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TC question
« on: November 23, 2014, 09:21:34 am »
On the wiki it says you need tier two armor to count. What's tier two? I can't find anything in the wiki about which tier the armors are.
Also, is there a level requirement at all, or is it just armor?
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Re: TC question
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2014, 10:59:05 am »
There seams to be no tier requirements for armors to start TC timer.

What you need to count for timer:
- level 12+
- inside TC zone
- max. 15 hex from NPC (for starting timer only)
- any armor
- max. 80% armor deterioration = 20%+ armor condition
- tier 1 weapon = any weapon :)
- max. 75% weapon deterioration = 25%+ weapon condition
- not be on (off) or sneak

As for tiers/item levels, they are based of item's base price:

Armors:
Tier 3:
  • tesla armor
  • ncr armor
  • combat armor
  • combat armor mk2
  • desert combat armor
  • brotherhood armor
  • enclave armor
  • power armor
  • hardened power armor
  • advanced power armor
Tier 2:
  • metal armor
  • metal armor mk2
Tier 1:
all other armors.

Weapons:
Tier 3:
  • gauss rifle
  • vindicator
  • pulse rifle
  • gatling laser
  • gauss pistol
  • pulse pistol
  • bozar
  • h&k g11e
  • h&k g11
  • turbo plasma
  • avenger minigun
  • alien blaster
  • fn fal (night sight)
  • phazer
  • plasma rifle
  • xl70e3
  • hk p90c
  • fn fal hpfa
  • pancor jackhammer
  • sniper rifle
  • laser rifle (ext. cap.)
  • laser rifle
  • plasma pistol (ext. cap)
Tier 2:
  • minigun
  • h&k caws
  • plasma pistol
  • fn fal
  • grenade launcher
  • assault rifle
  • needler pistol
  • grenade pistol
  • combat shotgun
  • assault rifle
  • .223 pistol
  • 14mm pistol
Tier 1:
all other weapons, including throwing/melee.

edit:
I forgot about sneak mode :)
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 07:52:53 pm by mojuk »
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Re: TC question
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2014, 07:38:35 pm »
Now that we have a specific answer from a dev regarding gear tiers, this might get cleared up, but up until now this is how i saw it:

No-Tier Items: all minor items that cannot be crafted. Examples: rubber boots, iguana-on-a-stick.
Tier 0: All items that can be crafted from level 1 with no training. Examples: tent, hatchet, Mauser.
Tier 1: all craftable items that require only pro training 1.
Tier 2: All craftable items that require blueprints.
Tier 3: Beyond blueprints. Examples: power armor, gauss pistol, pulse pistol, special CA*
Tier 4: Examples: HPA, gauss rifle, gatling laser, TPR, pulse rifle, Bozar, Vindicator
Tier 5: Examples: Advanced PA, Dual-Minigun Turret
Tier 6: Examples: Dual Laser Cannon Turret

Exceptions: according to this, minigun is tier 2. I call Avenger tier 3 since its a substantial upgrade, which means Vindicator is tier 4. Bozar tier 4. And because phazer is a Star Trek item (lol), its very nature puts it in max tier along with the alien blaster.

As for armor in TC, when i go with a 3-man team to do TC, and i wear Leather Armor Mk2 because i'm a sneaker, we can start the TC timer, but it stops soon after that. I have to switch to better armor and not be in Sneak mode for TC to work right.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 08:02:34 pm by Henry »