Bring back TC windows

[Ion Cannon]

Go hinkley practice something, coz you are total noob - not even worth to waste my time.

#talkstraightfromheart

King of pvp masta with sniper rifle, rly?

[Destiny]

This is getting a little bit off topic folks..

[maszrum]

More and more experienced players stopped playing fonline games, also a lot of them will do it in future. Only few pro uber skill pvp apes will stay with their strong teams  and they will always win with new players.

Thats one of biggest problem of any FOnline server - Veterans, expirienced players. If you ignore TC , strong gangs will stop playing or like other servers, they will go look for PvP in other places like for example in FO2 where devs totaly ingored team PvP and gangs and bigger grops moved to dungeons where loners and less expirienced players were playing own game and spoiled their fun. Dozens, dozens players left FOnline becouse of that.

[mkhammer]

More and more experienced players stopped playing fonline games, also a lot of them will do it in future. Only few pro uber skill pvp apes will stay with their strong teams  and they will always win with new players.

Thats one of biggest problem of any FOnline server - Veterans, expirienced players. If you ignore TC , strong gangs will stop playing or like other servers, they will go look for PvP in other places like for example in FO2 where devs totaly ingored team PvP and gangs and bigger grops moved to dungeons where loners and less expirienced players were playing own game and spoiled their fun. Dozens, dozens players left FOnline becouse of that.

Dozen players left fo2 cuz rascal told them gtfo, so they left without any comment ;]. Only players addicted to computer games stayed cuz they re losers in rl. But we re not talking about fo2. Personaly I never arrive on fo2, cuż i got enough cheats, rascal etc.

-1 to set any tc windows etc. Toilet control is also funny. Just dont take sniper on every action.


In addition to that you You can cover Your city at night if You dont want to lose Your caps to some nubs from UV. They also need to wait a lot of time till You go sleep so They can start tc

[Ion Cannon]

Big group of players don't simply give a fuck about PvP, they just want to hunt their geckos or some other mobs.
PvP players are minority, PvE is the way the MMOs should be priority, apes can go away I don't care, I can kiss them goodbye and let em go on fo2 or somewhere else, that would be even better for the communtiy, pvp apes are most toxic, unfaithful, unfair, and egoistic kind of players, I hope those veteran apes die out quickly or cry and ragequit, because they destroy the gameplay.
In every other single mmo game PvE is priority, and PvP is the endgame, there we got a problem, where apes want majority (other players) to participate in some PvP activities they don't want.
Although it may be offtopic and is, TC is not viable option, but as said, no one came with a better idea, but still, TC destroys the ability to get to those cities at prime times.

Changing places from TC in classic cities (Modoc, Redding, BH, Gecko, Klamath and Den) to specialized locations for those shitty apes, to locations like "factory" "toxic waste dump" "hi-teq-facility" "old-fort" and so on, PvP apes will have their dumbass activity still, and normal majority of players can visit their cities with ease.

PS, Changing or introducing tc-windows won't change anything so far.

[Beer]

Big group of players don't simply give a fuck about PvP, they just want to hunt their geckos or some other mobs.
PvP players are minority, PvE is the way the MMOs should be priority, apes can go away I don't care, I can kiss them goodbye and let em go on fo2 or somewhere else, that would be even better for the communtiy, pvp apes are most toxic, unfaithful, unfair, and egoistic kind of players, I hope those veteran apes die out quickly or cry and ragequit, because they destroy the gameplay.
In every other single mmo game PvE is priority, and PvP is the endgame, there we got a problem, where apes want majority (other players) to participate in some PvP activities they don't want.
Although it may be offtopic and is, TC is not viable option, but as said, no one came with a better idea, but still, TC destroys the ability to get to those cities at prime times.

Changing places from TC in classic cities (Modoc, Redding, BH, Gecko, Klamath and Den) to specialized locations for those shitty apes, to locations like "factory" "toxic waste dump" "hi-teq-facility" "old-fort" and so on, PvP apes will have their dumbass activity still, and normal majority of players can visit their cities with ease.

PS, Changing or introducing tc-windows won't change anything so far.

Interesting how the guy who hates PvP thinks he knows everything about it and how windows would affect it. 

[Ion Cannon]

Big group of players don't simply give a fuck about PvP, they just want to hunt their geckos or some other mobs.
PvP players are minority, PvE is the way the MMOs should be priority, apes can go away I don't care, I can kiss them goodbye and let em go on fo2 or somewhere else, that would be even better for the communtiy, pvp apes are most toxic, unfaithful, unfair, and egoistic kind of players, I hope those veteran apes die out quickly or cry and ragequit, because they destroy the gameplay.
In every other single mmo game PvE is priority, and PvP is the endgame, there we got a problem, where apes want majority (other players) to participate in some PvP activities they don't want.
Although it may be offtopic and is, TC is not viable option, but as said, no one came with a better idea, but still, TC destroys the ability to get to those cities at prime times.

