FOnline: Reloaded
General => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Kilgore on March 28, 2015, 03:02:31 pm
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Changelog 28/03/2015
Implant modules can be now bought at Dr Fung in San Francisco:
- Nemean module - 750.000 bottle caps,
- Dermal/Phoenix module - 500.000 bottle caps,
- SPECIAL module - 250.000 bottle caps.
Character level 30 is required in order to buy any implant module.
Additional locker (same as in New Reno Arms) has been placed in Glow.
Warehouse has now less guards.
Added TC window to Klamath from 20.00 to 21.00.
If you are not sure about current time on the server, you can check it here. (http://time.is/Warsaw)
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Additional locker (same as in New Reno Arms) has been placed in Glow.
Nice :D
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How long is the server going to be down for?
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nice . thx. Pozdrawiam
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Changelog updated, I forgot about small change in Warehouse.
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Thats a good choice. Now as a crafter you get a reward when doing much runs to get caps and can invest it in something useful
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Now how the fuck do I get caps? :-[
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Now how the fuck do I get caps? :-[
bartering is fastest way
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Now how the fuck do I get caps? :-[
Sell implants and get caps :D
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So, from now on I can just buy implants?
Crafters are gonna be so happy about it :D
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Why less slags at warehouse? It was already too easy before. Now its even less of a challenge
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I'm so happy to see a new changelog ;D
nice changes, thanks!
great to have a use for all those caps in my safe.
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Respects*
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I can't believe this is happening... best update of the session! 8)
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this makes me sick. now players without skill will have fully implanted chars. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RAISE PRICE. MY pheonix fkin sold for 5m on forums. ph+dermal should be 5m. Nemeans 7m normals 1m
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Yeah, cause for sure every starting newbie will gather 250k x 7 just in few minutes :facepalm
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So Skill is only what you call it to be ?
If one can gather 750k + 100k for surgery and get save to san francisco i guess it's fair than. I find it good so player who don't want to camp in new reno all day or join factions can have something valuable for their time they spend in crafting mining or whatever...
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@DesertHero +1
Amen my friend, I just maybe a little bit make these implants more expensive.
Overall it's a good idea, and it's now fair for every single player.
Thx devs once again. :D
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finally begins normal game, sensible step, balanced conditions
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why you keep repeating this feature makes balance against noobs?
finally i can see fully implanted crafter-trader-treasurehunter characters!
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My appreciation goes beyond words.
GJ
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An exciting change, Kilgore!
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Good change!! Thanks team
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GJ Kilgore ! ;D
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well done, Killgore! Perhaps implants should cost little more, but overall its good. VERY GOOD!
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They shouldn't cost more , because for average player its not too hard and not too easy to get those amounts of caps. Still you need time to get those amounts of caps normal way without programs. On other side for not average players , for those that use bots , auto clickers , macro saver and other stuff to farm its much easier. So the current prices are fine , because they aren't too high for average people that aren't try hard. Because if u get prices higher it will be too hard for most average players. And for those in power that already have caps and use programs it wont affect them at all.
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Yeah, the prices are already high enough. We're talking +5M caps per character to fully implant, assuming you want them all. And how many characters? 2? Then you need 10M caps just for this. Start another fighter? Great you need 5M more caps. lol! That's sufficiently challenging for most players, and it will be tougher now with the barter runs skyrocketing with this great news.
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Henry is right. Good luck farming caps to supply all of your combat alts with implants. The amount of time and effort it will take will balance things out. If players want to grind like this is WoW or whatever people play, let them. Don't punish the players with 1000+ hours. In fact, if you get 1000 hours out of this game, I think we've all done our jobs.
Caps aren't too hard to get, and a casual player can get implants. Either way, new session should fix a lot of these old issues. You don't have to necessarily buy implants anyways, there are other ways. But hey remember the Bunker was like 1.2 million and everybody had one.
Anywho, I'm not very good at balance so take what I say with a grain of salt. I just write things.
