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Title: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: DraXaly on August 29, 2014, 08:00:41 am

Traits:
Fastshot
Small Frame

SPECIAL:
ST:08
PE:07
EN:10
CH:01
IN:03
AG:09
LK:03

Tagged Skills:
Big Guns
First Aid
Lockpick

Perks:
Adrenaline Rush @3
Toughness @6
Even Tougher @9
Iron Grip @12
Living Anatomy @15
Medic @18
Man of Steel @ 21
Bonus Rate of Fire @30

HP@198 & both Resistances

Theme:
The idea with this build is to live in the Boneyard locker hunting, collecting junk & blasting fools.

If you could give some feedback about special and perks etc would help out alot.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: DocAN on August 29, 2014, 08:36:30 am

if your goal is to spam with LSW better take 2x Action Boy instead of MoS and Medic perk

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: triqua on August 29, 2014, 09:09:55 am

if i looked correctly at your build you forgot to take a perk at lvl 9. and you must take your last perk (as far as i know) before level 30.

i also suggest taking some action boys instead of medic or iron grip. with 8 str it is already hard to cripple your limbs or make your weapon drop.

maybe consider taking more ranged damage .. you will burst and rarely make singleshots so more dmg per bullet shoot is your way to maximize dmg

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: DraXaly on August 29, 2014, 10:14:02 am

Quote from: triqua on August 29, 2014, 09:09:55 am

i also suggest taking some action boys instead of medic or iron grip. with 8 str it is already hard to cripple your limbs or make your weapon drop.

maybe consider taking more ranged damage .. you will burst and rarely make singleshots so more dmg per bullet shoot is your way to maximize dmg

So what your saying is the Iron Grip perk is trash and wont protect me from the crippling weapon drops due to the low luck. And the idea is to do good sustained damage in a group or in Turnbased singleplayer farm mode, I was more leaning towards hard to kill than doing more damage. but then wont snipers cap my ass superfast in a shootout?

;TLDR
Iron Grip is trash, More Damage for less survival.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: triqua on August 29, 2014, 10:29:05 am

as far as i got you right you are aiming at mostly pve? and pvp only if someone enters your encounter?

i think iron grip will of course lower weapon drops.. but you will have in general low weapon drops so it isn't that necessary. and you still can have a 2nd gun with you to be 100% safe ;) also with a good character you can go farm bounty hunters (or farm then in small groups) for super stimpaks.. than you dont need to rely on first aid. many roads lead to rome you know :)

€dit:
Requirements    for Living Anatomy: Level 12, First Aid 150 (wiki) // for medic you need 175 first aid.
If you also want to get Bonus Rate of Fire (180 bg in your case) you dont have enough int i think.
please test your build here (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=619.0) or here (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=6.0).

if i had to make a similiar build, i would take 2 lifegivers instead of medic/living anatomy. with 200 FA you have something like 2 minutes cooldown for FA, if you need like a fa in an encounter you will have enough time to reuse it after looting and exiting encounter (you can use FA on worldmap also)

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: mojuk on August 29, 2014, 11:23:27 am

Quote from: DraXaly on August 29, 2014, 10:14:02 am

I was more leaning towards hard to kill than doing more damage.

If so then take 3x Lifegiver instead of Iron Grip, Living Anatomy, Medic. With 200 FA you have 90s cooldown which is short enough in most cases.
Or even 2x Lifegiver + 2x Action Boy and drop Man of Steel. Anyways HP >> chance to resist some critical effects.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Cerberix on August 29, 2014, 11:27:08 am

How about something like this?

(http://i.imgur.com/173oxeE.png) (http://imgur.com/173oxeE)

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: DraXaly on August 29, 2014, 11:43:15 am

That last one looks allright. Im thinking just drop the gimmicky medic stuff how often will I have to doctor and first aid myself anyway?

one question how much damage will an LSW on single shot do against someone wearing CA mk2 with both resistances and Psycho? 5-13 so 15- 23?

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Kaaon on August 29, 2014, 12:06:41 pm

Cerber's build is good but i would also take Living Anatomy, if you dont want to take Living Anatomy then you can decrease your IN to 1
btw why BG (LSW) ?

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Yuno-Gasai on August 29, 2014, 01:00:43 pm

Too much strength, too low pe, take bonus move instead of Adrenaline rush.

Perks from lvl 12 to 21 are completely useless l, take 2x action boy, another lifegiver, and sharpshooter if you plan on taking drugs. Or another lifegiver

Remove all LK and put in intelligence, 200 bg and 150 lockpick is enough,  invest rest of SP into FA,DOC, and outdoors.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Barneys on August 29, 2014, 01:11:59 pm

Dont listen to bananaman

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Yuno-Gasai on August 29, 2014, 01:27:16 pm

Quote from: Barneys on August 29, 2014, 01:11:59 pm

Dont listen to bananaman

This build is complete shit, if he takes drugs he'll have low sequence, just high FA skill can heal him to Max hp.

