FOnline: Reloaded
General => Game Help => Topic started by: elyse on January 21, 2015, 06:23:52 am
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After taking a long break from FOnline have forgotten how to go about creating one of my favorite builds. I'm not 100% on the name but I called it the "Turbo Plasma" or "Plasma Chucker" character.
Would appreciate the help guys! I'm looking for anything from a complete guide or even a hello!
Thanks in advance!
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No way in hell we'll help you make a turbo plasma build man!
Joke aside for turbo plasma build best is to take this:
S10
P1
E1
C10
I10
A1
L1
Bloody mess and jinxed
Perks:
Bonus move
Heave Ho
Pyromaniac
Gain charisma
Medic
Bonus Hth attack
Gambler
Heave Ho+
Tag unarmed, gambling and reserved for maximum efficiency.
Dont forget to bring good gear.
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C10
0/10
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well that was funny hello :D
by reversing the give infos you should get to a good build very quick (use forum search.. there are plenty information about it and you should read them all pretty well)
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Dont forget to bring good gear.
Clearly, I owe Ed Wood an appology....
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Hehehehe ...
I asked people for good PLASMA build and was faced with wall of silence for some reason :)
Here are my thoughts :
ST 01 (you will need 300 EW to compensate)
PE 08 (fits the range of energy weapons)
EN 08 (10 would be nice)
CH 01
IN 01-02
AG 10 (needed to shoot :P )
LK 10 (needed to hit what you shoot)
Traits : Bonehead (-1 int), Smallframe (+1 agility)
Perks : 2 x more critical , better critical , 2 x toughness , 2 x lifegiver , brof
Tag ew , faid , science
You need lots of levels (70 maybe) but can take points of PE or END and put them into INT to level up skills faster.
Now I wait for all those turbo plasma users out there to go "boooooo" so you may get a better build :P
P.S. You won't have quest bonus for energy weapons so INT 2 is probably more wise , spend almost all skill points in EW untill level 24.
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Here are my thoughts :
ST 01 (you will need 300 EW to compensate)
PE 08 (fits the range of energy weapons)
EN 08 (10 would be nice)
CH 01
IN 01-02
AG 10 (needed to shoot :P )
LK 10 (needed to hit what you shoot)
Traits : Bonehead (-1 int), Smallframe (+1 agility)
Perks : 2 x more critical , better critical , 2 x toughness , 2 x lifegiver , brof
Tag ew , faid , science
That looks pretty solid to me, though I'm no expert. But personally I wouldn't get small frame with a strength of 1, chem reliant might be better, you are already going to be at a high chance of dropping your weapon with low ST and drugs are plentiful. Plus that build is 40 special points without small frame so it doesn't need any rejigging.
Maybe dropping 1 PE for 1 more EN to give 9 (10 with implant) would help for a little bit of extra durability, and you can also drop level 1 toughness (or both) and just get even tougher, which would free up an extra perk for a third lifegiver, right between the eyes or man of steel, all of which would be more effective than toughness (the rank 1 version at least). You can get more crits at level 3 (or save it till level 5) if you can get EW to 100.
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No way in hell we'll help you make a turbo plasma build man!
Joke aside for turbo plasma build best is to take this:
S10
P1
E1
C10
I10
A1
L1
Bloody mess and jinxed
Perks:
Bonus move
Heave Ho
Pyromaniac
Gain charisma
Medic
Bonus Hth attack
Gambler
Heave Ho+
Tag unarmed, gambling and reserved for maximum efficiency.
Dont forget to bring good gear.
haha
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I lol'd hearty at the "Maximum Efficiency".
Serious though guy, just use the search button next time.
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I searched but only topic on the subject is the one with password protected build and few things were said about laser sniper (I think topic ended with "make sg sniper") :P
Seriously , if anyone will play energy build as first build he will have real fun leveling (and he will need to level up) with no burst support.
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No way in hell we'll help you make a turbo plasma build man!
Joke aside for turbo plasma build best is to take this:
S10
P1
E1
C10
I10
A1
L1
Bloody mess and jinxed
Perks:
Bonus move
Heave Ho
Pyromaniac
Gain charisma
Medic
Bonus Hth attack
Gambler
Heave Ho+
Tag unarmed, gambling and reserved for maximum efficiency.
