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Kilgore

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Changelog 19/07/2015
« on: July 19, 2015, 10:03:08 pm »
Changelog 19/07/2015

- Added an option to buy any custom skin at Barber for 2500 caps. List of available skins is the same as here.
- Any SMG kept in primary/secondary slot now gives -100 penalty to Sneak skill as intended earlier (see wipe changelog).
- Fixed a bug where rifle kept in secondary slot would not give penalty to Sneak skill.
- Tattoo no longer requires being older than 18.
- Fixed a bug where you could raise reputation with Gun Runners too much.
- Fixed a bug where low INT character was unable to speak with Smitty in Den.

Please note: skin buying feature will be reworked to something more appropriate for the next session.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2015, 09:38:04 pm by Kilgore »

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2015, 10:06:00 pm »
- P90c kept in primary/secondary slot now gives -100 penalty to Sneak skill as intended earlier (see wipe changelog).
- Fixed a bug where rifle kept in secondary slot would not give penalty to Sneak skill.
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2015, 10:25:58 pm »
sneakers dead.. now everybody -> LSW TANK.. :(

While I don't think the P90 penalty is necessary or even fair considering the investment sneak takes to become combat ready or what you sacrifice to make it playable, sneak isn't dead. I've been playing as if the penalty were in place for ages, you just need to rethink how you're playing it.
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2015, 10:34:39 pm »
- P90c kept in primary/secondary slot now gives -100 penalty to Sneak skill as intended earlier (see wipe changelog).
- Fixed a bug where rifle kept in secondary slot would not give penalty to Sneak skill.
Doesn't affect me :P I don't use Burst sneaks. Good Job Kilgore love the updates.
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2015, 10:40:39 pm »
That -100 penalty can be reduced by stealth boy and/or ghost perk?
Or just set sneak skill at 200% when char have 300% skill?

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2015, 10:54:18 pm »
Nice update. It's about time sneak got it's nerf. :)

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2015, 11:09:55 pm »
Much needed fix and excellent update

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2015, 01:14:01 am »
That -100 penalty can be reduced by stealth boy and/or ghost perk?
Or just set sneak skill at 200% when char have 300% skill?
Pretty sure that the bonus from stealth boy is applied before penalties. As in you have 300% skill to start but use p90. It is then 200%. Use stealthboy and it gives no bonus because 300% is the skill cap and bonus is calculated before penalty.

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2015, 02:35:39 am »
That -100 penalty can be reduced by stealth boy and/or ghost perk?
Or just set sneak skill at 200% when char have 300% skill?
Pretty sure that the bonus from stealth boy is applied before penalties. As in you have 300% skill to start but use p90. It is then 200%. Use stealthboy and it gives no bonus because 300% is the skill cap and bonus is calculated before penalty.

That's how I've always understood it.  Penalties for armor and weapons applied after bonuses.

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2015, 09:37:54 pm »
Sorry but I made a mistake in changelog.

correct:
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- Any SMG kept in primary/secondary slot now gives -100 penalty to Sneak skill as intended earlier (see wipe changelog).

previous:
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- P90c kept in primary/secondary slot now gives -100 penalty to Sneak skill as intended earlier (see wipe changelog).

so the penalty is applied also to 10mm SMG, H&K G11, grease guns and so on.

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2015, 09:58:47 pm »
you made another mistake i dont see reno in changelog  :'(

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2015, 09:16:07 am »
Is it possible to finaly wear armors over skins ? Can I for example have CA Res. while begin a deadclaw ?

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2015, 06:57:51 pm »
- Any SMG kept in primary/secondary slot now gives -100 penalty to Sneak skill as intended earlier (see wipe changelog).

Pls change penality on -50. People could use stealth boy. What is then stealth boy? How much should penality smg guns before wipe? Maybe -50 is low but -100 is much.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2015, 07:08:40 pm by GAMBRINUS »

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2015, 08:55:23 pm »
I think like this ( stealth boy ) are rare, make it like this, make the panelty big  but when u use stealth boy u get none of the penalty, this way sneker is expensive, rich people wil buy it YES but lower class players will get money + when sneaker is without stealth boy its usless.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2015, 08:57:12 pm by MacReady »
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2015
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2015, 09:13:52 pm »
I think like this ( stealth boy ) are rare, make it like this, make the panelty big  but when u use stealth boy u get none of the penalty, this way sneker is expensive, rich people wil buy it YES but lower class players will get money + when sneaker is without stealth boy its usless.

you're wrong - sneaker it's not useless for simple example - recon

you're right - stealth boy is kinda rare, but now it's useless because for every sneaker MUSTHAVE is 300% sneak skill

and I think it could be reworked to lower a bit this penalty for using SMGs - but not to full 300%