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mrx

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Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« on: September 08, 2013, 10:24:00 am »
Which perk is better?

Man of Steel gives:
"+10 bonus to your armor's critical hit chance and critical power modifiers"
Stonewall gives:
 "???" - yeah... what it rly gives?

Old players pls help...

Space

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 11:00:19 am »
From my personal experience stonewall is better, but I dont know how it really works. If it`s only protection from being knock down, not knock-out take "iron man" perk.

mojuk

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2013, 11:59:37 am »
Stonewall gives you:

- roll from 1 to 10 vs your endurace to avoid knockdown
(so with 10 endurance you are immune to knockdowns)

- roll from 1 to 10 vs (your endurace - 5) to avoid knockout
(50% chance to avoid with 10 endurance)

- half knockback distance when hit by shotgun or explosion
:facepalm

Kelin

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2013, 12:13:19 pm »
Personally I prefer stonewall because you will never ever get knocked down, and it gives you some protection against knock outs as well. You get knocked down quite a lot with Man of Steel, knock outs are rare, nevertheless, it decreases damage of critical hits of all kinds, which is the main advantage over the stonewall.

Gooseberry

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2013, 12:38:11 pm »
Bassicly man of steel lowers your oponents critroll and critchance. So that potential blinding shot, wont blind you because that bullet had its crit roll reduced.

I would take man of steel over stonewall anyday.

Besmrtnik

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2013, 01:45:39 pm »
all pvp chars should have doctor, I would rather be blinded than knockouted, if I am blinded just doctor imidietly, if you are knockouted then well thants kind a shit :D

Gooseberry

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2013, 03:52:54 pm »
It helps vs knockout aswell, because it reduces the critroll needed for a knockout roll.

SSakul

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 04:59:50 am »
From my personal Experience , If u take bonehead + Man Of steel , U are better protected , U dont get almost any KO and that difference between aim shots with stonewall and man of steel is rly HUGE . Take bonehead + mos .

Roland19

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2014, 12:42:52 pm »
I read this topic many times, but never realized, stonewall affects the resistance (I mean the knockouts)  from missiles? This question is very interested in me, I will be incredibly grateful for an answer  :D

Kascin

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2014, 03:03:06 pm »
Stonewall limits the knockback of the rocket launchers: instead of being knockbacked for 4 or 5 hexes, it's only for 1 or 2 (maybe 0 sometimes, don't remember).
So you get up faster.

Kelin

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2014, 04:50:01 pm »
Are you 100% sure Kascin? Because I don't think stonewall affects this (even though it should).

Kascin

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2014, 05:36:32 pm »
I was 100% sure on 2238, I haven't tested it on Reloaded.

But it's not too hard to check :)

Roland19

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2014, 06:45:55 pm »
Thanks for answers !

sogabe

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Re: Stonewall vs. Man of Steel
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 07:08:03 am »
so does Stonewall with 10EN gives you immunity to knockouts by 10STR, heavy-handed mega power fist??