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Development => Suggestions => Closed suggestions => Topic started by: Gargantua on July 12, 2016, 06:48:41 pm

Title: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Gargantua on July 12, 2016, 06:48:41 pm
Add some additional NPCs / Strength to Caravans. 

Then make them either have a "chance to" or just outright show up as a Flare RT encounter on WM. 

If you wish to keep Caravans noob friendly, then keep the short distance caravans just as they are, but make the long caravans larger in party size and PVP optimized!


This will add a whole new element of PVP/Fun to the server.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Seki on July 12, 2016, 07:06:13 pm
yeah it seems that many people like idea of raiding caravans and it should be implemented in some form which wouldnt hurt newbies or players which want to do caravans safely like now
i just had very similar idea yesterday..
adding new caravan which would go through SF and northren towns, have increased rewards (double exp and caps for finishing for example) but all of its encounters would be visible from worldmap allowing other players to raid it
simple, risky but rewarding, adding possibility to raid caravan and players which dont want to get raided could still do old (current) caravans safely  :)
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Awgy on July 12, 2016, 07:10:26 pm
Yeah big plus for it. This way small PvP would grow, and no charm done to newbies in process.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: emrebnk on July 12, 2016, 07:47:14 pm
+1, it's almost impossible to catch up with a caravan for raiding it, this would make a fun pvp event
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Hungry Hungry Shark on July 12, 2016, 07:57:55 pm
+1 good pvpve content
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: jarok on July 12, 2016, 09:13:21 pm
Seki +1.

As additional caravan for pvp players it would be good but also I will change overhaul caravan runs. I will split it both PvE (+ newbie) and PvP. I will add more random stuff to make caravan runs less boring and much more unique. Random should be things like: guards stats, ammount of guards, weapons, more random encounters with enemies, it should depends on cities tracks.

I was thinking about sth like that might work very well, of course any numbers were picked randomly but it can be changed as well.

In short expand caravans to 2 levels (previously I was thinking about 3 or even more but 2 should be enough at the moment).


I. PvE caravans

Variant A - same as we already have in-game, cab be soloable, can be made with players. Add some random.
Variant B - high tech weaponry, much more harder, require at least 2 or 3 players, level requiremenets, example 50. Add random samilar to that from PvP caravans.

II. PvP caravans

Actually I am thinking about PvP caravans as only for PvP groups which means to take a caravan course you need players because there wont be any NPC guards helping you (except Caravan Master). You can take solo caravan run but there will be only 2 guards - you and Caravan Master. Even going deeper: you can be caravan master, you get a destination map which show you over the worldmap dots/caravan spots which you have to follow. That means all guards are players, no npcs.

However for some reason if there should be npcs, make them a little harder than these which we already have in-game.


Variant A - regular weaponry:

1) Caravan Master:
   - Base HP: from 350 to 450 (random, +25 HP)
   - Toughness: a little stronger than "PvE caravan master"
   - Weapons: Plasma Rifle


2) Guards:
   - Base HP: from 150 to 250 (random, +25 HP)
   - Toughness: a little stronger than "PvE caravan guards"
   - Numbers: from 3 to 8 (random, for a single player), if there is more players than guards removed same as in PvE
   - Weapons:
      223 Pistol, P90, Plasma Pistol (+ exp),
      Pancor, H&K Caws, XL, Sniper Rifle,
      Laser Rifle, Laster Rifle (+ exp),
      Bazooka, Minigun, LSW


Variant B - high tech weaponry, much more harder:

1) Caravan Master:
   - Base HP: from 450 to 550 (random, +25 HP)
   - Toughness: strong
   - Weapons:
      Plasma Rifle random bonuses (improved, advanced, superior, unique),
      Gauss Rifle,
      Pulse Rifle,
      Vindicator,
      Bozar


2) Guards:
   - Base HP: from 200 to 300 (random, +25 HP)
   - Toughness: stronger than variant A
   - Numbers: from 2 to 5 (random, for a single player), if there is more players than guards removed same as in PvE
   - Weapons: 
      XL, Sniper Rifle - random bonuses (improved, advanced, superior, unique),
      Laster Rifle (+ exp) - random bonuses as above,
      Avenger Minigun, LSW - random bonuses as above,
      Gauss Pistol, Pulse Pistol,
      Gauss Rifle


Some ideas for diffrent sets for caravans.
(http://images.tinypic.pl/i/00803/6z7wzaxiei9d.jpg)

