FOnline: Reloaded
Development => Suggestions => Closed suggestions => Topic started by: Urukhai on April 22, 2015, 10:57:31 am
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Hello guys!
As you can see, the work is still in progress, we are all waiting for wipe. Something huge and extremly intersting is preparing but there are some issues that can't be solved now. Or it would have had wipe months ago. Anyway we are not wasting our time and if you like playing this game so here is the poll.
Seriously what do we have to lose ? We are already all filled with implants and stuff and doing TC or hunting lockers is no longer worth. People are not even gathering shit to have some fun.
For those who are relatively new to the game it won't be a big loss because everyone will restart from zero, restart quests and even ask experienced players for help, and those will be available and not somewhere on the world map waiting for pvp. All changelogs will be saved all weapons kept as they are, you just have to restart from zero. If we are many to vote yes, admins can reset it. After all WE are playing this game and we want to have fun !
LEAVE A FEEDBACK please.
READ CAREFULLY KILGORE'S MESSAGE BELOW, BEFORE YOU POST ANYTHING! THANK YOU.
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At first I was strongly against the idea, but now I somehow approve it.
Our current status is: work in progress (just ask Corosive who added more than 100 new dialogue files in recent months, improved a lot of old ones and is still working like a beast), a lot of things already added, a lot of things in progress, some things not done yet. The biggest issue we are facing since long time is kinda unstable new engine revisions, so we can't just make full update because new client has still some major bugs that need to be fixed before starting new session.
How long can it take? No idea, because it doesn't depend on us, it can still take several months.
We COULD make full server reset (basically a wipe) but I understand that without any update it would not be awesome. I'm pretty sure we can include an update - several new features (hex shooting or shared experience for PvE, for example), many interface improvements (new binds useful for PvP, or roof/wall on/off switch), few drug managements features, in-game reroll feature and more, maybe a beta-version of new/old pvp mode as well. That would of course come with the removal of all characters and world save which means all players would have a fresh start again.
From my point of view, those who still play the game are:
- old players who will play anyway and would surely use some new features,
- new players who would surely use a fresh start,
so assumption that "most will leave" looks kinda invalid.
AND it wouldn't change nothing about coming wipe (full update), which will happen anyway when we're ready.
However, it is you who play the game, not me, so you should help us decide - here.
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Can you publish a full list of possible changes to the pre-wipe ?
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resetting now would seem like wiping for no good reason. Generally you want to avoid destroying player's effort put into the game without a justified cause (major game/play/rule change).
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resetting now would seem like wiping for no good reason. Generally you want to avoid destroying player's effort put into the game without a justified cause (major game/play/rule change).
I can understand this reaction if you are really new to this game.
If you were as old as the majority of players, you would understand that people have had enough with this stuff grindfest in bases etc. The reason of playing this game is to have fun. I can play Fallout 2 if I want to play alone and this session cannot be wiped for the reason explained above.
The restart will refresh minds and Ideas. Everyone will be equal. And the game will be alive. More trades among players, more interaction with PvE world. More time for people to play instead of asking when it gonna wipe. More time for DEVs for preparing the post-wipe session.
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Im not sure Kilgore has a choice- a couple weeks ago I was in Redding mines when I saw a slave walking around. Unattended.
What's happening is maps are ghosting over, so you cant be sure what your seeing is real. A reset/wipe would be the only way to fix that.
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I would like to see the wipe in its full glory and i think a prewipe would simply make the real wipe take more time and distract the devs from working on it. but if there is an early wipe with only some of the updates it would need to have good pvp balance updates such as the new suggested crit table along with weapon changes like turboplasma being more rare and gecko breath balance, also make implants more rare and no longer being purchasable. I have also heard that if/after crit table is accepted there are also some other ideas about suggestions in changing weapon damage variance or some other pvp ideas. A wipe with no balance updates like this or even content updates like new dungeons for pve players and only superficial changes like a button to turn off roofs(though very nice and convenient) is nothing more than restarting server so that people can grind all of their loot back again and play the same thing over again from the start.
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If you want to wipe just for wipe im against it.
If you want to wipe to include perks changes and changes for pvp overall that cannot be done without a wipe then i am strongly for it.
But please wait a bit until we can agree on a crit table change first, a weapon rebalance change, and perks change. If we can come up to an overall pvp improvment then a wipe to implement those changes then yes it will be far better.
Restarting with the same current pvp balance ...
There is a lot of things that need to be done before a wipe that could really benefit pvp:
- Minor changes in how drugs work (Posted soon)
- Crit table ( currently in discution)
- Various changes in perks (posted soon)
- Implants change ( posted soon)
- Total weapon rebalance (posted soon)
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Beer opposes it.
Proof positive that Urukhai is right.
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:-X
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I think you didn't read or understand what I've posted. I wrote clearly what can be done for now.
Gecko ammo, TPR spawn, implants spawn can be fixed easily but other things like perk rebalance.. well, do not expect me to develop two separate servers (some pre-wipe server and our current post-wipe work). I hope you do understand that if we make a significant change in PvP, more changes will have to follow because of balancing.