Dont forget to bring good gear.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo, Johnny!!! Why did you give the stats of the epic secret build! You betrayed us by giving the ennemy our most OP build we worked so hard on!!!
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Because it was funny? ;D
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Yes :)
Now topic started by a guy asking build help still waits for his reply.
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Thanks for all the replies! I can't help but feel that I'm being laughed at for my question (=
No way in hell we'll help you make a turbo plasma build man!
Why won't you help me? Must be my face.
Joke aside for turbo plasma build best is to take this:
S10
P1
E1
C10
I10
A1
L1
Bloody mess and jinxed
Perks:
Bonus move
Heave Ho
Pyromaniac
Gain charisma
Medic
Bonus Hth attack
Gambler
Heave Ho+
Tag unarmed, gambling and reserved for maximum efficiency.
Dont forget to bring good gear.
This doesn't look like the Turbo Plasma build I remember. It does look fun to play though! So just to humor you I shall save this build and create it one day! IM MAKING IT HAPPEN OKAY JOHNNY
well that was funny hello :D
by reversing the give infos you should get to a good build very quick (use forum search.. there are plenty information about it and you should read them all pretty well)
Hello! I tried searching with the keyword "Turbo" + "Plasma" and could not find anything before I posted this. Which makes me think that is not the name for the build or I didn't look hard enough.
I'll look again! Thanks for the response and HELLO TRIQUA (=
I know it's pretty lazy to just ask for help, I just didn't know how else to say hello to everyone (= I look forward to playing this game again! Thanks again guys!
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Don't get wrong idea :)
Turbo plasma is one of deadliest builds here so many think it breaks game , that was the only reason for not so friendly posts.
I myself didn't dare play EW build because I lacked information , maybe make your first build something more easy and use resources and game knowledge later + plasmas are not that easy either to craft or get for new players and laser rifles do little damage to players.
Turbo plasmas are rare weapons and very hard to get / trade.
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Turbo plasma is one of deadliest builds here so many think it breaks game , that was the only reason for not so friendly posts.
Turbo plasma is the best midrange weapon in the game, it has:
-insane damage (140 normal crit on combat helmet mk2)
-huge chance on armor bypass (maybe 40% on tesla helmet) even on 10 luck characters for ~200 damage
-very low AP cost
-can be mixed with a tanky build easely
-~50% chance to KO you if you don't have bonehead/man of steel/stonewall (around 30% with the perks)
-it's a single shot weapon so you don't have to be carefull for friendly fire
-35 hex range (same as avenger, better than 223 pistol, GL, pancor)
-+5 hidden crit mode bonus (both chance and power)
We do not think it breaks the game, it really does! A turboplasma faggot can kill a 325 hp tank with a tesla helmet in 2-3 shots with armor bypasses, or a 245 hp char in 2 groin shots if it crits. And if you take finesse, it becomes insane! Damage is lower, but 2/3 of shots KO and you still deal stupid damage with increased armor bypass rate. And since you can over KO someone, he just never stand up, so you keep shooting until you score armor bypass.
The weapon was nerfed, it had a +10 critroll earlier, now its +5, but most turbos used in combat have bonuses, making it an even more stupid weapon.
Last time I faught against a turbo plasma guy, I shot him twice, moved back and got KO/bypassed for 200 HP at first shot with a tesla helmet and died at second shot. It's like an autokill GM weapon, not fun, requires no skill.
That weapon makes ppl rage, and this is why Johnny doesn't want to help you making a good build, what I can understand.
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Maybe the problem could be solved by reversing KO/KD ?
So instead doing KO (which should still be possible on NPCs) you get KD , Blinded , Weapon drop , hit for higher DMG which could stop tank running to 1 hex but still keep battle going ...
Just shooting in the dark but if that's true for Turbo then regular plasma (which can be crafted with bonuses) would have more or less same effect only less shots and would be bad too.
And then also solve Bozar problem , make them build snipers to use it effectively :P
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Maybe the problem could be solved by reversing KO/KD ?
So instead doing KO (which should still be possible on NPCs) you get KD , Blinded , Weapon drop , hit for higher DMG which could stop tank running to 1 hex but still keep battle going ...
Just shooting in the dark but if that's true for Turbo then regular plasma (which can be crafted with bonuses) would have more or less same effect only less shots and would be bad too.