Changing places from TC in classic cities (Modoc, Redding, BH, Gecko, Klamath and Den) to specialized locations for those shitty apes, to locations like "factory" "toxic waste dump" "hi-teq-facility" "old-fort" and so on, PvP apes will have their dumbass activity still, and normal majority of players can visit their cities with ease.

PS, Changing or introducing tc-windows won't change anything so far.

Interesting how the guy who hates PvP thinks he knows everything about it and how windows would affect it. 

I don't hate PvP, I hate the pvp apes attitude, I've been PvPing since obt2

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

More and more experienced players stopped playing fonline games, also a lot of them will do it in future. Only few pro uber skill pvp apes will stay with their strong teams  and they will always win with new players.

Thats one of biggest problem of any FOnline server - Veterans, expirienced players. If you ignore TC , strong gangs will stop playing or like other servers, they will go look for PvP in other places like for example in FO2 where devs totaly ingored team PvP and gangs and bigger grops moved to dungeons where loners and less expirienced players were playing own game and spoiled their fun. Dozens, dozens players left FOnline becouse of that.

Some gangs are forced to ignore TC when the enemy is 3x their number.

[Kilgore]

I rlly miss reno.

On 2238, there was nothing valuable in New Reno Commercial, no locker, no spawns, no anything. Yet there were actions there every evening. So, what's the problem? I guess this is:

Not many old, pvp thirsty players remaining, now people got different mindset which I call "show me the carrot or I'm not going out of my cave". Just check forum and see how many posts like "give me magic locker with my pixels, pvp is dead without it" are there. Just a bunch of spoiled crybabies that play for loot not for fun.

So. If you want PvP, you should gather your squad and start the timer.. or just get out from your cave and stand somewhere. If you want PvP, when the timer starts, you should go there to PvP. If it doesn't, then you should maybe look for PvP. If you don't and you are just waiting for imba lockers spawning shit somewhere because otherwise you aren't going to go anywhere, then just keep posting "i miss pvp" on forums.

TC window is just a restriction. You need restrictions for PvP? Sometimes, there are actions in TC towns lasting more than 20-30 minutes, or several fights there. Such things don't happen when TC windows are enabled, because after the town is taken, then well, try tomorrow.

For me, Town Control should give no status and no reward right after the "controlling" faction leaves the town. Because they are not in there, then how the fuck they are "guarding" anything. It's just afk reward. For sure, Town Control needs a big change for next session.

[Mad Matt]

+1 for changes, Im not doing TC but even for me it's quiet strange to get caps for defending town when your gang really don't do it. Just get Control over town late in the night. Maybe some kind of reward added only after guarded town for 15-20 mins ? I don't know, anyway the TC like now seems little broken and don't support pvp. Only laying hands on damn locker. At every cost.

[mkhammer]

Maybe ideas from AoP are good, maybe for example max exp for 30 min intense pvp should be 60-70k exp for the best players. Max reward in caps maybe 20k per hour for the highest score in PvP. It would not break balance even when one team would split for 2 and just fight each other, so any exploiting would be not worth.


Still I think large fights could take place in Sierra or other big places. Then cites could stay for more quests/ minievents. Only good reward system is needed. T4 or implants should not be included in it. That "carrot" must be not game breaking.

[Beer]

Problem of standing around in reno or some other town looking for PvP is that with low amount of players you would have to stand there for at least an hour before some people wishing to PvP will notice you because nobody has any reason to go there except to barter or join a caravan. Only player I saw while I was running around reno solo one day was 1 bluesuit buying a car in gas station(he got away) and after 30 minutes of nothing I got bored and went somewhere else. Problem with reno is it needs something like tc timer that tells people to go there if they want PvP. Because nobody wants to wait all the time for no guaranteed PvP so people are only doing tc now. Its not loot reward that makes people PvP its the fun reward.

[Napalm]

All factions should have the same right to capture towns and whenever they want. There are players from all over the world, some factions are active when some are sleeping and vice-versa. Go ahead new factions, try TC when imperialist factions are sleeping!

[Kaaon]

towns with TC windows always attracted much more pvp, i remember those times "tc 21-23 everyone!" because there was motivation that you will keep that town for at least one day

if point is to have pvp then i dont understand why there is any loot from those boxes, ofc everyone says that its not about loot but hey dont lie to yourselves, amount of caps spawning in TC boxes is pretty decent

its really demotivating when you win against some faction, you control all towns, you go sleep, you wake up and they have all towns, its nearly impossible to really keep control over towns this way, retaking all towns back takes 60-90 minutes which is alot of time and usually noone comes except at evening, standing 60-90 minutes in town is not my ideal vision of playing town control
its really demotivating that you sometimes win fight but enemy faction can take your town few hours later when you are offline and get more rewarded even through that they lose because they are weaker, makes no sense

if there would be for example 3 towns with different tc windows for different time zones and 3 which could be taken always, it would be fair for both sides
if town control is really about pvp then they can still have pvp anytime in those 3 towns while players which prefer to focus on towns with TC windows wouldnt be that much dissapointed because they can lose max 3 towns instead of 6

[Napalm]

Only 1 town with TC window, could be good. And randow town, not like before wipe.