There is a lot of things that need to be done before a wipe that could really benefit pvp:
- Minor changes in how drugs work (Posted soon)
- Crit table ( currently in discution)
- Various changes in perks (posted soon)
- Implants change ( posted soon)
- Total weapon rebalance (posted soon)
Dunno what do you mean about "posted soon", but we've got already plans since long time what to change in perks, implants etc. so I can already say there is no need to post same things every month.
From what's posted I can already see that it's maybe better to leave things at current state, but mostly because of players attitude.
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No. Let's wait until the bugs are fixed.
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There is something to be said for that, ghosts or no ghosts.
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I do say it would be not a bad idea to restart the server. I'm not against it! While on the other hand i literaly have ZERO time to play, so it's not like my vote count anything at all.
I do wish to have atleast more oportunity to watch people dicking around in the game. :D To see them strugle in the mines and rebuilding everything! :P
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I don't see any point in doing a wipe if there will be almost no changes. Especially if you consider that we waited for it for so long...
I prefer to wait a little longer and have a full-wipe with all of the planned changes. Otherwise the server will get empty again rather quickly
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I don't see any point in doing a wipe if there will be almost no changes. Especially if you consider that we waited for it for so long...
I prefer to wait a little longer and have a full-wipe with all of the planned changes. Otherwise the server will get empty again rather quickly
If you know how long will last this "little longer" and how fast will be the engine fixed, than give us the date so we can wait all together.
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this is so idiotic my fucking god. just wait for the wipe what is wrong with you people? i feel so sorry for kilgore.all you do is make 500 posts telling him to do these things. deffinite -1 to it. just have patience people. it will come. we all want it this post is useless. kilgore wont do this. come on now we been waiting for wipe one year. you think hell just restart then do another update month or two later?
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I dont care if there would be wipe with changes or not. We need it fastly.
If u dont playing Reloaded now and comment how it is - please, try it now and then comment.
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what engine bugs need to be fixed in order to wipe already? why is this so neccessary?
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Because you don't want unstable server, unstable client, half things not working and random crashes all the time.
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I think you didn't read or understand what I've posted. I wrote clearly what can be done for now.
Gecko ammo, TPR spawn, implants spawn can be fixed easily but other things like perk rebalance.. well, do not expect me to develop two separate servers (some pre-wipe server and our current post-wipe work). I hope you do understand that if we make a significant change in PvP, more changes will have to follow because of balancing.
There is a lot of things that need to be done before a wipe that could really benefit pvp:
- Minor changes in how drugs work (Posted soon)
- Crit table ( currently in discution)
- Various changes in perks (posted soon)
- Implants change ( posted soon)
- Total weapon rebalance (posted soon)
Dunno what do you mean about "posted soon", but we've got already plans since long time what to change in perks, implants etc. so I can already say there is no need to post same things every month.
From what's posted I can already see that it's maybe better to leave things at current state, but mostly because of players attitude.
Yes I understand, which is why I think an early wipe is a bad idea because wipe with no PvP balance updates isn't worth it.
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Yup, I'm on it...better wait even 6 months, than do some small moron wipe and wait for the main dish next year. Guys, give them some time...we were waiting enough to not cry about few months. Such a quick wipe will make more people play only for week or two, after which server will return to what we have now...or even more out numbered cause nobody wants to gather the same things again and make again the same build. Give Kilgore and rest more time, I swear it will be very profitable for you...
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Well, PvP balance was totally different without implanted characters and without top tier (HPA, PA, bozars, -AP TPR, gauss guns and such).
Matt: read my post again. I clearly stated that this "reset" would have absolutely no impact on the actual wipe/full update date.
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In that case if wipe means there will be no more implants at all im up for it.
Remove them completly until you find better solution.
I voted yes a great YES.
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Kilgore, sorry...it wasn't there when I was writing my post :facepalm
Anyway, as for me it's kinda sux to start once again the same things...so my vote is more for NOPE.
Let's the majority decide about our future, and if you say it's not have any impact on Wipe so....good, another problem solved/less :D
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At first I wasn't quite sure if I like this idea or not. You know, I have many characters, some fully implanted, a lot of top gear and don't play as much as I used to - just log in, dress up and go for action! Also, waiting for engine major changes so long, I almost got used to it. But the server indeed is in poor condition. You can say whatever you want, but I still play it and see what's going on everyday - and like it less everyday. So (minding real wipe is not coming "soon") if I can get at least some things fixed I'm up for it. And fresh start is always fun. Double benefit.
And for the people that "are waiting for wipe" and do not play at all, still saying it's a bad idea... shame on you.
P.S. Seeing UV fall short will be worth it itself. ;D
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+1
Reset this server and we will back.
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And for the people that "are waiting for wipe" and do not play at all, still saying it's a bad idea... shame on you.
Yep, this is something I don't understand :P if they don't play anyway, then why would they care?
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Because you don't want unstable server, unstable client, half things not working and random crashes all the time.
You've said that before this wipe you will release changelog and do a test session, maybe it's time for that. Since you're waiting on updated revisions of the server and client, and have no indication of when that will happen, at least make use of our nolife and let us test new features, find bugs, and give feedback - of course this is assuming the test server is semi-playable (none of us have any indication on any of this).
