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Factions => The Thunderdome => Topic started by: Furior on February 23, 2014, 04:00:59 pm

Title: More slaves shit.
Post by: Furior on February 23, 2014, 04:00:59 pm
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/940x529q90/59/tl7g.jpg)

If this is not banned from game, Ill make sure my whole gang make slave builds, so we will finally destroy pvp in this server.

If you cant make the code to make slaves useless in combat, just ban these factions from TC, or ban their slave characters until the update.

And really... I dont know what devs are waiting for to fix this slave shit.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: carnack on February 23, 2014, 04:07:25 pm
Disable slaves in pvp, what else to say ? Yes i agree in order to be on par with those dudes we will have to make slave builds too, which will only ruin pvp further. FIX FAST.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Strike on February 23, 2014, 04:14:25 pm
Kilgore already said, if he see more this kind action there will be some nerfs. Now we need just wait.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Furior on February 23, 2014, 04:18:13 pm
Wait? Its been 1-2 month since the slave exploits appeared. And I havent read anything saying they are working to fix it.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Strike on February 23, 2014, 04:20:06 pm
Wait? Its been 1-2 month since the slave exploits appeared. And I havent read anything saying they are working to fix it.
http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=4582.0 (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=4582.0)
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: mojuk on February 23, 2014, 04:37:44 pm
Strike and how does your link answer to what Furior said? Even in topic you linked you quoted discussion from December:
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PvE madness will be dealt with after the next update and who will still abuse it, will get airstrike and banhammer in his face.

http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=3319.msg23460#msg23460 (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=3319.msg23460#msg23460)

I wonder how many factions still abuse this on TC? You could just report, and good people without PvE TC will get towns.
So first big topics started at least 2 months ago...
Complete removal of any combat slaves from PvP and companions nerf is really needed as it was already said many times by many people in many topics.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Strike on February 23, 2014, 04:43:27 pm
Strike and how does your link answer to what Furior said?
Well I have no time to include it in tonight's update (except disabling militia which is easy fix), but if gangs still keep using whole groups of NPCs in PvP then surely there will be nerfs.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: mojuk on February 23, 2014, 04:48:09 pm
I doesn't change the fact that this part
And I havent read anything saying they are working to fix it.
is still true. There is no word anywhere about something being actually done to deal with this problem. All this is just "if people don't stop using it without us doing something we will think about doing something".
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: carnack on February 23, 2014, 04:49:05 pm
- either reduce companion dmg (atleast 25%) or make them not able to use knockdown weapons, maybe increase their hp as tradeoff
- and make mercs and slaves not usable in new reno arms and warehouse and town control
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on February 23, 2014, 07:04:00 pm
- and make mercs and slaves not usable in new reno arms and warehouse and town control
for the last time, NO ONE USES MERCS!!!


(http://i.imgur.com/KD01mrc.jpg)
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Margaux on February 23, 2014, 07:41:57 pm
My team often benefited by using NPCs. But I hate all slaves, companies and mercenaries. Must remove all!

Motion sensor and special items in reno and warehouse should be removed as well. I mean special items: pulse rifle, bozar, gauss, pas, etc. Combat Armors and normal weapons with bonus is good.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Chosen One on February 24, 2014, 02:24:38 am
You know what I don't get? Why IS there a limit to the number of slaves you can have? If I want 1,000,000 slaves, and I have the MOENY for a million slaves, why can't I HAVE a million slaves? Ok, a limit to the number I can actually CONTROL at a time (say 2), and the rest I have to leave her or there (like in f1/f2, where you have to pick and choose which followers you have at any given time). Same for cows... You can "have" (own) as many as you want, but you can only USE as many as your party points allows.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Sperber on February 24, 2014, 02:34:00 am
Slaves, mercs and companions would be fine if you couldn't get infinite skill points.
Again, the problem lies in the changes that weren't really thought trough.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: mojuk on February 24, 2014, 07:38:09 am
No they were not. There were similar problems with NPC in PvP back on 2238. Real problem is that slaves were not nerfed to the ground to begin with and role and impact of companions in PvP significantly decreased based on what we had on previous server.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Chosen One on February 24, 2014, 09:18:11 am
Slaves, mercs and companions were fine when you couldn't get infinite skill points.
Again, the problem lies in the changes that weren't really thought trough.
So nerf them that they won't fight, or at least not in rt mode.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Sperber on February 24, 2014, 10:48:32 am
No they were not. There were similar problems with NPC in PvP back on 2238. Real is that slaves were not nerfed to the ground to begin with and role and impact of companions in PvP significantly decreased based on what we had on previous server.

Sorry, I worded that wrong. Corrected.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: carnack on February 24, 2014, 12:50:23 pm
(http://screenshot.cz/KB90S/screen_2014.02.24_13-48-54.jpg)

 just another example today
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Adams on February 26, 2014, 07:18:00 pm
If slaves are OP why you dont use them?
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Furior on February 26, 2014, 07:23:03 pm
Because we are not a bunch of noobs.
Because we want to pvp, not to pve.

Choose the answer you like the most.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Adams on February 26, 2014, 07:42:27 pm
Because we are not a bunch of noobs.
Because we want to pvp, not to pve.

Choose the answer you like the most.
Youre a noob if you dont want to use something what gives you an obvious advantage.
Just find a group which wants pvp only and fight against them where is the problem?
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Furior on February 27, 2014, 11:37:48 am
Youre a noob if you dont want to use something what gives you an obvious advantage.

If this is not banned from game, Ill make sure my whole gang make slave builds, so we will finally destroy pvp in this server.
Learn to read.

If "we" keep using slaves, pvp will be fucked. I dont want that to happen.. and you shouldnt.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: carnack on February 27, 2014, 12:46:58 pm
Because we are not a bunch of noobs.
Because we want to pvp, not to pve.

Choose the answer you like the most.
Youre a noob if you dont want to use something what gives you an obvious advantage.
Just find a group which wants pvp only and fight against them where is the problem?

adams i am sorry if you dont see the unballanced shit that companions are, why dont you just imagine town control or reno 5 vs 5 with 25 slaves / mercs on each side, do you think this game would be fun because right now its heading in that direction

Right now there is no stronger build than a build with mercs and i mean it. Its practically impossible to frontline attack one guy with 2/3 mercs and survive when you are alone, you will die before even shooting, even in power armor. But maybe if they do more stupid nerfs like pancor (useless in tc right now) nerf then we will see some stuff happening.
Title: Re: More slaves shit.
Post by: Adams on February 27, 2014, 12:51:15 pm
Dont worry man im perfectly aware of it.Its been said many times yet nothing has changed so im just making fun of it.