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Hungry Hungry Shark

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builds for crafters
« on: March 13, 2016, 03:36:44 am »
idea to spice up crafting

-Upgrades on crafted items are reflection of the crafter's build

     example (attempt at balanced out between SPECIALS so that each one is useful for both armor and weapon)
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1.crafter with 10 perception, = higher chance to craft item with +1 perception; accuracy, or range,
2.LUCK;                                =more +1 luck, more crit chance, crit resist
3.agility                                =more +1 AP; explode resist
4. EN                                    =normal resists; healing rate, rad resist
5. INT                                   =more max dmg, fire resist
6. ST                                     =more carryweight; crit power resist, min dmg
7. CH                                     = IDFK???


     So making crafter would require some thinking about what upgrades you are interested in.

Numbers:

Each SPECIAL point =2% chance so normal 40 SPECIAL points = 80%, while 20% is complete random
So 10 LK = 20% chance for upgrade to be from the luck category
and so on for the rest of stats.

Example build: S:1 P:7 E:1 C:1 I:10 A:10 L:10 =

2%more carryweight; crit power resist, min dmg
14%higher chance to craft item with +1 perception; accuracy, or range,
2%normal resists; healing rate, rad resist
2%charisma
20%more max dmg, fire resist
20%more +1 AP; explode resist
20%more +1 luck, more crit chance, crit resist
------added up=
80% + 20% complete random

Chance for upgraded item and how many upgrades would be same as now . Only chance of which upgrades you're getting changes.

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2016, 09:44:23 am »
It will force players to use alts for Armors/Weapons etc.

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 10:05:12 am »
I don't think the same like docan. Specific characters will craft stuff for themself. For ex. sniper characters will craft stuff with +1 perception, accuracy, or range, +1 luck, more crit chance, crit resist, +1 AP, explode resist.
Tanks will craft more carryweight, crit power resist, min dmg, normal resists, healing rate, rad resist.
Etc...
Every kind of those characters will craft for specific stats, experience, leveling. For now we have here alts forced to craft only because players don't want to waste their time for mutie gr quest. With this idea there is no crafter alt needed anymore.

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 02:55:49 pm »
1. I'm afraid of what Docan wrote.
2. You forgot about poison resist pal :D
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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2016, 04:34:16 pm »
You say "alts" as if thats an ugly word. I just see more variability and gameplay

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2016, 06:03:16 pm »
Now is one crafter after it would be few crafters to eq u need
So its kinda dumb
Idea isnt bad but it will just increase "alts" counter instead of decrasing it coz most pvp builds use small frame and this force ppl to get carry pet even for crafting just few guns
And you just cant bring them into gr factory
And that is just tip of the iceberg

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2016, 06:26:51 pm »
Now is one crafter after it would be few crafters to eq u need
So its kinda dumb
Idea isnt bad but it will just increase "alts" counter instead of decrasing it coz most pvp builds use small frame and this force ppl to get carry pet even for crafting just few guns
And you just cant bring them into gr factory
And that is just tip of the iceberg

Praise the sun and leave crafting for pros!!!

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2016, 07:29:26 pm »
solaire, it's not suggestion to split crafting from 1 to several crafters. The important part is this: a crafter would not be able to choose every bonus, so he would have to pick some over others.

Look at the example, the crafter's weapon's would lack "min dmg" and his armors would lack "crit power resist + normal resist".

No matter how many alts, you would not be able to choose all the bonuses, so you need to prioritize some over others.

Result: differences in crafter's products based on his build.

You can make alt with build for crafting of critical chance and extra action point, or you can make build for crafting weapons with min/max dmg. But you can't make one that does both. Do you see how this makes players think more and makes it interesting?

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2016, 10:19:18 pm »
After all this idea sounds cool but you never checked how ppl may use that option
For example at first wh locker was in basement what ended with ppl camping stairs which ended in one team contoling basement for around 12h (i was there for 2h with them just to shoot some ppl and chat i wasnt caring about that loot)
I dont even remeber who they were now coz who cares about it now
So i was just finding a hole in the whole coz if we didnt check it now it will result in exploits later
And totaly random bonuses are good coz its just this randomness that rule the fallout 1 and 2 games even with max skill u can miss single shot having gun near enemy head that just fit the game

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2016, 10:43:20 pm »
I never had "crafter character" coz it's pointless here. With craft you can gain a lot of exp, bp and are cheap as hell and proffessions are easy to get. For me it doesn't matter if it will be changed or not.

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2016, 10:57:52 pm »
I use crafter with good carry to make stuff in big amounts coz i use gr factory

Praise the sun and and fortress factory!!!

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2016, 04:43:29 pm »
I use crafter with good carry to make stuff in big amounts coz i use gr factory

Praise the sun and and fortress factory!!!

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2016, 05:17:38 pm »
I know but i just like to craft in gr its safe there and i like it cool and calm place

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2016, 06:12:01 am »
-1 like said earlier, it would just mean more alts.

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Re: builds for crafters
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2016, 10:19:18 pm »
I like the idea.