However if you DO feel it's better to leave things as they are due to player attitude, all I personally ask is that you remember we don't all share that same attitude.
I've been patiently waiting for that test session a long time, and I know many, many others have as well. So I suppose if you're looking for our thoughts, the above is mine.
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I'd rather wait for wipe
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I'm not a person that likes the extra and mandatory grind after a wipe. Unless ofcourse you are having fun. This fun usually comes with the new features. Which makes everything with lil pink elephants and long rainbows.
I do like the idea of a wipe however. So remove the grind after a wipe and give it a clean reset and the server will be in a calm and new feeling state. So I'm not for yes or for no since I don't play often at all. So if I was to give some advice I would say do it, however add such bonuses like:
Shops spawn 3x more caps than usuall.
Remove cap requirement on private mines.
Make exp rate 3x more. (I'm pretty sure that's easy to do).
Buff worldmap speed by 50%
And ofcourse add changes so people can test and find bugs in.
Sorry if this counted as offtopic Urukhai. Just gave a quick suggestion in ur thread if you don't mind.
Cheers! xD
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I am for a full wipe on completion of work.
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Voted for the reset, I have just no interest to play right now as everything will be the same as ever.
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Leave things alone, unless we have an update to go with the reset.
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Leave things alone, unless we have an update to go with the reset.
Read carefully what Kilgore has written...
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Ohhhhhh.. My bad, I just noticed. Yeah, reset sounds nice.
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Server reset should come with a package of various updates and since they are not rolling out continously because of the dev team working on entire new session, in my opinion server reset at the moment is pointless - just to grind again for 3-6 months and then proper wipe and new, updated session.
So no.
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Well TECHNICALLY, the reset/update would be Reloaded 2.0... Second session sounds nice ;D Then when the wipe comes out, 3.0. Sounds fine to me.
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Server reset should come with a package of various updates and since they are not rolling out continously because of the dev team working on entire new session, in my opinion server reset at the moment is pointless - just to grind again for 3-6 months and then proper wipe and new, updated session.
So no.
Guys please... Do I have to make you read Kilgore's post every time YOU ask about updates coming with the RESET ?
Read his first message pl0x...
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Server reset should come with a package of various updates and since they are not rolling out continously because of the dev team working on entire new session, in my opinion server reset at the moment is pointless - just to grind again for 3-6 months and then proper wipe and new, updated session.
So no.
Guys please... Do I have to make you read Kilgore's post every time YOU ask about updates coming with the RESET ?
Read his first message pl0x...
I read his post and personaly I want to wait for complete new session will all new updates at once. I do not need the couple of small updates today, simple. I just do not like half measures personally, I have no problem with waiting, game is still fun for me even with all the bugs, unabalanced stuff and other.
If people will vote towards a server reset then Im also fine with it, dont care that much about the voting results.
Just posting my personal opinion against reset if I can.
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Think about it in another way, wiping and making implants disapear or very rare will make everybody at the same level.
Sure buyable implants balanced things up a bit but still it cost money, everithing related to grinding isnt very appealing etc.. With a wipe at level 24 you rdy to rumble and try pvp right now with friends and get into it for real try tc etc..
Its very good for new and old players. Some fresh air in the game.
Not talking about self fa/doc hotkeys, removable roofs customisables in option, very rares turbo/implants and maybe more...
Keep voting people.
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I already said once that when I was writing my post there was no Kilgore's one...I said sorry once for that and should be enough...if you read so carefuly than you should notice that dear Urukhai...
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Better question is, what do people expect to be changed if the server just resets instead of the wipe that would bring some patches/fixes/new stuff or whatever is planned.
What will change? People already formed gangs, they'll just form them again most likely with the same people. People know how to easily get stuff in this version, a reset wouldn't change anything on that one - so people would easily get farmed once again.
If this reset passes, it's just another reset before the wipe comes. This reset won't last as long as this session did. It'll be just till the wipe.
Votes like this are silly without comments, it could be a bunch of a newcomers just seeing the vote and voting for restart just for sake of them getting some "chance", which they wouldn't really use as older players would just overpower the newbies eventually.
I mean hey, I haven't played for like sixth month now, but surely things couldn't have changed that much, since my last visit.
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We COULD make full server reset (basically a wipe) but I understand that without any update it would not be awesome. I'm pretty sure we can include an update - several new features (hex shooting or shared experience for PvE, for example), many interface improvements (new binds useful for PvP, or roof/wall on/off switch), few drug managements features, in-game reroll feature and more, maybe a beta-version of new/old pvp mode as well. That would of course come with the removal of all characters and world save which means all players would have a fresh start again.
AND it wouldn't change nothing about coming wipe (full update), which will happen anyway when we're ready.
Better question is, what do people expect to be changed if the server just resets instead of the wipe that would bring some patches/fixes/new stuff or whatever is planned.
What will change? People already formed gangs, they'll just form them again most likely with the same people. People know how to easily get stuff in this version, a reset wouldn't change anything on that one - so people would easily get farmed once again.
