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Factions => The Thunderdome => Topic started by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 07:16:26 am

Title: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 07:16:26 am
This is (obviously) not a troll post (contrary to what the reason of my original forum ban said). This is a post that contains the truth.

The best evidence of that is that it keeps getting deleted despite the fact that I post it in the right section of the forum & that it doesn't violate *any* of the forum rules.

I will repost it as many times as it takes for it to stay where it should be. You can delete it over and over, but the truth won't change. You can ban my forum accounts one by one, but that also won't change the truth.

Quote from: http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=4712.msg33672#msg33672
Stop making yourself an innocent

Both chars are your alts, you were exploting free exp on caravan runs.

You didnt lvlup MrSneaky and You get few lvls on Prof. Torr while doing same caravan.

MrSneaky is lvl 9 while in same time Prof. Torr get few lvls from caravan runs.

You were mostly abusing Cravans to SF but not only!

Each time when some player joined to Your caravan You jumped out on both chars !

You found out that using MrSneaky [lvl 9] allows You to avoid new encounters which were added on cravan trips to stop free afk exp [changelog 09/02/2014] thats why you were doing caravan runs with both chars on dual log to get easy exp on Prof. Torr

First of all, these chars are *not* both my alts; they were played by two different people sharing the same IP. Not that it would matter, because last I heard dual-logging, etc. is only banned from PvP, and I do not recall encountering any players during any of my caravan runs.

Now that we have that insignificant detail out of the way, let me address your other points.

You're saying that I completed numerous SF caravans with the level 9 char at my side. That is ludicrous. Every such caravan has 30+ encounters on the way to its target location, and every time you exit such an encounter with the caravan leader still alive, you are awarded 100 experience points.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to calculate that after ~3 runs, MrSneaky would've leveled up - it doesn't matter if he got the final XP reward or not, these small 100 XP rewards would've been enough.

Therefore, it is quite clear that you're greatly overestimating the magnitude of my alleged "exploiting," which was actually not exploiting but simply playing the game.

And yes, I do have the habit of leaving the caravan when another player joins it. That's because a high number of players means a high number of critters in each encounter. Even with only the two of us, we often found it challenging to stay alive while at the same time keeping the caravan master on his feet.

Also, no, there is no such thing as "easy" experience points when you're running from SF to another location. The number of encounters you face is very high, and includes mutants, bounty hunters, mercenaries, large swarms of floaters/centaurs, etc. Completing the run takes a good 20-30 minutes, and in roughly 15% of cases, you get thrown out of the caravan on one of the bugged squares near Boneyard which results in no XP/caps reward at all.

Quote from: http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=4712.msg33672#msg33672
To make things clear you are just another cheater which was catched!
You *really* want to believe that, don't you? But no, I'm not a cheater, I'm just a regular player that was stalked by a biased GM that was looking for an excuse to ban him.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Wormsign on February 24, 2014, 07:21:01 am
Your posts aren't being deleted, just moved to the toxic caves where they belong.

There is no doubt a way for GM to distinguish different comps on the same network. I find it unlikely you were singled out.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: mojuk on February 24, 2014, 07:31:15 am
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd20/bigdpizzle/Christ-Not-this-again.jpg)

Just wait your ban and continue to play without abuses or stop playing.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 07:36:05 am
Your posts aren't being deleted, just moved to the toxic caves where they belong.
ORLY?

Then why wasn't my original thread moved there (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=4712.0 (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=4712.0))?

Oh, that's right, because it belongs right here, same as this one!

There is no doubt a way for GM to distinguish different comps on the same network. I find it unlikely you were singled out.
We've been over this a thousand times already, and I'm not here to be your memory.

tl;dr: Yes, I was singled out & stalked & banned for something I didn't even know I did until after the ban. I got banned for playing together with a low-level player essentially.

Fun fact: Now that the GM made the exploit he thought I was deliberately abusing public, there are probably dozens of players using it (KNOWINGLY), but surprise surprise, no bans are being issued!

Just wait your ban and continue to play without abuses or stop playing.
I wasn't abusing anything, and I'm sure as hell not going to play on a server where I'd be watched 24/7 by a biased GM that's only waiting for a chance to ban me (and if the chance doesn't actually come, he can always make something up AGAIN).

Thanks for your input though lol.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 07:43:25 am
BTW, when the fact I'm gone sinks in, I'm sure the retard will find another player to stalk, and that player might be *you.*

How'd you like them apples?

Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Wormsign on February 24, 2014, 08:03:14 am
I know how IP addresses work. It's far from impossible to find internal IP.

If Docan wants to stalk me let him. He is only doing the task of a GM. Not being a weird creeper.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: mojuk on February 24, 2014, 08:04:16 am

I wasn't abusing anything, and I'm sure as hell not going to play on a server where I'd be watched 24/7 by a biased GM that's only waiting for a chance to ban me (and if the chance doesn't actually come, he can always make something up AGAIN).

Thanks for your input though lol.

No problem, always glad to help.
Bye bye then, don't let the door hit you on the way out!
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 08:09:09 am
I know how IP addresses work. It's far from impossible to find internal IP.
No, you don't know jackshit about the issue which you demonstrated in the previous thread.

But that has nothing to do with the matter this thread discusses, so piss off with it already.

Bye bye then, don't let the door hit you on the way out!
ROFL noob, I'm not going anywhere. I will be reposting this thread for quite a while longer (a week at least) unless it is finally allowed to stay where it belongs, which is right here.

Also, please pull the GM dick out of your mouth next time you're addressing me, thanks!
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Wormsign on February 24, 2014, 08:12:57 am
I know how IP addresses work. It's far from impossible to find internal IP.
No, you don't know jackshit about the issue which you demonstrated in the previous thread.

But that has nothing to do with the matter this thread discusses, so piss off.

Bye bye then, don't let the door hit you on the way out!
ROFL noob, I'm not going anywhere. I will be reposting this thread for quite a while longer (a week at least) unless it is finally allowed to stay where it belongs, which is right here.

Also, please pull the GM dick out of your mouth next time you're addressing me, thanks!

You're right, I'm no IT guy. But I know the internet reads the external IP from the router. I also know internal IP can be found easily. Besides IPs, do you not think this game and others have way to distinguish different computers on the same network. Please..

The more you post, the deeper hole you dig for yourself. Nobody in Fonline will miss you when your perma ban comes.

You tell us nothing in support of your cause other than half explained hearsay..
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 08:19:22 am
I DON'T KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT ANYTHING AND HERE COMES THE PROOF
No proof necessary, I believe you.

Please, next time you're replying to *any* thread posted by *anyone,* take the time to read through it first, and if it's a continuation of another thread that got locked, also read that other thread.

Together, we can make this forum a better place!

Oh, I almost forgot: make sure you not only read through the thread(s), but also comprehend everything you read!

Thanks!
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Wormsign on February 24, 2014, 08:25:18 am
I've read every thing you've posted including the shit moved to Toxic Wastes. I'm not a moron bro. I don't need you to tell me to go read your previous posts, which are all identical to your other previous posts. I'll say it again. There are ways to detect different comps on the same network. Obviously you were caught exploiting caravan. How could you exploit? Dual logging. They caught you. When you post some techie info about how they can't distinguish different comps on same network, maybe I will re consider your story. Until than.. just stop. Also tell your bro or whoever to make an account because I find the alleged second persons lack of input telling. Whether he cares about his account or not.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 08:37:16 am
. There are ways to detect different comps on the same network. Obviously you were caught exploiting caravan. How could you exploit? Dual logging. They caught you. When you post some techie info about how they can't distinguish different comps on same network, maybe I will re consider your story. Until than.. just stop. Also tell your bro or whoever to make an account because I find the alleged second persons lack of input telling. Whether he cares about his account or not.
You're even dimmer than I thought. Let me repeat myself for the 99999th time then.

In your *opinion* dual-logging had something to do with the issue. In reality, it did NOT. But let's assume it DID because you seem to find it impossible to let go of this ridiculous notion.

I know for a FACT that two different PCs & two different people were involved, because I was THERE. If there is PROOF to be provided that I'm lying, the burden of it is on the accuser, not on the defendant.

Note for the dim-witted: I'm not the one making the accusations and therefore the burden of proof is not on me.

I don't see any GMs providing any proof I was dual-logging on the same PC. Why? Because it's impossible to have such proof where none can exist. BUT ALSO because the fact I didn't dual-log on the same PC (or that I did, if I'm lying about it) has NOTHING to do with the issue and dual-logging (or lack thereof) is NOT why I was banned.

Consider the following: What if I indeed used 2 PCs, but there was only 1 person (me)? Would that change anything? Would that make me innocent (which I am btw, I didn't knowingly exploit anything). Obviously fucking NOT, so nobody cares except for one ridiculous moron, and that moron is YOU.