And then also solve Bozar problem , make them build snipers to use it effectively :P
Exactly why I craft and sold plas rifles with - ap and +5 crit rolls, hopefully with min/max dmg too. Hehe.
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How is that helping problem ? ;D
P.S. After trying warehouse 2 times in 2 teams I came to 3 conclusions :
1. It isn't worht it , 2 ppl (or even) 1 can clear it but when they do they are out of anything and their armors reduced to dust
2. At that point 1 guy can come and kill them without wasting time on megaguards and get all the loot
3.I'm going to greensuit New Reno (sleep well PvPers) and if kill anyone that helped me / I helped I appologize in advance because I won't be typing and my namecolorizing doesn't work so I have no idea who am I shooting at (and YES , I plan to die a 10 000 deaths)
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How is that helping problem ? ;D
P.S. After trying warehouse 2 times in 2 teams I came to 3 conclusions :
1. It isn't worht it , 2 ppl (or even) 1 can clear it but when they do they are out of anything and their armors reduced to dust
2. At that point 1 guy can come and kill them without wasting time on megaguards and get all the loot
3.I'm going to greensuit New Reno (sleep well PvPers) and if kill anyone that helped me / I helped I appologize in advance because I won't be typing and my namecolorizing doesn't work so I have no idea who am I shooting at (and YES , I plan to die a 10 000 deaths)
It's not but damn if it isn't easy money. :P
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New Reno is easy money , you only have to fight players not slags too but this is waaaaaay off topic :P
To bring back on topic , how is regular plasma compared to turbo plasma (in your opinion) ?
And any luck with using laser rifles ?
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well if you want you never fight more then one slag at the same time. so if it isnt the minigun guy you can finish of another player with some decent skill. i just lost 2% of my bridgekeeper in one wh run. that isnt much.
there also repeatable quests where you can get oil cans so that isnt much of a risk also considering the better armors you can get in wh/nr or even craft or find in encounters (brotherhood armors)
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Yes , I think I could with 7-8 more tries and decent gear and then when I am killing the last one and fall to 120 you will masterfully finish me of out of the shadows , nah way ! :)
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someone just wanted to steal locker cause i had to kill the minigun guy at last. but thx we was shooting right in my face "dont touch my locker" so i let him alive and killed that sneaker first ^^
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Yes , I think I could with 7-8 more tries and decent gear and then when I am killing the last one and fall to 120 you will masterfully finish me of out of the shadows , nah way ! :)
Soloing wh is easy and you can do it with most builds unless they are complete shit. I do it with nothing but normal ca mk2 and a normal xl with 500 ap rounds all the time with less than 10 ss. As for getting back stabbed you just have to be smart. Check wm once in a while before you take on minigun etc. I've escaped multiple times from big groups about to spawn in by doing that. If you think wh is too hard the truth is you either havent practiced it enough or are just bad.
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Same gear and same amount of SS , no don't think it's too hard but that "check the WM" thing is what is bugging me because I am once again depending on luck going solo and hoping nobody is there.If I apply that logic I might as well do New Reno and fight the solo guy with gauss/pulse/turbo and if I get lucky and score a kill get that gear and stop coming when more people or just one with much better skill/stats come.
And you can't do it with sniper.
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New Reno is easy money , you only have to fight players not slags too but this is waaaaaay off topic :P
To bring back on topic , how is regular plasma compared to turbo plasma (in your opinion) ?
And any luck with using laser rifles ?
Regulars plasma rifles have shorter range (30 instead of 35) and a bit lower damage, but it's still a very good weapon, and a good plasma rifle with ap-1, damage and crit bonus is almost the same as a turbo plasma rifle.
Laser rifle is better for long range fights. It doesn't have that bullshit hidden crit bonus, but it has a very good range (45 for normal, 47 for extended cap).
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Yes , I noticed that 2 shot kill by plasma on CAMK2 :P
That sort of effect could be reserved for electric/pulse weapons.
On the other hand if it depends on character like with sniper rifle (taking ALL needed perks you are left at around 150HP and 15% DR , take Jet to be able to shoot twice and it's 0) then it seems ok.
If that was tank shooting then gg.
To get on topic :
What is absolute minimum of EW skill for 2 ST 6 PE 10LK 25 % crit chance (for example) char to be able to use Plasma Pistol as secondary weapon :) ?
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You can aim with most midrange weapons in eyes with 1 ST, just compensate with spent skill points or buffout/psycho.