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It will be hilarious to watch what people say that think wipe with few more buttons in the options menu and hex shooting will fix everything but the game will be the exact same as now with only UV playing. How can implants make things unfair when literally everyone has them? I know maybe 1 or two people at most without any full implanted character and they rarely play more than 5 minutes at a time. The only thing this will fix is gecko and tpr. Just wait for real wipe and save Kilgore the effort.
Better question is, what do people expect to be changed if the server just resets instead of the wipe that would bring some patches/fixes/new stuff or whatever is planned.
What will change? People already formed gangs, they'll just form them again most likely with the same people. People know how to easily get stuff in this version, a reset wouldn't change anything on that one - so people would easily get farmed once again.
If this reset passes, it's just another reset before the wipe comes. This reset won't last as long as this session did. It'll be just till the wipe.
Votes like this are silly without comments, it could be a bunch of a newcomers just seeing the vote and voting for restart just for sake of them getting some "chance", which they wouldn't really use as older players would just overpower the newbies eventually.
I mean hey, I haven't played for like sixth month now, but surely things couldn't have changed that much, since my last visit.
This exactly
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This ^ is why I suggested opening up the test server. We have very little information available to us to make informed opinions, so all most of us can do is speculate.
It's been done before, and it would allow those of us bored with current session to be productive and involved with update other than making maps or silly suggestions.
Normal Reloaded server could continue without interruption, and we can continue waiting for new client and server revisions to be released that would make full update possible.
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I think it's the high time to restart the server. Few fixes like implants limit, no burst and sneak combo or fire gecko shells should be enough to bring Reloaded to life.
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Opening up the test server is not possible until we get stable version.
It's not even about testing new things which would appear, because they have been already well tested. It's about refreshing the state of the server which currently suffers from old bugs/balance issues which were fixed long ago (like enormous amounts of caps from banks), a large flow of top tier stuff which started with NR/Warehouse lockers, and new issues like -AP TPRs, gecko ammo, fully implanted tanks and other things. Remember that I wanted to wipe the game almost one year ago, but was unable to do it, nobody planned this session taking so long. I'm pretty sure that server reset would be a good temporary solution to fix many problems until the real next session.
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So the question now should be only one...
When?
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Hey, thanks for wasting the last few days of my life.
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Oh no it's too sucks that, why reset? I just created my faction and you do a reset is not cool.
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Oh no it's too sucks that, why reset? I just created my faction and you do a reset is not cool.
My friends and I JUST started playing... What a waste of my time.
You guys should enjoy the game and not grind it! I am pretty sure the restart with everyone at the same time will be more intersting. You will be involved not only in PvE but also in PvP, thinking about HOW to survive longer, every beggining of the session is hard for everyone.
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Oh no it's too sucks that, why reset? I just created my faction and you do a reset is not cool.
Good luck staying alive. The world is so unbalanced right now. You people sure could use a reset. Trust me. You don't want to start playing a game like FOnline when the there hasn't been a wipe or major overhaul in years.
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resetting now would seem like wiping for no good reason. Generally you want to avoid destroying player's effort put into the game without a justified cause (major game/play/rule change).
Opening up the test server is not possible until we get stable version.
It's not even about testing new things which would appear, because they have been already well tested. It's about refreshing the state of the server which currently suffers from old bugs/balance issues which were fixed long ago (like enormous amounts of caps from banks), a large flow of top tier stuff which started with NR/Warehouse lockers, and new issues like -AP TPRs, gecko ammo, fully implanted tanks and other things. Remember that I wanted to wipe the game almost one year ago, but was unable to do it, nobody planned this session taking so long. I'm pretty sure that server reset would be a good temporary solution to fix many problems until the real next session.
Now THAT is a justified cause. It has to be done. I have changed my vote to support the reset.
Gecko breath ammo is not an issue, it's propagated by butthurt Normal DR/DT tanks who are getting their asses handed to them.
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I started to gather godlike amount of resourcess and craft almost limitless amount of high tier gear in my base...I will have hard time, but when I read about that reset I think it can be even profitable....I can craft that stuff once again, but with more players around...should be interesting :D
Anyway, what about implants...how they gonna be implemented in our post-apocalyptic life after the reset? ???
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Available only from special encounters.
In next session: also a very rare drop.
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+1
Thx for let me knowing :)
Now, only the date will matters 8)
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Oh no it's too sucks that, why reset? I just created my faction and you do a reset is not cool.
My friends and I JUST started playing... What a waste of my time.
You guys should enjoy the game and not grind it! I am pretty sure the restart with everyone at the same time will be more intersting. You will be involved not only in PvE but also in PvP, thinking about HOW to survive longer, every beggining of the session is hard for everyone.
That's a self serving statement.
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I'm still waiting for more feedback and votes :P
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I'm still waiting for more feedback and votes :P
Honestly, I'd be down with a reset if you gave us a few months notice. A lot of games have wipes, but it's the surprise resets that peeve players. Every game that I've played that exhibits that kind of treatment of players, usually ends up dying. It's just inconsiderate and unprofessional - I mean, you can't expect everyone to have a forum account, especially your newbies who are going to be the most bothered by seeing their level 12 character disappear without any idea as to what happened. Casual players will also be impacted. The only people who benefit from this are long time hardcore players.