(http://pics.tinypic.pl/i/00803/h9najlbqeu0n.jpg)


That was a fast examples of ideas which I would like to expand ;)
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: yungchance on July 13, 2016, 04:08:16 pm
Maybe make loot drop if you successfully raid the caravan.  Could even make it a faction controlled thing.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: elemenope on July 13, 2016, 06:55:19 pm
Maybe make loot drop if you successfully raid the caravan.  Could even make it a faction controlled thing.
i like the sound of that, let us actually raid the carvan wagon. and who knows maybe a sneak is watching the whole thing and he's calling some friends, could lead to some interesting situations.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Blazikengamer on July 14, 2016, 02:52:52 pm
They could also drop some armor.
+1
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Gargantua on July 14, 2016, 04:08:17 pm
I'm imagining full car spawns and big / multiple groups.

Fast smash and grab situations with mixed PVE PVP elements on much larger scales.  Caravan defense will also be huge!
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: worldremaker on July 16, 2016, 09:16:01 am
You can do exactly the same in TC. But wait... It will be real time play mode, no bluesuits inside and experienced PvP players only.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Mad Matt on July 16, 2016, 09:24:44 am
Well, those caravans are are in RT and there would be no bluesuits, there would be mix of PvE and PvP, plus ambushes different environment etc....so no, it's not even close to TC
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: worldremaker on July 16, 2016, 09:30:44 am
Did you was on TC? I guess not or you was but under Napalm, Bison, Despen or other nontactic guy. If you even will have chance to do it with someone else check the usual team positions and car spwans there. Enjoy the game before you write something.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: SVEN on July 16, 2016, 02:16:53 pm
Yeah because the benefits of bringing cars to TC are so great.  :facepalm
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: worldremaker on July 16, 2016, 05:17:33 pm
And here will be different, right? :D
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Einherjar on July 16, 2016, 05:20:43 pm
And here will be different, right? :D

Clearly you have no idea what's going on. Stop embarrassing yourself and call it a day.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Mad Matt on July 17, 2016, 09:14:56 am
Yes, I was playing and I think it's not important who was a leader.
Car are used rarely, bluesuits are more common than cars in TC (guys like lash and noobs)

No, there's no mix of pve and pvp at once, you kill militia at first and than fight players.
Another think you are playing on caravans on random maps, not like in TC when you have time to prepare your tactics cause opponents team is camping in one place.
Maybe I wasnt playing under great leaders in your opinion, but at least Im not blind and I clearly see damn differences.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Slowhand on July 17, 2016, 11:29:31 am
Good idea, but take it further: every gun fired without a silencer, puts a dot on the map, that can be seen in the surrounding hexes for some of time. Would make the unused small guns usefull with silencer attachment, maybe melee weapons too. Probably easier to implement than the caravans...
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: jarok on July 18, 2016, 04:06:02 pm
Good idea, but take it further: every gun fired without a silencer, puts a dot on the map, that can be seen in the surrounding hexes for some of time. Would make the unused small guns usefull with silencer attachment, maybe melee weapons too. Probably easier to implement than the caravans...

Realistic and might works but ihmo too annoying for casuals and non-PvP players. I know, know, know this is mmo but we all know most of people scary seeing others in the wasteland. But silencer as additional component for weapons is +1.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: Slowhand on July 18, 2016, 09:53:34 pm
Realistic and might works but ihmo too annoying for casuals and non-PvP players. I know, know, know this is mmo but we all know most of people scary seeing others in the wasteland. But silencer as additional component for weapons is +1.

Well, yeah, even if you use silencer or melee weapons, the mobs might give out your position... however, another fun factor could be, that randomly that could also trigger other NPC's to arrive, other raiders, or if you are near a town with a faction, a patrol stumbles into you and helps/kills you.

This game needs factions/alignment, as killing a player in a friendly/starter zone, should have server consequences, and safe towns are available for peacefull people and ofc newbies. Only PVP towns and vendors would be available for player killers (outlaws).

Game shall depend on alts less, like crafting shall give no XP and to raise crafting skills, an amount of crafts shall be done instead of spend skillpoints on specific skills.
Title: Re: Make Caravan encounters show up like flares on WM
Post by: elemenope on July 19, 2016, 08:18:34 am
i like your ideas slowhand, just doesn't seem to be the direction ppl wanna take this game  :'(