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Pulse pistol craftable
« on: November 27, 2013, 07:43:29 pm »
Considering how hard it is to get this weapon there is almost no point in using it over plasma rifle,i suggest make it craftable so with some bonuses it could find its use amongst pvpers.

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 09:38:54 pm »
+1

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 11:57:55 pm »
-1ap pulse pistol?;) hahahaha

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2013, 01:19:58 am »
-1ap pulse pistol?;) hahahaha
Yeah so what? Compared to pancor it deals very similar damage plus rbte,better and critchance are mandatory.

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2013, 06:31:13 am »
Silent death sneakers. Pulse is fine as it is. If you want craftable pulse pistol i want craftable vindicator/gatling and bozar ;)

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2013, 07:07:33 am »
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This wouldn't be OP, SGs like .223 pistol will deal more damage anyway, due to penetration.
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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 07:58:42 am »
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This wouldn't be OP, SGs like .223 pistol will deal more damage anyway, due to penetration.

You should count in fact that armor's electrical DR is lower, than normal DR.
Especially on helmets (Combat helmet DR/DT Normal - 40/5, Electrical - 30/2)

Also Psycho and Beer gives +20% normal DR and toughness(x2) gives up to +15%. Normal, not electrical.

So that is 75%/10 Normal DR/DT
and 30%/2 Electrical DR/DT
on a drugged+toughness combat helmet.

.223 ammo lower DR by 30%
and Penetrate perk on .223 pistol lowers DT to 1/3 of normal value.

45%/3 Normal DR/DT (drugged+toughness(x2)) against .223 pistol
30%/2 Normal DR/DT (drugged) against .223 pistol
25%/3 Normal DR/DT (toughness(x2)) against .223 pistol
10%/2 Normal DR/DT (clean) against .223 pistol

30%/2 Electrical DR/DT against Pulse pistol

.223 pistol    30 - 40 damage = 35 on average
YK32 Pulse Pistol 35 - 50 damage = 42 on average

Against armor:
YK32 Pulse Pistol = (42-2)*0.7 = 28 damage on average
.223 pistol (drugged+toughness(x2)) = (35-3)*0.55 = 17,6 damage on average
.223 pistol (drugged) = (35-2)*0.7 = 23,1 damage on average
.223 pistol (toughness(x2)) = (35-3)*0.75 = 24 damage on average
.223 pistol (clean) = (35-2)*0.9 = 29,7 damage on average

The more base damage - the more it gains from multipliers
YK32 Pulse Pistol have 7 more average base damage.
Count in +20% min damage/ +20% max damage  "enchantment"
and critical hit multipliers.

So again...
Will .223 Pistol deal more damage than YK32 Pulse Pistol?
« Last Edit: November 28, 2013, 08:07:20 am by ElSlayer »

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 08:52:58 am »
Silent death sneakers. Pulse is fine as it is. If you want craftable pulse pistol i want craftable vindicator/gatling and bozar ;)
Lsw sneak? pancor sneak? Get your shit together son you buggin out.
+1

This wouldn't be OP, SGs like .223 pistol will deal more damage anyway, due to penetration.

You should count in fact that armor's electrical DR is lower, than normal DR.
Especially on helmets (Combat helmet DR/DT Normal - 40/5, Electrical - 30/2)

Also Psycho and Beer gives +20% normal DR and toughness(x2) gives up to +15%. Normal, not electrical.

So that is 75%/10 Normal DR/DT
and 30%/2 Electrical DR/DT
on a drugged+toughness combat helmet.

.223 ammo lower DR by 30%
and Penetrate perk on .223 pistol lowers DT to 1/3 of normal value.

45%/3 Normal DR/DT (drugged+toughness(x2)) against .223 pistol
30%/2 Normal DR/DT (drugged) against .223 pistol
25%/3 Normal DR/DT (toughness(x2)) against .223 pistol
10%/2 Normal DR/DT (clean) against .223 pistol

30%/2 Electrical DR/DT against Pulse pistol

.223 pistol    30 - 40 damage = 35 on average
YK32 Pulse Pistol 35 - 50 damage = 42 on average

Against armor:
YK32 Pulse Pistol = (42-2)*0.7 = 28 damage on average
.223 pistol (drugged+toughness(x2)) = (35-3)*0.55 = 17,6 damage on average
.223 pistol (drugged) = (35-2)*0.7 = 23,1 damage on average
.223 pistol (toughness(x2)) = (35-3)*0.75 = 24 damage on average
.223 pistol (clean) = (35-2)*0.9 = 29,7 damage on average

The more base damage - the more it gains from multipliers
YK32 Pulse Pistol have 7 more average base damage.
Count in +20% min damage/ +20% max damage  "enchantment"
and critical hit multipliers.

So again...
Will .223 Pistol deal more damage than YK32 Pulse Pistol?
It prolly wont but you should take into consideration also pancor and lsw both got the same ap cost and similar range.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2013, 09:06:26 am by Adams »

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2013, 09:05:08 am »
Considering how hard it is to get this weapon there is almost no point in using it over plasma rifle,i suggest make it craftable so with some bonuses it could find its use amongst pvpers.

perhaps just make the ammo craftable

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2013, 09:25:58 am »
+1 from me
I think all weapons should be craftable, but some should be really not worth to. Like 3 steps to get to, and each step would need rare blueprints.

For example for pulse pistol it could be:
1. High voltage capacitor
2. Shockproof Mainboard
  • 1x HQA
  • 10x EP
  • 1x GMP
  • 1x High Voltage Capacitor
3. Magnetron
4. Pulse Pistol
  • 4x High Voltage Capacitor
  • 2x Shockproof Mainboard
  • 1x Magnetron
  • 1x Wood
  • 1x GMP
  • 1x HQA

Of course each element would require blueprint and advanced workbench.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2013, 09:29:19 am by Eloar »

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2013, 09:36:11 am »
nope. we have many different weapons and most of them are were usefull in pvp. craftable pulse pistol would be much to op and it would take crown of the best ew pistol like 223 is king of craftable sg pistols.

if you want to make them more deadly ask kilgore to boost them.

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2013, 09:41:06 am »
nope. we have many different weapons and most of them are were usefull in pvp. craftable pulse pistol would be much to op and it would take crown of the best ew pistol like 223 is king of craftable sg pistols.

if you want to make them more deadly ask kilgore to boost them.
I would rather ask you to stop spamming this topic with your bullshit.

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2013, 10:13:11 am »
perhaps just make the ammo craftable
It is.
Ammo    Small Energy Cells

nope. we have many different weapons and most of them are were usefull in pvp. craftable pulse pistol would be much to op and it would take crown of the best ew pistol like 223 is king of craftable sg pistols.

if you want to make them more deadly ask kilgore to boost them.

It is not right to talk about PvP in general.
First of all you should separate TC and non-TC.
And in TC, as far as I know, both of them doesn't do much.

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2013, 03:59:26 am »
wait he didnt mean the gauss pistol?

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Re: Pulse pistol craftable
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2013, 01:47:59 pm »
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