Give a for sure date atleast a month away and it will go over smoothly. Don't come to a decision based on who has the most angry words to type on the forums. Again, you don't even have feedback from your whole demographic. It would be unwise to act on incomplete information.
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Give a for sure date atleast a month away and it will go over smoothly.
The longer you wait for a delay the more you will lose :P
On the forum there is tons of post explaining how to level up quick and after reset youll find lot of help in hub. Shared experience will also make things easier if implemented.
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Test session isn't needed or possible?
Cool, wipe that shit.
;D
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You guys should enjoy the game and not grind it! I am pretty sure the restart with everyone at the same time will be more intersting. You will be involved not only in PvE but also in PvP, thinking about HOW to survive longer, every beggining of the session is hard for everyone.
LOL I am not new, I have tons of stuff and full of personal that's what pisses me off. I received the message reset when I guy was killing the enclave and I thought if it still worth it to continue this charade ....
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You guys should enjoy the game and not grind it! I am pretty sure the restart with everyone at the same time will be more intersting. You will be involved not only in PvE but also in PvP, thinking about HOW to survive longer, every beggining of the session is hard for everyone.
LOL I am not new, I have tons of stuff and full of personal that's what pisses me off. I received the message reset when I guy was killing the enclave and I thought if it still worth it to continue this charade ....
I see what the other guy meant about resetting sooner then. I'm feelin' it too. I don't even want to play until it resets, because it seems like most forum users want it reset.
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Give a for sure date atleast a month away and it will go over smoothly.
The longer you wait for a delay the more you will lose :P
On the forum there is tons of post explaining how to level up quick and after reset youll find lot of help in hub. Shared experience will also make things easier if implemented.
Johnny, more help after reset?
More people playing together and helping each other? ::)
Oh, please...tell me you belive in St.Claus too ;D
The only help you gonna get in Wastelands is faster movement from knockback, after getting few shots from shotgun ;D
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The game is dead.
There are far less bluesuits running around these days, and many old players have abandoned ship. We need this reset, regardless of the impending wipe, and I would even be in favor of the devs taking their sweet time after the initial reset. This way, the game is active again, we get a few updates as mentioned, and people can stop bitching about the full wipe.
This needs to happen like tomorrow.
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Or today!
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Sorry if I repeat something that has been said, but I've not readed all post pages, only the first ones and some others.
A can't give an opinion as valuable as other ones, because my game experience is shorter than most of you, but I think that a reset now will change things only for a month or two if there are no more than few new features that will not rebalance, for example, the easy way to get stuff (private mines, low crafting costs on items, easy acces lockers spawning random top tier gear, ...). In my opinion, the game will be the same again in few time. Maybe enought time before wipe comes, maybe not. Personally i don't like the idea because this means that I'll do exactly the same that I've been doing the last 2 months, reaching the same goals and repeating the same things (like replaying a game before ending it), and this will be like playing a short session again until wipe comes.
I think a reset will be like an hypo on an almost dead player sorrounded by an army of supermutant minigunners: healty for a very shord period of time. I vote "I don't know". Just tell me when it will occur and I'll land my vertibird in Reno, sorrounded with lots of antipersonal mines ;P
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I agree. Perhaps after this reset, which will level the playing field once again, they can implement features that will mitigate the need to reset. I already like the idea of having no max-level - it was one of the reasons I didn't want to reset. I didn't see the point if I could eventually get up there as well. Like most mmo's, there's always going to be people with a bunch of stuff and levels, but the things can change if you're patient.
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This voting is a joke, I could make a forum alt and vote 100 times on "Yes it should be resetted" in like 5 hours. So I would not relly on it.
Ps: the vote on it being wiped bumped up like 20 in no time, I believe it's being botted.
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Botted? You kidding? You can check who's registered recently.
If someone makes forum alts to vote (which is very stupid), I will ban him and his minions into oblivion.
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Make a decision! I like this game, but I don't want to invest time into a character if I won't be able to enjoy using it later.
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yes I vote yes I been waiting for this moment ;D
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Available only from special encounters.
What does that mean? like the bunker special encounter?
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Botted? You kidding? You can check who's registered recently.
If someone makes forum alts to vote (which is very stupid), I will ban him and his minions into oblivion.
I have a few comments and suggestions - although I did vote yes for a reset (even though I'm quite wealthy in the game).
First and foremost, Kilgore - you should make sure this poll reaches almost all of the community. If the only people who vote are people who are on the forums a lot, you're missing a huge amount of the playerbase (I'd be willing to be most people never check the forums).
With that concern out of the way, I really hate the idea of rare items only coming out of random special encounters. I remember when the only way to get Power Armor was through special encounters at the beginning of the session back in september 2013, and I always hated that. Implants are a bit different in that you can't lose them after putting them in your character, but the basic premise of it being completely random remains the same - and people shouldn't be rewarded for trolling around on the map with a bot program 24/7. The best implementation of rare items would be for them to be in a "magic locker" at the bottom of a very hard dungeon that would require a team of seasoned players to get through - no more reno bluesuit bullshit, and no more awful slag AI manipulating. I guess that's impossible since no one is working on anything like that for this game, but it's still my suggestion for the healthiest implementation of rare items.