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this makes me sick. now players without skill will have fully implanted chars. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RAISE PRICE. MY pheonix fkin sold for 5m on forums. ph+dermal should be 5m. Nemeans 7m normals 1m
El Oh El...
Good update. Should breathe a little life into the server for a while.
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Changelog 28/03/2015
Implant modules can be now bought at Dr Fung in San Francisco:
- Nemean module - 750.000 bottle caps,
- Dermal/Phoenix module - 500.000 bottle caps,
- SPECIAL module - 250.000 bottle caps.
Character level 30 is required in order to buy any implant module.
Uh, Kilgore, didn't you say "No (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=6603.msg49703#msg49703)" to this very thing?
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It is a solution till wipe read http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=7112.0 , then he will implement another solution after wipe. :)
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Changelog 28/03/2015
Implant modules can be now bought at Dr Fung in San Francisco:
- Nemean module - 750.000 bottle caps,
- Dermal/Phoenix module - 500.000 bottle caps,
- SPECIAL module - 250.000 bottle caps.
Character level 30 is required in order to buy any implant module.
Uh, Kilgore, didn't you say "No (http://forum.fonline-reloaded.net/index.php?topic=6603.msg49703#msg49703)" to this very thing?
This is a good update, now makes everything balanced stop with the crying and moaning.
thank you kilgore
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This is a good update, now makes everything balanced stop with the crying and moaning.
How do you know? As BBS, who were saying they are not coming back only because of not fair conditions (implants), came back during the day, did "empty TC" and never came back. :)
That was a terrible update. The day Kilgore announced it, I told him it would bring a swarm of fully implanted snipertanks, there would be some fun and later server would be as empty as it was before, but with even more broken conditions. And I added it was a matter of a week in my opinion.
What do we have now? You can do "empty TCs" anytime you want. TCs were the only source of getting implants and a lot of people were fighting for them just because of that reason. Now there is no need - as buyable implants were intoduced, no one cares about towns anymore (you can't trigger PvP that way as no one is coming to defend their cities). No one cares about Reno locker as well (but some old bluesuit looter :D). I don't know if they still do, but Pistoleros stopped camping Reno locker and started camping SF instead. You know - even easier way to get implants is to rape some newbies trying to buy them for uneasily gathered caps. :)
To be specific - the only PvP you can get currently, on this nearly empty server, is getting swarmed by UV using fully implanted snipertanks/tanks+fully implanted bozar sneaker. And you have to choose to be swarmed in Reno, as they don't come to TC, and when they're taking city back an hour later - they avoid the fight, moving around the map. Or getting a huge group of Pistoleros to fight as they show up only when big numbers. Less PvP than used to be and definitely less fun.
If you think I'm "crying and moaning" just because I didn't like the change, go and check yourself, lol. At least we might get some fun. GG
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This is not forum pvp thread Badboy so if you want to start boring talk about swarms/rapes/avoiding fights then make it elsewhere. And if you are going to complain about bad updates in every post then make some "personal river of tears" thread somewhere, reading exactly the same out-of-reality crap is slowly getting boring, there are town control fights, new reno fights same as before, hardly anyone camps SF, the only difference between before and now is that people can buy implants from NPC.
Of course you need to prove everyone was so wrong and you were right but lemme tell you something, there is absolutely no need to do that, nobody gives a damn if you were right or wrong so just get over it instead of starting another drama and forum battle.
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This is not forum pvp thread Badboy so if you want to start boring talk about swarms/rapes/avoiding fights then make it elsewhere. And if you are going to complain about bad updates in every post then make some "personal river of tears" thread somewhere, reading exactly the same out-of-reality crap is slowly getting boring
Where do you see me starting forum pvp? I'm just giving my opinion about the update, pointing out it's unfavorable results. Well, I don't care if people think I'm right or wrong, but if they have a right to give their opinion, why wouldn't I do? :)
there are town control fights, new reno fights same as before, hardly anyone camps SF, the only difference between before and now is that people can buy implants from NPC.