6 Perception is fine for turbo plasma rifle: 6-1(psycho)=5 => 35 hex sight range
There is no "minimum luck", but the higher the best.
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Well... You can also use it. You can also counter it with range as a sniper or with 1hex as a sneaker. Or you can just gamble that he won't crit you insanely as you slowly runs up to him to 1hex him with your tank burst build.
"Tanks" cannot be good for everything... And certainly, if a person with alot of Hit Points was hit by Plasma... I'm pretty sure it'd not matter how strong he is (it comes down to the armor and plasma eats combat armor). Basically, you can compare what you're saying with 1hex tanks against anything else.
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Yes , I think I could with 7-8 more tries and decent gear and then when I am killing the last one and fall to 120 you will masterfully finish me of out of the shadows , nah way ! :)
Soloing wh is easy and you can do it with most builds unless they are complete shit. I do it with nothing but normal ca mk2 and a normal xl with 500 ap rounds all the time with less than 10 ss. As for getting back stabbed you just have to be smart. Check wm once in a while before you take on minigun etc. I've escaped multiple times from big groups about to spawn in by doing that. If you think wh is too hard the truth is you either havent practiced it enough or are just bad.
You're obviously clearing it with a 1hex tank, and never tried anything else.
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If you're still looking for a build, PM me and i'll see how deep you're willing to go.
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Yes , I think I could with 7-8 more tries and decent gear and then when I am killing the last one and fall to 120 you will masterfully finish me of out of the shadows , nah way ! :)
Soloing wh is easy and you can do it with most builds unless they are complete shit. I do it with nothing but normal ca mk2 and a normal xl with 500 ap rounds all the time with less than 10 ss. As for getting back stabbed you just have to be smart. Check wm once in a while before you take on minigun etc. I've escaped multiple times from big groups about to spawn in by doing that. If you think wh is too hard the truth is you either havent practiced it enough or are just bad.
You're obviously clearing it with a 1hex tank, and never tried anything else.
You don't need to be a tank to clear it. All you need is a bozar and then make sure you only aggro 1 at a time. Then you grab a Gatling laser and 1 hex the minigun. And you don't need to be a tank either. Look at johnny ghouls video where he cleared it with a char with no toughnesses that's very squishy. You can't clear it with a normal sniper rifle because those are shit. Use good gear and you can no problem.
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But regardless, if you want to solo warehouse and for some reason your build absolutely cannot because its made as some sort of crafter with no gun skill but small guns and finesse or some shit, then its time to make a new build instead of being lazy and wanting to be able to solo wh using no gear and a bad build.
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Well... it don't HAVE to be a tank, but definitely MUST be a 1hex. Unless you've got 100AP
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Well... it don't HAVE to be a tank, but definitely MUST be a 1hex. Unless you've got 100AP
No I just explained that you don't need to hex if you use bozar except maybe the minigun.
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Well... it don't HAVE to be a tank, but definitely MUST be a 1hex. Unless you've got 100AP
No I just explained that you don't need to hex if you use bozar except maybe the minigun.
You didn't explain to me anything, you just said it like you know all about it while not convincing me with anything that makes sense
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all you need is all the BRD's, grab a burst weapon... put a few lifegivers and DR's
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Well... it don't HAVE to be a tank, but definitely MUST be a 1hex. Unless you've got 100AP
No I just explained that you don't need to hex if you use bozar except maybe the minigun.
You didn't explain to me anything, you just said it like you know all about it while not convincing me with anything that makes sense
Like I have already said. You take the bozar and make it burst. Then you go and aggro a single slag. No less than 1 and no more than 1. You shoot them from far as you can and spam burst them. They die. Repeat ad nauseum. Its not very complicated so I assumed you'd understand. But you can't do this because all you have is a shit 79 HP sniper that can only use a laser rifle and nothing else.
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It's 8PE Char that has 6 PE with psycho but I probably screwed up and went for 10 LK 2 x More Critical instead using 3 x ranged damage so maybe I should have went with good P90 instead XL.
Nice guide to easy way to solo WH , plasma pistol I asked because it's easy to craft and is used by starting EW builds so if you are critted by plasma or make weapon drop you can always have one of these as backup and shoot at close for low AP cost , no time to play now but I'm guessing around 100 EW skill is probably enough at close range.