Sheesh.

I got BANNED for being in the same caravan as another player that HAPPENED TO BE LOW-LEVEL on a number of occasions. Why on a number of occasions? Because we were playing TOGETHER. Yes, PLAYING - NOT EXPLOITING.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Wormsign on February 24, 2014, 08:42:36 am
I assumed you dual logged because in the previous post Docan said you were one and the same person, and how else could you have been banned for exploiting caravan with two chars. Therefore it has everything to do with the issue. Whether your ban was right or wrong, the way you are going around talking about it is the wrong method. Next time I suggest a PM to Docan and Kilgore with polite speech and inquiry.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 08:44:22 am
I assumed you dual logged because in the previous post Docan said you were one and the same person, and how else could you have been banned for exploiting caravan with two chars. Therefore it has everything to do with the issue. Whether your ban was right or wrong, the way you are going around talking about it is the wrong method. Next time I suggest a PM to Docan and Kilgore with polite speech and inquiry.
You're even dimmer than I thought. Let me repeat myself for the 99999th time then.

In your *opinion* dual-logging had something to do with the issue. In reality, it did NOT. But let's assume it DID because you seem to find it impossible to let go of this ridiculous notion.

I know for a FACT that two different PCs & two different people were involved, because I was THERE. If there is PROOF to be provided that I'm lying, the burden of it is on the accuser, not on the defendant.

Note for the dim-witted: I'm not the one making the accusations and therefore the burden of proof is not on me.

I don't see any GMs providing any proof I was dual-logging on the same PC. Why? Because it's impossible to have such proof where none can exist. BUT ALSO because the fact I didn't dual-log on the same PC (or that I did, if I'm lying about it) has NOTHING to do with the issue and dual-logging (or lack thereof) is NOT why I was banned.

Consider the following: What if I indeed used 2 PCs, but there was only 1 person (me)? Would that change anything? Would that make me innocent (which I am btw, I didn't knowingly exploit anything). Obviously fucking NOT, so nobody cares except for one ridiculous moron, and that moron is YOU.

Sheesh.

I got BANNED for being in the same caravan as another player that HAPPENED TO BE LOW-LEVEL on a number of occasions. Why on a number of occasions? Because we were playing TOGETHER. Yes, PLAYING - NOT EXPLOITING.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Wormsign on February 24, 2014, 08:50:58 am
Lol the way you insult the intelligence of people.. funny shit.

What is more likely? A GM catches and bans a cheater or a GM that has some random vendetta against you and your friend?

I would think your friend would care enough to make an account to help clear your name.

GM doesn't need to provide proof to the community. One reason I suggested a polite PM.

I'm not dim witted. Dual logging has everything to do with how you exploited the caravan.
In case you forgot (you dimwhit hahahaha), Docan also said in one of your sad sack threads you are alts.

Please provide more proof that two people are involved here.

Btw thanks for all these laughs.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 08:54:40 am
What is more likely? A GM catches and bans a cheater or a GM that has some random vendetta against you
Which of the two is more likely is irrelevant. All that matters is the truth of what happened.

I'm not dim witted. Dual logging has everything to do with how you exploited the caravan.
In case you forgot (you dimwhit hahahaha), Docan also said in one of your sad sack threads you are alts.

Please provide more proof that two people are involved here.
You're even dimmer than I thought. Let me repeat myself for the 99999th time then.

In your *opinion* dual-logging had something to do with the issue. In reality, it did NOT. But let's assume it DID because you seem to find it impossible to let go of this ridiculous notion.

And yes, DocAN mentioned his opinion that the 2 chars were controlled by one person, but that was never his focus, just a sidenote of no significance. Ask him if you'd like, and he'll tell you.

And now, let me explain something to you.

I know for a FACT that two different PCs & two different people were involved, because I was THERE. If there is PROOF to be provided that I'm lying, the burden of it is on the accuser, not on the defendant.

Note for the dim-witted: I'm not the one making the accusations and therefore the burden of proof is not on me.

I don't see any GMs providing any proof I was dual-logging on the same PC. Why? Because it's impossible to have such proof where none can exist. BUT ALSO because the fact I didn't dual-log on the same PC (or that I did, if I'm lying about it) has NOTHING to do with the issue and dual-logging (or lack thereof) is NOT why I was banned.