And nothing in boneyard can do bypass, except mutant remnants if he chooses to fight them.

Another player too but everyone is TB spamming.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Barneys on August 29, 2014, 01:32:16 pm

Cerber build is fine

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: triqua on August 29, 2014, 01:32:31 pm

he has to tell us if he wants to do realtime or turn based combat

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Yuno-Gasai on August 29, 2014, 01:33:43 pm

Quote from: triqua on August 29, 2014, 01:32:31 pm

he has to tell us if he wants to do realtime or turn based combat

who's gonna spam in RT...

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: DocAN on August 29, 2014, 03:09:15 pm

Quote from: bananaman on August 29, 2014, 01:33:43 pm

Quote from: triqua on August 29, 2014, 01:32:31 pm

he has to tell us if he wants to do realtime or turn based combat

who's gonna spam in RT...

Trust me, there are such players  :D

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: DraXaly on August 29, 2014, 05:56:40 pm

Quote from: Seki on August 29, 2014, 12:06:41 pm

Cerber's build is good but i would also take Living Anatomy, if you dont want to take Living Anatomy then you can decrease your IN to 1
btw why BG (LSW) ?

So Replace one of the Action boys for a Living Anatomy, would this do more damage as a plasma, or .223/sniper spammer,

Regarding DocAn Ive seen spammers in PvP and they do pretty good damage but if they arnt backed up then they will get out dpsed so they do the job just not as good as the other builds. Probly wont be taking this one for much PvP anyway

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Wind_Drift on August 29, 2014, 07:26:27 pm

Sequence that low will kill you faster in TB than I will. The way TB works at the moment is if you don't shoot first, you're pretty much done for.

Come to Boneyard with any of these builds and you'll just get farmed for gear.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Gimper on August 30, 2014, 02:43:14 am

In my opinion, Wind_Drift is the best turn based player on this server. Take his word for it.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Wind_Drift on August 30, 2014, 04:44:13 am

I'll suggest this build: (Not mine, but similar)

3 9 10 1 5 10 3, Small Frame/Fast Shot
Tag: Weapon Skill, First Aid, Lockpick.

3 - Bonus Move
6 - Earlier Sequence
9 - Quick Pockets
12 - Action Boy
15 - Lifegiver 1
18 - Bonus Rate Of Fire
21 - Lifegiver 2
24 - Action Boy -or- Living Anatomy*

Weapons: 180 to start, bump to 300 after all perks are obtained
First Aid: 150
Outdoors: 100 (use books)
Doc: 50 - 100
Lockpick - 150

Drugs: Jet, Buffout, Nuka, Cigs

*Action Boy and Living Anatomy:  If you're going to use LSW or Small Guns, drop the second Action Boy in favor of Living Anatomy.  You'll get more damage per turn from LA than an extra shot.  If you decide to go with a Turbo Plasma build, take the extra Action Boy and forget about Living Anatomy.  <<< Opinion only, not verified by experts.

If you absolutely have to cling to the idea that high HP/DR is a must for TB, you can take the third Lifegiver instead.

DO get Cautious Nature.

Level 50 should work for this.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Yuno-Gasai on August 30, 2014, 05:05:21 am

This is what I suggest

5 10 10 1 5 9 1, small frame, fast shot

Perks in order:

bonus move
toughness
even tougher
lifegiver
actionboy
BROF
lifegiver
lifegiver OR Action boy OR sharp shooter.

choose lifegiver and have 285 HP with 7 PE, 14 sequence, extra 35% DR res. (nuka, phsycho, cigs and beer)

choose actionboy and have 245 HP with same stats as above (if you take those 4 drugs) but with 12 AP, 12 shots or 13 with +AP armor or 15 if you decide to take jet.

sharpshooter you'll  have 11 AP with same sequence (14) and same DR resistance, only difference you'll have max range with LSW

you'll have 200% BG or EW (EW is best option, LSW is decent but wont do as much damage compared to laser or plasma)

150% lockpick

128% FA, all this at lvl 24.

