
I am very bad skilled to make it. I used paint :)
(http://rghost.ru/51327206/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51327206.view)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Chosen One on January 01, 2014, 04:05:50 am
Another thing is: do you want it to be hi-tier, mid-tier, low-tier weapon.
Mid-tier. Profession Energy 1+bps or Profession Energy 2, but no AWB.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Gimper on January 01, 2014, 06:09:19 am
No AWB? Are you serious??? It's an automatic laser weapon brah.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Chosen One on January 01, 2014, 07:18:48 am
I ain't a brah, I wear one :P, and ya. I'm not really a big fan of requiring AWB's anyways.
THIS GUY (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJzwyIo4Sx8) made an AR-15 with a shitty ass $20 Harbor Freight router (switch out the hammer and trigger assembly, and an AR-15 becomes an M-16).
I'd save the AWB's for the real heavy gear, like Gatlins and for CA's (and maybe some chems).
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on January 01, 2014, 03:25:26 pm
Awr?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Evgoon on January 01, 2014, 06:01:51 pm
APG-38 (Automatic Phazer Gun 2238)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img24/7558/8cvo.png)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Solaire on January 01, 2014, 08:05:18 pm
Why less range than Gatling? Its a bloody Laser, its once again supposed to have long range. I'd go that far to set it on 40 Range so it would be a difference to XL70E3

 do u know how exactly laser works it lose it power by every meter cos its focused light .... in real life the lasers have range maybe 50-60 meters but that was prototypes anyway and i think that one what kilgores chosen looks good (http://rghost.ru/51314015/image.png)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Chosen One on January 01, 2014, 08:25:17 pm
The exact style isn't really important, is it?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kirkor on January 01, 2014, 08:26:11 pm
(http://rghost.ru/51314015/image.png)

Now that I think of it, this gun would look better without this weird handle under the barrel. Just my 2 cents. Maybe just add normal handle like in normal SMGs?


My puny attempts:
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6333/zuw3.png)
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6023/zvv2.png)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on January 01, 2014, 08:59:27 pm
Can you make clear file of my laser smg?
I am very bad skilled to make it. I used paint :)
(http://rghost.ru/51327206/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51327206.view)

Thnx but i asked for v4 :)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Dillinger on January 02, 2014, 12:45:59 pm
My puny attempts:
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6333/zuw3.png)
(http://rghost.ru/51353875/image.png) (http://rghost.ru/51353875.view)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Gimper on January 02, 2014, 06:10:57 pm
I ain't a brah, I wear one :P, and ya. I'm not really a big fan of requiring AWB's anyways.
THIS GUY (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJzwyIo4Sx8) made an AR-15 with a shitty ass $20 Harbor Freight router (switch out the hammer and trigger assembly, and an AR-15 becomes an M-16).
I'd save the AWB's for the real heavy gear, like Gatlins and for CA's (and maybe some chems).

Yeah but but.... Hm. I see your point. But gatlings aren't craftable anyways. Oh and by the way.... TITTIEZ!!
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on January 03, 2014, 12:56:52 am
(http://i.imgur.com/tiYEsTu.png)

can u make clear pgn of it?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: skejwen on January 03, 2014, 02:04:34 am
(http://i.imgur.com/tiYEsTu.png)

can u make clear pgn of it?

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3881929/lsg_smg1.png)

Anyway some time ago I started something alike, but Kilgore told me that its shit (and hes right ;d).

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3881929/lsg_smg2.png)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on January 03, 2014, 02:06:18 am
laser shotgun-pistol? come on...

last idea...
(http://i.imgur.com/DaNvphB.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/kjunxc0.jpg)
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Chosen One on January 03, 2014, 07:47:05 am
Yeah but but.... Hm. I see your point. But gatlings aren't craftable anyways. Oh and by the way.... TITTIEZ!!
HEY, THOSE ARE MINE!!! GIVE THEM BACK!!!
lol....
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on January 10, 2014, 11:34:03 am
any news when we can get them?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kilgore on January 10, 2014, 02:02:54 pm
I think that it will be included in the second update from now, along with Laser Support Weapon.

Initially only on Hinkley for testing, and if it's okay then it will be available from vendors and probably crafting.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kilgore on January 10, 2014, 08:41:39 pm
Sorry for doublepost but: meanwhile, you can try improving graphics for Laser SMG..
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Knife_cz on January 11, 2014, 06:47:58 pm

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6333/zuw3.png)


I'd settle on this one.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Gimper on January 11, 2014, 06:56:31 pm

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6333/zuw3.png)


I'd settle on this one.

Yeah this one is good I guess. Although it looks a little... Rusty?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Chosen One on January 12, 2014, 12:03:23 am

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6333/zuw3.png)


I'd settle on this one.
It's Fallout. Not Robotech.

Yeah this one is good I guess. Although it looks a little... Rusty?
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: jacky on January 12, 2014, 01:26:25 pm
O dont like it.
Title: Re: Laser SMG
Post by: Kilgore on April 27, 2014, 04:35:24 pm
Will be added with wipe.