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Development => Suggestions => Closed suggestions => Topic started by: carnack on April 01, 2015, 01:46:55 pm

Title: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: carnack on April 01, 2015, 01:46:55 pm
Remove those implants or change them to something not related with special since they mess up builds.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Coltheim on April 01, 2015, 01:53:51 pm
They mess up builds...?
Please explain.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: carnack on April 01, 2015, 01:54:53 pm
You will have to reroll character or make another for implants.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Mad Matt on April 01, 2015, 02:01:20 pm
Wipe doesn't mean we will have to get everything from begining? Even chars?
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Gnk on April 01, 2015, 02:50:47 pm
Implants will not be as common after wipe. This has already been addressed.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: carnack on April 01, 2015, 02:55:25 pm
How does that solve this problem ? :D  You make 10 PE sniper and you cant use implant, while 9 PE character can use it, will have the same stats as you and if he has all implants he will have one more special.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Gnk on April 01, 2015, 03:04:46 pm
How does that solve this problem ? :D  You make 10 PE sniper and you cant use implant, while 9 PE character can use it, will have the same stats as you and if he has all implants he will have one more special.
Because if implants are rare enough then nobody will get full implants
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: carnack on April 01, 2015, 03:05:39 pm
No, they will just be more expensive.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Kaaon on April 01, 2015, 03:07:26 pm
How does that solve this problem ? :D  You make 10 PE sniper and you cant use implant, while 9 PE character can use it, will have the same stats as you and if he has all implants he will have one more special.
you can use it by radiation

but i still agree with suggestion, with implants you can much more different builds like 12pe 10en 10ag 10lk on psycho and other drugs or plasma tank with adrenaline rush etc..
as i already mentioned in other topic..,
PE,EN,ST,AG,LK can completely change your build, allow you to use different drugs or take different perks (@edit, i know that u can install them after lvl 30 but you can make build with different special to meet some requirement and then fix it with implants) when used on new character which is planned for them
they are more then just +1 SPECIAL point, for example PE implant can allow you to have more FoV so you can use some drugs which increases your DR and decreases your PE, that way its not +1 PE but it can be converted into something useful like DR.. or plasma tank can take adrenaline rush with implant build instead of more criticals.. etc..
i dont even like idea of keeping SPECIAL implants because it forces players to do rerolls or start new character planned for them, some builds are completely different with and without implants like for example sniper which i mentioned on this forum like week ago .. i would rather like to see some new implants which doesnt require reroll or new character and nerfed versions of dermal, phoenix and nemean
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Coltheim on April 01, 2015, 03:16:18 pm
You want to completely remove a mechanic that vastly expands build diversity and possibility just because rerolling a character is inconvenient? Because you don't have the foresight to create a character with implants in mind?

"I don't want to bother with implants, so nobody else should be able to either."

Jackass.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Kaaon on April 01, 2015, 03:20:19 pm
its not about that, i have perfect implanted builds and i still dont like the way it is, same with Carnack, hes not any noob
point is that implants shouldnt force you to reroll to new build just to get advantage from them, there can be added implants like +crit chance, +fov etc.. instead of SPECIAL
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Troll on April 01, 2015, 03:58:27 pm
its not about that, i have perfect implanted builds and i still dont like the way it is, same with Carnack, hes not any noob
point is that implants shouldnt force you to reroll to new build just to get advantage from them, there can be added implants like +crit chance, +fov etc.. instead of SPECIAL

I like the idee of expanded implants and effect, but I also like special implants, the game breaking ones where resistance implants, not special. By the way reroll will be a game feature so it's not a proplem at all.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Gnk on April 01, 2015, 04:35:27 pm
its not about that, i have perfect implanted builds and i still dont like the way it is, same with Carnack, hes not any noob
point is that implants shouldnt force you to reroll to new build just to get advantage from them, there can be added implants like +crit chance, +fov etc.. instead of SPECIAL
Of course seki wants implants that buff snipers only right after implants that help tanks get nerfed. If there is +critchance implant I expect there to be -critchance and -critpower implants because ko is already OP
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Corosive on April 01, 2015, 05:32:34 pm
Wipe will bring a new FOnline game. We'll all start from scratch.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Kaaon on April 01, 2015, 05:53:01 pm
Of course seki wants implants that buff snipers only right after implants that help tanks get nerfed. If there is +critchance implant I expect there to be -critchance and -critpower implants because ko is already OP
no, its not like that, it was just example like "instead of LK or PE" .. it can be any kind of implant
i just want to see some new implants instead of SPECIAL which requies new char
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Kirkor on April 03, 2015, 02:38:33 pm
1. The reroll will be much more convinient after the wipe. You will be able to reroll for caps at some NPC or something
2. Or you can create a char with lower stats, so it has stats ready for using implants

The real problem was the Nemean and resistance implants, which were OP.
SPECIAL implants are cool imo.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: favorite on April 03, 2015, 04:30:58 pm
its not about that, i have perfect implanted builds and i still dont like the way it is, same with Carnack, hes not any noob
point is that implants shouldnt force you to reroll to new build just to get advantage from them, there can be added implants like +crit chance, +fov etc.. instead of SPECIAL
nice joke
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Chosen One on April 04, 2015, 11:35:54 am
You will have to reroll character or make another for implants.
So... Make another for implats, and plan it correctly from the get go. How does taking implants out of the game entirely solve THAT?
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Elmehdi on April 06, 2015, 11:16:21 am
1. The reroll will be much more convinient after the wipe. You will be able to reroll for caps at some NPC or something

It partially solves the problem but it will still be quite frustrating to find an INT implant being on level more than 100. I think the most reasonable solution would be to leave SPECIAL implants buyable after wipe but increase the price to f.e. 1m per each. This way you can consider them when building a character and will give a good money sink for high level characters.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Chosen One on April 06, 2015, 11:44:28 am
Why is it all of a sudden people are stealing my ideas, and passingbthem off as new?

I said "Everything... For a price" months ago, even said implants starting at 1.5m¤, and everyone bkasted it, now everyone wants to LOWER the price?! WTF! Wish i werent at work right niw I'd be TROLLING the shit outta 0 on this...
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Corosive on April 06, 2015, 07:13:56 pm
I think we've made our decision already on this.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Mad Matt on April 06, 2015, 07:49:58 pm
So what's your final decision in the end?
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Corosive on April 06, 2015, 09:44:53 pm
So what's your final decision in the end?

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Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Chosen One on April 08, 2015, 03:50:09 am
And while Im at it, you want an implant, bring Dr. Fung or whoever 10 gold, 10 electronics parts, a good metsl parts and an advanced alloy.... to make the damned thing.
1 million caps my right tit.....
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: eight8 on April 26, 2015, 09:33:37 am
i think all implants is ok. becouse with f implanted character u can play more then 5sek when some one attak u.without implants people make more time 4 preper then make fun when thay fighting. dmg is to high without implants.
Title: Re: remove S P E C I A L implants after wipe
Post by: Kaaon on May 05, 2015, 09:31:48 am
with cheap rerolls this isnt issue anymore