FOnline: Reloaded
General => Game Help => Topic started by: Achas on January 10, 2015, 06:41:14 pm
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Will probably use a .223 pistol and a backup p90 or one of the burst assault rifles.
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=12402
and will use Nuka C, cigs, Jet, Buffout
Hopefully I'm learning :D
I appreciate any and all feedback.
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If you stick to the 223 pistol you can take and additionnal lifegiver instead of RBTE and aim for groin. You have autocrit from behind and groin often knock down or out.
Or you can also take 2 bonus ranged damage and more ranged damage instead of RBTE, lifegiver and silent death. Take jet and you'll have 12 AP, allowing you to tripple burst with P90 with insane damage. If you do so try aiming arms when you use the pistol, for a surprising weapon drop.
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Thanks for the reply :)
I think he's leaning more toward the burst like you suggested.
Wouldn't the 223 groin shots be less effective since there's no - crit modifier? Like if he were caught out of stealth and the enemy was facing him, he'd be in a tough situation. Not that that wouldn't be the case anyway lol, but even more so.
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With 180 sneak you'll be spotted easily. This is why sneaker builds need 9-10 INT for 300 sneak.
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So should I take points out of endurance, or something else like perception? Already doesn't have much hp. But I've heard perception is important to sneakers so maybe this guy will have to be really flimsy.
Everything else looks good? I went with Le troll's burst suggestion just like he posted. RBTE lifegiver and silent death switched out for the 3 increased ranged damage perks.
I was messing around in the character builder and it took me to level 33 to max sneak while still getting all those perks. (At 9 IN)
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Don't ask me how to make a sneaker, especially if you want all that stuff, aimed shots.
If I were to make a sneaker, I would make a 1 LK, 1ST , BRD sneaker burster.
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It seems like this all depends on how much time someone wants to spend leveling :P
Either push for the intelligence and hit 300 sneak around level 31-33 or get to level 50 with around 5 intelligence (on the last one I tested).
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http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/wiki/index.php?title=Motion_Sensor
So attacking anyone that has this on is pointless unless you plan to use long range weapon and use range to avoid being noticed.
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Silent death doesn't work for bursters BTW.
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lvling is super easy. just make power servos. seki has a whole thread on how to do it if you search forum. i made a silent death guass pistol build and love it. Just stay at 50 hex range and nail them. kills fast and almost always a ko/kd. you shouldnt need more than 4 int and perception is the most important stat for sneakers as well as agility and luck. endurance isnt so important because odds are you will be killed really fast once you get caught anyways.
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I'll be able to get a private mine soon so I think I'll try it the Seki way.
My friend was pretty set on a burster, p90 and then 223 as backup.
Is there any way at all to counter the motion sensor?
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Well... you could try to wait until the motion sensor is outta battery's xD but no, there is no way to counter it
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I'll be able to get a private mine soon so I think I'll try it the Seki way.
My friend was pretty set on a burster, p90 and then 223 as backup.
Is there any way at all to counter the motion sensor?
No, if you're 15 hexes within of a person with a motion sensor, they'll see you. Nothing can stop that :-\
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Dang. I think there should be some sort of counter to it, at least to an extent. Maybe some sort of jamming device that has a long cooldown.
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well.. just be focussed and attack when other person just used his ap and has his focus elsewhere. sneakers are pretty advantaged. person with most kills ingame is also a sneaker. when 10pe+harpshooter are looking in your direction its also something around 10 hexes from where you will be seen. no motion sensor would be really really awful..
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This is why sneaker builds need 9-10 INT for 300 sneak.
If I were to make a sneaker, I would make a 1 LK, 1ST , BRD sneaker burster.
bullshit, you are lazy, you can get lvl 140 by crafting in 3 hrs so its not any problem to make low in sneaker with crits, it just requires proper knowing mechanics of bartering, slaving, mining, crafting and set up autoclicker
its always better to invest few more hours into makin your char then just lose most of pvp because of really bad build, you can get skill points later by leveling but special points not
@back to topic
i have no idea what kind of build are you talkin about because that link on nitue requires password but if you would ask me for sneaker build it would be this for sure [burster, max dmg, max FoV for scouting]
(0 implants version) - almost maxed stats (11pe, 10en, 10ag, 10lk + max dmg (25cc + 3x brd + fastshot))
(http://s12.postimg.org/yayo083o9/build_2014_08_12_02_21_40.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/yayo083o9/)
(all implants version - maxed all stats (12pe, 10en, 10ag, 10lk) on psycho + max dmg (25cc + 3x brd + fastshot))
(http://s3.postimg.org/agfyah4bj/sneaker.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/agfyah4bj/)
if you also have some other sneaker with 11-12pe for scouting open fields like TC (or you are not interested in doin TC) then you can swap sharpshooter to even tougher, it can help you alot when fighting with other sneakers as they all use normal dmg type weapons
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well.. you forgot the 100 science for powerleveling :D
i have nearly same sneaker as seki posted and it just has endurance and optics implants but you can solo warehouse with this. you need pretty good normal dr/dt bonus on your armor for the mini gunner thug, but rest is easy and crit burster is the fastest way to clear warehouse alone :)
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I don't know if you can go over 300 sneak here but this is what you want :
http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/wiki/index.php?title=Stealth_Boy
Hard to find , expensive and uncraftable (if still exists).
Look at sneak formula (i didn't :P) but as I remeber if there are 5 high pe chars watching you you loose sneak anyway (10 guys with 1 pe = 10 pe , 5 guys with 8 pe = 40 pe), if you shoot you will loose sneak anyway , if you loot you will loose snaek etc. so it's hit and run.
In group fight crit burster + 300 sneak is enough , move from side (less chance to be detected) and rush for 3 deadly bursts when enemy is busy and in retreat then run and heal.
You need lots of levels , int helps but you also need something to fight and level up in meantime.
Sneaker can win 1vs1 but not 1vs5 but he can escape :)
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The build Seki showed is the best you can do for p90 burster, I tested something similar and you deal insane damage with any weapon. Problem is lvling, if you are not autoclicker friendly you better take 8 INT, read 10 science book at lvl 1, raise science to 100 at lvl 2 and get the support perk that gives you +2 SP each level (same as having 9 INT). Your character well be ready at lvl 50 instead of 3687146 but also less powerfull, you choose.
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I have a build very close to what Seki posted (not exact, but close enough) and it works well. Make this the third person recommending it.
No need for Stealth Boys, you can't have more than 300 sneak, and skill points are more plentiful than Stealth Boys.
Motion sensors are an absolute must, especially for any type of PvP, or anything in an area you might get into PvP whether you want to or not.