I'm fairly concerned about players getting confused and thinking this is "THE wipe" and quitting when they realize there weren't any massive changes that they would expect from "THE" wipe, but if you follow my suggestion to spend some time letting this poll reach the community - it shouldn't be an issue.
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Wipe is necessary to minimize the differences to build a more balanced server. I'm not talking about anything new.
Reno/WR/Glow lockers certainly represent relative threat to the balanced PvP. And the implants too. To keep it in the game, should be reconsidered and change. Or just remove it all!
The new players who will get frustrated with the wipe, believe me, it will be probably much better. Chances server currently prevent factions without experience of growing up. I'm talking in terms of PvP.
I agree with several comments. I believe Kilgore will consider suggestions aimed at building a more attractive and balanced server. I really hope so!
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Botted? You kidding? You can check who's registered recently.
If someone makes forum alts to vote (which is very stupid), I will ban him and his minions into oblivion.
Ok maybe if you are checking the recent registered then yes. maybe they are not botting. However if I wanted to boost the poll I could easily put up 6 votes in no time at all without creating any forum alts, this forum has been up for almost 2 years. I'm almost sure everyone here has atleast 3-4 forum alts. Just log into them with a gap of 15 minutes during the night when nobody is active and nobody will know. You can also set ur forum alt to invisable on forum while u vote.
It's very unreliable is what I'm saying.
I suggest to make a date for voting. And make the vote only last 1 hour long. People who are serious and actually did vote will show up there because well you know, it's means alot to them. Better to make it a weekend, but ofcourse use this poll as something you can check for refference incase otherone doesn't work out so well.
Just some advice.
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resetting now would seem like wiping for no good reason. Generally you want to avoid destroying player's effort put into the game without a justified cause (major game/play/rule change).
I kinda feel like a lot of new players are being forced to deal with this kind of thing. I know I had no idea about this post until Kilgore said something in game and I just happened to be online.
I feel like I just wasted a bunch of time. Either reset it asap so new players can get back into it, or wipe it later after a predetermined date so we know when it's coming (advertise it in-game a lot too). OP's post stated that it will be great for everyone because we're all bored. I'm not bored - I was just getting interested... Now I have to get re-interested on all the quests I've already done, not to mention having a few alts that also need to do the quest.
It is said somewhere in this thread that you shouldn't grind or want to grind or whatever... But this game IS a grind. You need to grind to get good shit so you can do fun and interesting things. So forcing newbs to regrind everything because the older players have already had a chance to experience the entirety of the game TIME and TIME again is really unfair. There has to be a better way of resetting the server instead of leaving it to a vote that is comprised mainly of long time users.
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Game was supposed to wipe a year ago. And people are still crying about losing the stuff they just gained? Ugh.
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Game was supposed to wipe a year ago. And people are still crying about losing the stuff they just gained? Ugh.
Wipe needs to happen soon cause FOnline playerbase in total is dying :'(
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Game was supposed to wipe a year ago. And people are still crying about losing the stuff they just gained? Ugh.
Lol how did I get generalized with other people when I just got here? Are you dense or something?
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http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=7286.0;topicseen
i want to bump this and go off topic for sec. It's very important to me, and for the PvE/PvP side of FOnline. Must study numbers, and statistics. Please comment on your kill stats. It's vital information. Not joking. How many things have you killed? What type of critter? The only thing that matters is the sheer numbers. Post your kill stats as screens if you need.
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Reset will just reset world -> add a bit more balance for testing,
This will help us out in the long run.
If you find a new balance problem that PISSES YOU RIGHT OFF we can solve it quicker.
Reset is a good idea IMO, now that I've thought about it more. Remember that this is just a stepping stone to pre-alpha. Lot of changes we need to test. We must start off small.
PvP + Critical table needs some more exploring. Reset allows us to spectate as all you pros get to level 150 in 3 hours. If anyone wants to complain about the engine, let's give them the opportunity to experience it as a noob again. This will allow more opened ended opinions, and allow us all to see things from the bigger picture.
I know some people will hate it, but we all get to be noobs again, and really see Reloaded for what it is. No more vet characters, cap amounts, tents, bases, etc. Go play as a noob again. Let's put our brains together and go hmmmm!
Please support this idea. For the greater good of the server. It's for balance. It truly is. Whatever happens during these few upcoming months will help the future of the server more than the past 2-3 years.
Come experience the world through the eyes of a blind man that can magically see. Epiphany I tell you!
PS. IT will not slow down progress at all. Trust me.
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I feel like I just wasted a bunch of time. Either reset it asap so new players can get back into it, or wipe it later after a predetermined date so we know when it's coming (advertise it in-game a lot too). OP's post stated that it will be great for everyone because we're all bored. I'm not bored - I was just getting interested... Now I have to get re-interested on all the quests I've already done, not to mention having a few alts that also need to do the quest.