Consider the following: What if I indeed used 2 PCs, but there was only 1 person (me)? Would that change anything? Would that make me innocent (which I am btw, I didn't knowingly exploit anything). Obviously fucking NOT, so nobody cares except for one ridiculous moron, and that moron is YOU.

Sheesh.

I got BANNED for being in the same caravan as another player that HAPPENED TO BE LOW-LEVEL on a number of occasions. Why on a number of occasions? Because we were playing TOGETHER. Yes, PLAYING - NOT EXPLOITING.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Wormsign on February 24, 2014, 08:58:14 am
Cool, your last three posts were identical. Great defense. I think we are done here.

GM testimony vs your testimony. I'm satisfied with the results.

If you were accused of murder I bet you would provide proof in your defense. Like an alibi (*cough* the alleged second person)

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Repent your sins or spend eternity in hellfire, my son.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 09:02:37 am
Cool, your last three posts were identical. Great defense. I think we are done here.

GM testimony vs your testimony. I'm satisfied with the results.

If you were accused of murder I bet you would provide proof in your defense. Like an alibi (*cough* the alleged second person)
*I* am acting like a parrot? You've been repeating the same retarded nonsense (that dual-logging had something to do with the issue) for 2 threads now, and I kept trying to get you to get it through your thick skull that the retarded nonsense you were repeating was just that - retarded nonsense.

I'm glad I finally managed to do that.

For those that *still* don't understand why I was banned, here goes:

I got BANNED for being in the same caravan as another player that HAPPENED TO BE LOW-LEVEL on a number of occasions. That's it.

Why did it happen on a number of occasions with the same player? Because we were playing TOGETHER. Yes, PLAYING - NOT EXPLOITING.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Wormsign on February 24, 2014, 09:04:46 am
I haven't seen tears this juicy since BrandoSS.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 09:11:10 am
I haven't seen tears this juicy since BrandoSS.
Yes, keep looking in that mirror and see what you did to yourself.
You should've walked away the first time I told you that your retarded theory about dual-logging having something to do with my ban was completely invalid, and you would've spared yourself all the embarrassment.

For those who still don't know why I was banned:

I got BANNED for being in the same caravan as another player that HAPPENED TO BE LOW-LEVEL on a number of occasions. Why on a number of occasions? Because we were playing TOGETHER. Yes, PLAYING - NOT EXPLOITING.

Why me? Surely there are more players running caravans with low-level friends! Well, it was me because one of the GMs seems to have a personal grudge against me. Oh, well. It wasn't the first time, and I bet it won't be the last either.

Good luck keeping the server populated with GMs like that goofing around.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Perteks on February 24, 2014, 09:21:40 am
nobody cares, just get the fuck out and all of server will be grateful of that :D
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Chosen One on February 24, 2014, 09:22:13 am
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd20/bigdpizzle/Christ-Not-this-again.jpg)
No shit...
Scream about it all you want, he's NOT gonna lift the ban.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 09:26:05 am
No shit...
Scream about it all you want, he's NOT gonna lift the ban.
I don't want the ban lifted. What would that accomplish? Allowing me to come back to the game where I would still be stalked 24/7 by some retard that happened to be granted with more power than he can handle? Thanks, but I'll pass.

I wouldn't mind getting apologies though.

And no, I can't "scream about it all I want" because the threads keep getting deleted... and THAT is the real issue here. I just want my right to present my perspective on what happened to be respected, nothing more.
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 09:33:19 am
Bump!
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: triqua on February 24, 2014, 09:39:28 am
get over it, its not like you've been perma baned
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: The Account on February 24, 2014, 09:41:19 am
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Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: TheWastes on February 24, 2014, 09:52:11 am
get over it, its not like you've been perma baned
It's not about the length of the ban, or whether I agree with it or not.

It's about the GM that issued the ban denying me the right to present my version of the events. Why is he doing that? Obviously because by now he surely realized that he made a mistake and so - in order to perpetuate his image as an infallible Jesus-like figure - he has to suppress my freedom of speech.

But guess what, that's not going to work. It never does in the long run btw, but don't even try to get me started on this one!
Title: Re: "Exploiting a bug?" Nope!
Post by: Kilgore on February 24, 2014, 09:52:32 am
If you don't stop spamming forum with new forum alts and threads, then you can be sure that I'll change those character bans to permanent. Wait until ban is over and next time do not exploit things, but report them.