As a player, I see it otherwise and am concerned about server contitions as I see much less PvP since the update. (<- all I said giving brief explanations on specifics)
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@BadBoy, I can agree with some of your standpoint about the update, but honestly the UV swarm had implanted tank/snipers before they were for sale. I feel that this made it fair for everyone to be able to get implanted to stand a chance against the swarm.
@Kilgore... Chill dude xD BadBoy is right about people camping San fran. Pizdaleros camp there and kill unsuspecting victims for free implants and caps. Just ask melt.
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How do you know? As BBS, who were saying they are not coming back only because of not fair conditions (implants), came back during the day, did "empty TC" and never came back. :)
That was a terrible update. The day Kilgore announced it, I told him it would bring a swarm of fully implanted snipertanks, there would be some fun and later server would be as empty as it was before, but with even more broken conditions. And I added it was a matter of a week in my opinion.
What do we have now? You can do "empty TCs" anytime you want. TCs were the only source of getting implants and a lot of people were fighting for them just because of that reason. Now there is no need - as buyable implants were intoduced, no one cares about towns anymore (you can't trigger PvP that way as no one is coming to defend their cities). No one cares about Reno locker as well (but some old bluesuit looter :D). I don't know if they still do, but Pistoleros stopped camping Reno locker and started camping SF instead. You know - even easier way to get implants is to rape some newbies trying to buy them for uneasily gathered caps. :)
To be specific - the only PvP you can get currently, on this nearly empty server, is getting swarmed by UV using fully implanted snipertanks/tanks+fully implanted bozar sneaker. And you have to choose to be swarmed in Reno, as they don't come to TC, and when they're taking city back an hour later - they avoid the fight, moving around the map. Or getting a huge group of Pistoleros to fight as they show up only when big numbers. Less PvP than used to be and definitely less fun.
If you think I'm "crying and moaning" just because I didn't like the change, go and check yourself, lol. At least we might get some fun. GG
From my point of view it was good update - I am not in any gang, I love FOnline world created here, and I do many PvM activities, which gave me fair ammount of caps, yet, after over year of gaming, I was not able to get any implant (even when I was sitting on 9m caps). Now i have 1 character fully implanted, which made my normal PvM gaming easier and more fun thus this, and I can do better in PvP situations, which encourages me more to do this. Besides - what I have noticed so far, only gangs like BBS or UV had fully tweaked characters or some solo hardcore gamers - so in both cases they had that ealier as they have it now, nothing has changed here. As it goes for TC - maybe some little tweaks to this area could make it more attractive.
Overall I am very Happy with this update - its not like everyone has 5m caps to spend at once for 1 character, and even if you want to gather this money, you need to work hard for single implant (like Neaman or Dermal/Phoenix).
Kilgore - would you consider a small change to CAWS shotgun? Currently it is requiring HQA and Advanced Workbench - maybe change it to 5-6 GMP and Workbench to utilise those silly big ammounts of GMP in easier way (since CAWS needs blueprints anyway).
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IMO CAWS needs a little buff, just for damage. Four differences between CAWS and Combat Shotgun are: Magazine size, burst rounds, craft recipes and blueprint requirement. Obviously people will still go for Combat Shotguns, as they are much, much more cheaper and it's a smaller loose to die with it.
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Pancors is top dmg, but I would like to see CAWS (its good as it is) easier craftable (regular Workbench + BP) and utilising GMP instead HQA to create option (players can buy already GMP from NPC, since its highly tradable item).
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Pancors is top dmg, but I would like to see CAWS (its good as it is) easier craftable (regular Workbench + BP) and utilising GMP instead HQA to create option (players can buy already GMP from NPC, since its highly tradable item).
There are like what? 5 shotguns in game?
Based on quality.
Shotgun -> Sawed Off -> Combat -> CAWS -> PANCOR
CAWS and Combat are too fucking similar. CAWS has more ammo capacity and requires +1 strength. But does like +2 damage more.