It is said somewhere in this thread that you shouldn't grind or want to grind or whatever... But this game IS a grind. You need to grind to get good shit so you can do fun and interesting things. So forcing newbs to regrind everything because the older players have already had a chance to experience the entirety of the game TIME and TIME again is really unfair. There has to be a better way of resetting the server instead of leaving it to a vote that is comprised mainly of long time users.
I've been trying to think of a nice and polite way to respond that conveys my point, but I'm just not coming up with anything. I'm not real good at the whole nice and polite thing - blame my parents or something.
Yeah, shits unfair. What is even more unfair is catering to the selfish needs of new guys that will likely not stick around anyway (95% don't) and disregarding what dedicated long-term players think. If we want to talk about what is "fair" and what people deserve based on the length of time they've been here, well I'm sorry to say people like Acosta should have more say. He's invested FAR MORE time into this game than you, so I for one value his opinion more. He has a much deeper pool of experience to draw his opinions from.
There will always be new people around the time of a wipe, that's how it's always been. Someone always has to draw the short straw, whether wipe is today or next year. Your feels are simply hurt because this time it's you.
Sorry man.
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Guys its no sense idea. i worked for my charas for weaks and i donate too. what the point of that reset? to make all again ? its not funny. if it will be smth new to do - for sure its good.
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Guys its no sense idea. i worked for my charas for weaks and i donate too. what the point of that reset? to make all again ? its not funny. if it will be smth new to do - for sure its good.
We would only "reset" if it was for a reason -> "something good"
If you think what's available now is good enough, you'll shit your pants when you see the new content!
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I feel like I just wasted a bunch of time. Either reset it asap so new players can get back into it, or wipe it later after a predetermined date so we know when it's coming (advertise it in-game a lot too). OP's post stated that it will be great for everyone because we're all bored. I'm not bored - I was just getting interested... Now I have to get re-interested on all the quests I've already done, not to mention having a few alts that also need to do the quest.
It is said somewhere in this thread that you shouldn't grind or want to grind or whatever... But this game IS a grind. You need to grind to get good shit so you can do fun and interesting things. So forcing newbs to regrind everything because the older players have already had a chance to experience the entirety of the game TIME and TIME again is really unfair. There has to be a better way of resetting the server instead of leaving it to a vote that is comprised mainly of long time users.
I've been trying to think of a nice and polite way to respond that conveys my point, but I'm just not coming up with anything. I'm not real good at the whole nice and polite thing - blame my parents or something.
Yeah, shits unfair. What is even more unfair is catering to the selfish needs of new guys that will likely not stick around anyway (95% don't) and disregarding what dedicated long-term players think. If we want to talk about what is "fair" and what people deserve based on the length of time they've been here, well I'm sorry to say people like Acosta should have more say. He's invested FAR MORE time into this game than you, so I for one value his opinion more. He has a much deeper pool of experience to draw his opinions from.
There will always be new people around the time of a wipe, that's how it's always been. Someone always has to draw the short straw, whether wipe is today or next year. Your feels are simply hurt because this time it's you.
Sorry man.
lol ok ok, don't get too excited. I can make rash assumptions too - it just depends on how offended I get.
ontopic: Just wipe it and show us the goods. I'm not going to play until the reset.
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I'm for progress server, but it looks more like a piece of cake detachment . I am for what would wipe was after the completion of the work . What if we now do a wipe but after 3 - 4 months will wipe again? I think it's stupid .
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I'm not voting in the poll;
Kilgore, right now you have to do a Maxon- make a command decision. Reset, no reset, wipe, no wipe, implement new features not implement them, whatever. Make a decision based on what's best for the server and stand by it. Our thoughts/hopes/dreams/feelings be damned.
It doesn't matter which decision you make, SOMEONE will hate it. In fact a lot of people will. some will hate any decision you make, and say so loudly and often. "Oh, the wipe was sooooo STUPID, but the rest was such a GREAT idea!" Flip the decisions around, same guy would be saying wipe was awesome and the reset was dumb.
Call the ball.
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I'm not voting in the poll;
Kilgore, right now you have to do a Maxon- make a command decision. Reset, no reset, wipe, no wipe, implement new features not implement them, whatever. Make a decision based on what's best for the server and stand by it. Our thoughts/hopes/dreams/feelings be damned.
It doesn't matter which decision you make, SOMEONE will hate it. In fact a lot of people will. some will hate any decision you make, and say so loudly and often. "Oh, the wipe was sooooo STUPID, but the rest was such a GREAT idea!" Flip the decisions around, same guy would be saying wipe was awesome and the reset was dumb.
Call the ball.
I can grow roots for a week I was not afraid of a wipe . I just do not want to play in the imperfection .
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maybe make a pop up event on loggin allowing 1 ip a vote.
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The reality is, if server resets now it will get considerable amount of things fixed and implemented, that is great. And you will play from start with other ppl, till the big wipe where abnormal amounts of content will be implemented. So the end game is the same thing, there will be reset and you will get your stuff deleted anyway. So arguments like: "I'll get my crap deleted." are useless because they will get wiped eventually anyway.
Like this you will have new stuff all ppl will start from beginning, more encounters will happen with other ppl because all will be same lvl, more kills, more pvp, more pve so you can enjoy game more till the BIG WIPE where it will implement insane amount of stuff to do.