Luck doesn't effect locker chance and what spawns, hardly nobody takes aimed shoter in TB combat, i I think nobody does.

only thing that can be a deadly bypass is unity patrol with laser rifle but if you're gonna be locker hunting in boneyard, shouldn't worry about them.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Wind_Drift on August 30, 2014, 05:17:19 am

Quote from: bananaman on August 30, 2014, 05:05:21 am

This is what I suggest

5 10 10 1 5 9 1, small frame, fast shot

Perks in order:

bonus move
toughness
even tougher
lifegiver
actionboy
BROF
lifegiver
lifegiver OR Action boy OR sharp shooter.

choose lifegiver and have 285 HP with 7 PE, 14 sequence, extra 35% DR res. (nuka, phsycho, cigs and beer)

choose actionboy and have 245 HP with same stats as above (if you take those 4 drugs) but with 12 AP, 12 shots or 13 with +AP armor or 15 if you decide to take jet.

sharpshooter you'll  have 11 AP with same sequence (14) and same DR resistance, only difference you'll have max range with LSW

you'll have 200% BG or EW (EW is best option, LSW is decent but wont do as much damage compared to laser or plasma)

150% lockpick

128% FA, all this at lvl 24.

Luck doesn't effect locker chance and what spawns, hardly nobody takes aimed shoter in TB combat, i I think nobody does.

only thing that can be a deadly bypass is unity patrol with laser rifle but if you're gonna be locker hunting in boneyard, shouldn't worry about them.

What in the utter fuck.

Seriously, OP, don't roll this character.

However, if you do, make sure you bring nice gear.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Mighty on August 30, 2014, 10:06:58 am

It is a subject about fastshoot, and there is no crying about imbalance fastshoot?
Reloaded forum, this is you?

Spoiler: show

(http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/9cz/M7L/9czM7LycE.svg)

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Yuno-Gasai on August 30, 2014, 04:19:30 pm

@wind drift

Would you like to explain why my character is shit?

So far yours is shit, 3 LK is a waste, its either 4 or 5, if not that then better to take 1 LK

And TB PvP is broken so don't think your all high and mighty, it comes down to whoever started combat first, maybe should stick with it because you sucked in Reno ;)

Also wind drifts build doesn't have toughness and takes jet? He'll die by someone in 2 burst

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Wind_Drift on August 30, 2014, 05:15:07 pm

Took LK 3 to safeguard against critical misses and the occasional critical unaimed shot. Works fine. You're welcome to test your build against mine in TB any time. Yes, TB is broken, but that's why anything less than 22 sequence is fail.

As far as Wind Drifts build, no jet. Psycho/Buff/Cigs/Nuka and. Beer for Reno. But I'm certain I'm mistaken, since you and your infinite fucking wisdom about everyone else is reality, right?

That build is only level 27, because I've been lazy with it. Aimed shot builds are still tucking junk on this server, and it has no implants at all. That being said, I'm not a pro PvP/RT player, because I don't care. I know TB though.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Yuno-Gasai on August 30, 2014, 05:24:15 pm

TB is just broken, if it was back in 2238, that would require skill, and people would actually bring bursters back then. So don't be like you know all about TB


And ya I'm Willing to beat your ass but as I said,  its going to come down whoever shoots first.

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Wind_Drift on August 30, 2014, 05:52:08 pm

Quote from: bananaman on August 30, 2014, 05:24:15 pm

TB is just broken, if it was back in 2238, that would require skill, and people would actually bring bursters back then. So don't be like you know all about TB


And ya I'm Willing to beat your ass but as I said,  its going to come down whoever shoots first.

I had many TB builds in previous sessions, I know full well how it works.

Typhus is my character - which isn't the build I posted. Come find me when you see me.

 ;)

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Mighty on August 30, 2014, 06:23:26 pm

Quote from: bananaman on August 30, 2014, 04:19:30 pm

And TB PvP is broken so don't think your all high and mighty, it comes down to whoever started combat first, maybe should stick with it because you sucked in Reno ;)

(http://cs7011.vk.me/c614925/v614925061/6c9c/tl459e8ob2g.jpg)

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: DraXaly on August 31, 2014, 02:55:04 am

(http://i.imgur.com/WWIlucp.jpg)
What I was thinking is for level 3 there arnt any good perks aside from Adrenaline Rush and I have 1ST.

Would you guys think this would be better. In the early days take Buffout and later on take Nuka Cola instead

Taking Small guns at the start and building into Energy Weapons later, after the core skills are complete

Title: Re: Build: BG Spammer Medic
Post by: Wind_Drift on August 31, 2014, 03:27:54 am

You don't need 9 LK, you can get ST up to 5 if you bring LK down to 5, you could take Adrenaline Rush then if you wanted.  This will also prevent you from needing to use Buffout with 9 AG for the weapon ST requirement (would need 10 AG to use Buffout).

It's not terrible, it'll work for ya in most cases as long as it's 1 vs 1.

ETA - Don't forget Boneyard Guard before you start putting points into SG.