I don't take care of balance, but I'd say let's lower the range of the CAWS, and increase it's damage output. Making it the ideal short range shotgun for PvP.
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CAWS shoots more bullets in burst.
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CAWS shoots more bullets in burst.
then CAWS is better lol if you have BRD
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More bullets... One more bullet. Just one more shell and 3 more in magazine, making it still a 3-burst gun.
I've checked everything we have to know [at least I think so, lel], here's what we got about CS and CAWS:
Damage: 20-28 vs. 20-28. DRAW
Range: 25 vs. 25. DRAW
Burst Rounds: 4 vs. 5. CAWS WINS
Magazine Size: 12 vs. 15. CAWS WINS
Max. Bursts: 3 vs. 3. DRAW
Strength Requirement: 5 vs. 6. CS WINS
Weight: ~10lbs vs. ~5lbs. CAWS WINS
Base price: 2555 caps vs. 4070 caps. CAWS WINS
Profession requirement: SG Gunsmith 1 vs. SG Gunsmith 2. CS WINS
Recipe: 1x wood, 6x metal parts, 1x alloys vs. 1x wood, 2x HQ alloys, 2x alloys, 3x metal parts, 3x junk. CS WINS
Crafting place: min. workbench vs. advanced workbench. CS WINS
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TOTAL: Combat Shotgun = 7 | H&K CAWS = 7. RAW DRAW
The answer is simple: CAWS if you need a sidearm for f.e cave looting or mob-farming [weight wins], Combat Shotgun if you want to earn money/need a good gun quickly [crafting wins]. It's true that Pancor Jackhammer is above anyway, but it's the best shotgun for now, and we're talking about the problematic tier.
Raise CAWS' damage a little and all should be fine and simple.
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more bullets in burst = higher chance for knockback
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Damage: 20-28 vs. 20-28. DRAW
Range: 25 vs. 25. DRAW
Burst Rounds: 4 vs. 5. CAWS WINS
Magazine Size: 12 vs. 15. CAWS WINS
Max. Bursts: 3 vs. 3. DRAW
Strength Requirement: 5 vs. 6. CS WINS
those above are combat stats (caws obviously winning here)
Weight: ~10lbs vs. ~5lbs. CAWS WINS
Base price: 2555 caps vs. 4070 caps. CAWS WINS
Profession requirement: SG Gunsmith 1 vs. SG Gunsmith 2. CS WINS
Recipe: 1x wood, 6x metal parts, 1x alloys vs. 1x wood, 2x HQ alloys, 2x alloys, 3x metal parts, 3x junk. CS WINS
Crafting place: min. workbench vs. advanced workbench. CS WINS
those are noncombat stats
ofc that CS is easier to obtain as its lower tier weapon
4 -> 5 bullet is like +25% dmg and also higher chance for knockback, that is alot
you cant compare those two, its like comparing 10mm pistol to .223 pistol..
10mm is easier to craft but .223 is better in combat, now are they equal ? they arent
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Caws is just as hard to craft as the Pancor though. Nearly same resources. Caws does need a buff IMO.
Maybe make it Pancors twin, just one different feature making it each gun have an advantage over a different situation. For example, maybe give H&K Caws more range and less damage, Pancor less range more damage.
Or an idea of my own, Make caws have a 24 clip and burst with 12 bullets. Nerf the damage to 16-22, lower knock back chance and make it incompatible with Gecko breath. This would make it fun to 1-hex with a shotty.
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Caws is just as hard to craft as the Pancor though. Nearly same resources. Caws does need a buff IMO.
Maybe make it Pancors twin, just one different feature making it each gun have an advantage over a different situation. For example, maybe give H&K Caws more range and less damage, Pancor less range more damage.
Or an idea of my own, Make caws have a 24 clip and burst with 12 bullets. Nerf the damage to 16-22, lower knock back chance and make it incompatible with Gecko breath. This would make it fun to 1-hex with a shotty.
this is awesome idea
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This should be in suggestions
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my posts are apearing i need help!!!!