So chill and relax it is all same. Just enjoy the game. And read posts from Kilgore before commenting...
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When do you think it will be reset?
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How can you be so sure it will?
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How can you be so sure it will?
Because over 2x as many vote reset instead of no and Kilgore likes the idea
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When do you think it will be reset?
Soon after Half-Life 3 premiere.
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i now commence throwing my opinion in with others on the wipe!, Yes.
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I'm personally pro-reset. I've started playing this game almost two months ago and have put in at least a couple hours most of those days (though usually more than that). While I've amassed a fair amount of loot, gear, and resources, I'm not really bothered by losing it all, as the time spent exploring, and finding and collecting it was far more enjoyable for me, and I effectively get to do that all over again. Only difference is now there's the added bonus of not having to worry about some jackass who's been playing far longer that me coming along and one-hit killing me before I even have a chance to react. While I'm sure that I'll still get my ass handed to me in PvP type situations, it'll be nice to be at the same level as everyone else and not have to deal with those frustrations as often (for at least a week or two, heh).
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Resets are only temporary solutions to the problem of unbalance, but I'm still down for a reset now. Reading other peoples' posts has changed my point of view, thanks!
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Alright, I think it's enough.
Yes - 61.5%
Nope - 36.3%
Dunno - 2.2%
Thanks for participating.
Call your buddies, we'll make the reset/update on next Friday (01.05). Details will be announced in a day or two.
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Wipe me that shit!!! :-*
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Alright, I think it's enough.
Yes - 61.5%
Nope - 36.3%
Dunno - 2.2%
Thanks for participating.
Call your buddies, we'll make the reset/update on next Friday (01.05). Details will be announced in a day or two.
okay let's go to the vault guys :)
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1 week till judgement day where server will either leave or die since people cant be arsed to farm cause wipe is soon
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It is the most stable server online so that nothing bad should happen
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Yup, Favorite is right. This server is quiet stable and busy. So everything should goes as planned.
So guys, see you on the other side 8)
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Judging by the voting results, It seems only 60 people are 100% sure to join after wipe, and 30 might. And maybe 20+ more will join.
Perhaps make sure there will be a 5month gap between the current wipe and wipe afterwhich. Otherwise people will not take the game 100% serious. I remember when FOnline2 did this same exact thing and called it a beta. There was something like 25 people playing it because people found no reason to do stuff that will get wiped in near future by something that was supposed to come any moment the engine is fixed.
My suggestion is that the server doesn't wipe for 2-3 weeks while advertisign the new session that will last 4+ month's. This way there will be more players and maybe add a few updates in the meantime while developers wait for the engine updates. From what I hear the server already has the content to be wiped and have enough content.
So my suggestion is count it as a new session and bring more players with the promise of updates time to time.
Few thoughts.
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so what now?
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Call your buddies, we'll make the reset/update on next Friday (01.05).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBb-ckdYIM
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I'm anti-reset, if it matters. I patiently wait for Reloaded Season 2, the best FOnline server in the world. I'll gladly wait a year if that's what it takes for the devs to be happy with their work. No complaints here.
Meanwhile, i'm quite happy with the leveling work i have done, so i log in with a fully leveled guy (i choose 1 from over 30) and play him without having to grind. Grinding was the price i paid during the first year! lol. I fly a vertibird. I managed to get some implants and 1 character with all of them. Why would i want to come home from work to start over? I worked my butt off for a year and i'd like to enjoy the benefits for 2 years. Reset it now and i start over? Really...
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IMO, first end all features, then do wipe. ATM, don't do it.
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I am not for.
In my opinion it's only for keeping server alive. In one month it♥s gonna be like now = dead. So, it♥s just waste of time I guess.
I'll w8 for a normal wipe, mean new season.
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I'm for progress server, but it looks more like a piece of cake detachment . I am for what would wipe was after the completion of the work . What if we now do a wipe but after 3 - 4 months will wipe again? I think it's stupid .
Yeah, I agree, but I'm just not going to play in that case. There are other servers.
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Reset is going to be a fucking blast. All those blue suits :) and low level PvPers.
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+1
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And a MadMax alike damn leather jackets 8)
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İ am strongly disaggree with this idea . Servers shouldnt be resetted . İf you turn game into upgraded .You dont have to reset all chars. So if there will be resets why do we play ?
İf this thing is really going to happen then i will not play game anymore
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İ am strongly disaggree with this idea . Servers shouldnt be resetted . İf you turn game into upgraded .You dont have to reset all chars. So if there will be resets why do we play ?
Wipe gives a reason to try old features that people don't usually do because they already have everything they could ever want.
İf this thing is really going to happen then i will not play game anymore
Kk thx bai
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İ am strongly disaggree with this idea . Servers shouldnt be resetted . İf you turn game into upgraded .You dont have to reset all chars. So if there will be resets why do we play ?
İf this thing is really going to happen then i will not play game anymore
Go ahead you throwing a tantrum and quitting bothers nobody. Everyone else will continue to enjoy the game.
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in any case, never too late to pick up your server and play for fun