Finesse

[Kaaon]

bump, there are 0 active cripplers.. 

[Corax]

bump, there are 0 active cripplers.. 

what?
i was a crippler.

[Kaaon]

bump, there are 0 active cripplers.. 

what?
i was a crippler.

said crippler with right between the eyes 
http://play.fonline-reloaded.net/char.php?46487

[Corax]

bump, there are 0 active cripplers.. 

what?
i was a crippler.

said crippler with right between the eyes 
http://play.fonline-reloaded.net/char.php?46487

yeah, and what? i could choose between livegiver or RBtE and chose RBtE. Because why not?

[Kaaon]

yeah, and what? i could choose between livegiver or RBtE and chose RBtE. Because why not?

there are mostly 2 types of snipers.. 1. crippler (hands/legs/groin) 2. dmger (eyes) .. ofc you can also play your own build and shoot whatever you want but it will be never that good, you dont need to be genius to understand some basic things like what is more worth to aim with/without finesse..
http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/wiki/index.php?title=Aimed_Attack
http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=1708.msg36603#msg36603
usually only newbies are taking both rbte and finesse because they are taking everything what affects aims without thinking, those two together are.. usable but not that good

crippler should shoot hands, groin or legs so he dont need right between the eyes
hands/groin/legs does have lower crit chance then eyes so they need finesse more then eyes and they are doing more effects then damage compared to eyes - more crit from finesse = even more effects

damager should shoot eyes so he need right between the eyes, eyes are doing more damage and not that much effects, thats why its not that effective to take finesse for eye shooter, it would just drastically lower your damage and for crit effects its better to shoot hands,groin,legs

[Corax]

I wish I could disagree with you. 
For that reason I started shot in arms few days ago with my "paper" sniper.
Still, one wrong perk is not much (in just not good build)

[Sperber]

How about this?

- +10% crit chance
- attacks cost 1 AP more

[Kaaon]

How about this?

- +10% crit chance
- attacks cost 1 AP more

no, more ap cost = less effects per action point, wouldnt be worth to take for crippling

+15% crit chance (still wouldnt be worth to take for dps) or reduced DR penalty would be better

[Sperber]

Where does the +30% damage resistance come from anyway? Kinda makes no sense.
What if you give Finesse a stat malus (like Bonehead has) instead?

-1 ST or EN, for example. Having 1 less special point hurt's a sniper quite a bit since they need all they can get.

[Strike]

I like your suggestions to change Finesse.

Where does the +30% damage resistance come from anyway? Kinda makes no sense.

Since old fallout games, yeah doesn't make sense and should be changed and upgraded to new age.

What if you give Finesse a stat malus (like Bonehead has) instead?

Something like this should work just fine, no need to use that +30 DR which is too much for that trait.

[Boon]

-stat? I think we got enough of those.

What about a bonus to crit roll aswell when aiming at limbs?
Could make cripplers a little more viable without making the trait some sort of must-have for snipers.

[Kaaon]

What about a bonus to crit roll aswell when aiming at limbs?
Could make cripplers a little more viable without making the trait some sort of must-have for snipers.

+1, critroll is good idea too
+5 critroll, +10 crit chance but +30% target DR sounds as good deal for crippler while not much good for dps 

[Gimper]

Where does the +30% damage resistance come from anyway? Kinda makes no sense.
What if you give Finesse a stat malus (like Bonehead has) instead?

-1 ST or EN, for example. Having 1 less special point hurt's a sniper quite a bit since they need all they can get.

+1 to this. It seems like the best way to make cripplers a viable choice in PvP. -1 str would be a good trade-off for the bonus critical chance, because it would not be such a thorn-in-the-side as +30 DR is, yet it would still be a bit of a problem. This would definitely be a way to add more of a variety of PvP characters.

[Kaaon]

Where does the +30% damage resistance come from anyway? Kinda makes no sense.
What if you give Finesse a stat malus (like Bonehead has) instead?

-1 ST or EN, for example. Having 1 less special point hurt's a sniper quite a bit since they need all they can get.

+1 to this. It seems like the best way to make cripplers a viable choice in PvP. -1 str would be a good trade-off for the bonus cc, because it would not be such a thorn-in-the-side as +30 DR is. This would definitely be a way to add more of a variety of PvP characters.

-1 ST +10% crit chance has nothing to do with crippler, it would boost bursters and eye snipers too

[Gimper]

Where does the +30% damage resistance come from anyway? Kinda makes no sense.
What if you give Finesse a stat malus (like Bonehead has) instead?

-1 ST or EN, for example. Having 1 less special point hurt's a sniper quite a bit since they need all they can get.

+1 to this. It seems like the best way to make cripplers a viable choice in PvP. -1 str would be a good trade-off for the bonus cc, because it would not be such a thorn-in-the-side as +30 DR is. This would definitely be a way to add more of a variety of PvP characters.

-1 ST +10% crit chance has nothing to do with crippler, it would boost eye sniper too

I'm talking about finesse here.. If you take -1str, there is a weapon penalty, so -20% chance to hit. It DOES have something to do with cripplers, and any build for that matter. -1 stat point can be a huge loss for certain characters.